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mircea_popescu: tournament markets, what happens
to capitalism once
the sons of unbeaten mothers in monogamous arrangements grow up.
BingoBoingo: Inca has
to keep
telling all
the children
they are special well into
their 70's
BingoBoingo: Sure, incredibly common. I suspect
the whole reason "crowdfunding" gets pumped is
to encourage
that sort of idiocy
a111: Logged on 2018-07-05 17:02 mircea_popescu: are you aware
the
third
that does and
the
two
thirds
that don't contain
the EXACT SDAME PERCENT of seld-diagnosed smarts, intelligence etcetera ?
mircea_popescu: no, i mean sponsorship. remember when i sponsored
the what was it, 8chan maybe ?
BingoBoingo: But yes, selling webhosting
to culture warriors seems riper
than selling web hosting
to people on web hosting forums
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo btw, here's an idea : suppose someone from pizarro were
to contact ~all
the "sexuality cultural war" websites out
there, "feminists" "mra" whatever, and proposed pizarro sponsorship ? << I'd actually been warming up some old accounts on
these forums
to do exactly
this sort of
thing.
mircea_popescu: most people are
too shy
to
talk
to girls ; be
the girl
that
talks
to
them.
mircea_popescu: "if stuck in africa, stick
to fucking virgins" or how did it go.
mircea_popescu: way
the fuck better
than
trying
to "buy ads" on sites
that
try
to sell
them.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo btw, here's an idea : suppose someone from pizarro were
to contact ~all
the "sexuality cultural war" websites out
there, "feminists" "mra" whatever, and proposed pizarro sponsorship ?
phf: well, yes, you have all
the
tarbas/ebuilds have a blake in manifest, but
there's no equivalent for a git repo.
those are just pulled
trinque: no. not yet, he's getting a
tarball signed
phf: gentoo out of
the box
turned out
to have all kinds of interesting surprises (i haven't ran gentoo in years, so it was interesting
to see
the holes
through which
the darkness comes). like
the foo-9999999.ebuilds
that just pull from
the mystery github repos without any kind of checksumming
☟︎ trinque is rerunning
the current bootstrapper and will hand same
to asciilifeform if/when completes successfully
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I get it: clone of dulap is pointless because it requires rotor-style which can be equally done on existing server; but we are
talking of having a box with
trinque's musltronic proto-cuntoo
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and if it is, it is, and forget about all
this nonsense
that's already sunk an hour of
time pointlessly.
mircea_popescu: look,
the bootloader
thing is either musl or isn't. if it isn't, i expect
trinque wants
to hear about it ; whether he wants
to or not i still want it said.
diana_coman: asciilifeform,
trinque's script is basically proto-cuntoo as far as I understand it; and it will result in a mulstronic system so why are we
talking of a glibc box?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 12:34 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827977 << 're-emerge' seems
to imply systemwide ? you're more or less guaranteed a borked box, muslism has
to be done either rotor-style (i.e. 100% user-local build of 1 proggy at a
time) or systemwide (
trinque's cuntoo ), on account of
the impossibility of cleanly linking glibc libs
to musl proggy or vice versa
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:43 diana_coman: so
then it would seem
this is
the best available option currently: asciilifeform can I have
trinque's cuntoo on
that machine when it's available?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-05 17:38
trinque: nor using ave1's gcc
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: aha. asciilifeform did
this machine ever get engentooated?
mircea_popescu: the "a full gnat musl
thing" portion seems
to be satisfied by
trinque 's currently published bootloader.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-06-22 23:12 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: KVM is plugged in. Raid card, disk, and
two FUCKGOATS installed
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-06-20 16:30 mircea_popescu: which brings us
to : ben_vulpes would pizarro be amenable
to bring up
the spare sometime so she makes it a full gnat musl
thing,
test whether we can move everything
there, and either move it (so basically, moving servers) or else backing down (so basically i guess either renting both for a while or powerting back down
the spare) ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:43 diana_coman: so
then it would seem
this is
the best available option currently: asciilifeform can I have
trinque's cuntoo on
that machine when it's available?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-06-21 19:03 ben_vulpes: end of july for
the whole package
mircea_popescu: i dunno why ; cuz i said
the idea is
to ~test a musl process~ ; without hosing
the machine currently running it.
ben_vulpes: i was under
the impression
that you wanted
to wait for a machine
that you could cut eulora server over
to in
toto
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-07-05 17:02 mircea_popescu: 2. customer gives ~2 week early warning, and
then
the mark comes and goes, and customer doesn't have what he wanted.
mircea_popescu: trinque ok so
then why wouldn't i use it ? would you rather not have it
tested or i don't get it ? idea here was
to put
the item into work see what comes out.
trinque: mircea_popescu: you get a fully musltronic gentoo out of
the bootstrapper which will be useful for exactly
that purpose
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you mean other
than because it dun require pizarro provision a box ?
diana_coman: from
the other side: why would rotor-style be a better option
than using
trinque's script above?
mircea_popescu: so if i use it,
the resulting system will in fact permit my
testing of a whole set of musl-compiled deps, system wide, such as mysql and whatever other libs eulora pulls.
mircea_popescu: trinque ok, help me understand
this. so you have a script
that a) works, in
the sense of bootloading a b) gentoo which is musl-compiled but c) doesn't have a proper v
tree.
trinque: I am not persuading
the bootstrap script be used
mircea_popescu: because if i do and something breaks, i have no way
to extract value out of
the foregoing effort. what will i do,
trilema article about "here should be some words nobody knows how
they'd go" ?
trinque: I was saying
the script (which is now a bootstrapper) can be used
to produce a usable system (which is not cuntoo, but gentoo), and I
think it's reasonable not
to want
to use
that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh, he doesn't want
to have
to support
that and i don't want
to use unsupported release.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 14:35
trinque: diana_coman: I have updated
the script you last
tried, such
that it again works. What I have not completed is
the v-tree which is
to replace imperial portage.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: Sent 15 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plz lemme know if you have
the
tracking info
a111: Logged on 2018-07-05 17:19 asciilifeform: !Q later
tell BingoBoingo plz lemme know if you have
the
tracking info
diana_coman: asciilifeform, we are atm
trying
to not waste effort, not really adding *more* effort into it
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> afaik
that passes. diana_coman did it ? <- yes for eulora-server code itself
diana_coman: myeah, but what is
there
to gain from
that instead of simply building it on cuntoo directly?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, uhm, but how about
the deps?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman has been
tickling it for
the past 2-6 weeks.
mircea_popescu: we'll have yet another flip flop later when we move
to
the musl.
mircea_popescu: so
then
the correct decision here is
to clone
the gentoo.