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mircea_popescu: idiots have no room in this world, which is why i hear their father got some real estate waiting for them somewhere else.
mircea_popescu: drunks' choices are theirs to make, what am i, borderline ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: every time some dude goes 'i could try and spend 20yr and maybe come up with a sane basis for crypto --- or there's that bottle of whisky. and it looks moar like a deal' hitler wins.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude gtfo. "hitler maintains". tell you what, if i fill a room with depressive thirty-yo-crisis chicks it's gonna be that "the room" has "an atmosphere". then if i kick them out and in the same atmosphere introduce happy-go-lucky nineteen year olds, suddenly the same room "has an atmosphere" of juvenile enthusiasm.
PeterL: Guy in prison uses a spoon to dig tunnel out, pops up in a playground, jumps up and down shouting "I'm free, I'm free." A little girl walks up to him and says "So what? I'm four!"
mircea_popescu: same reason al schwartz doesn't make his way here ; and same exact reason i dunno, lew rockwell can't pass my idiot filter.
mircea_popescu: or to quote voltaire, "i'm too old to make new friends."
mircea_popescu: anyway. i don't buy into this "people good but evil govenrment corrupts". as near as i can see, "people suck and government does the best it can, as their product."
mircea_popescu: i doubt this.
mircea_popescu: "we control the vertical and the" "how come i can't have a fucking gallon of gas ?" "oh sorry about that... nothing we can do."
asciilifeform: the way i understand it, there is a population of folks susceptible to sanity. who, were they to show up here, by same happenstance, e.g., asciilifeform , did, would stand constructively on tmsr side.
mircea_popescu: verty until I saw an opportunity to be a member of the great Illuminati brotherhood and I took my chances and I have been a member for close to three years now and the higher you get the richer you become." whereas gavin started life pretending to be in charge of bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: the only difference being that khaleed started life pretending to, and here i quote, "I am one of the agents sent by the high priest to bring as many of those who are interested in becoming a member of the Illuminati to the great Illuminati temple,am a traditional herbalist healer and no problem without a solution to me but I was ones like you I could not evening feed my family what kind of life was that to live I lived in po
mircea_popescu: i see not this difference.
mircea_popescu: ironically, both eth and whatever-that-was got raped. i'm all ears, you picked like the worst examples conceivable.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have 0 interest in garden-variety 'businessman of luxor', only in hitler's annointed poodles.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure there is a cure. "oh foreign languages are hard." "well of fucking course they're are, you frittered away your 3-5yo interval of brain plasticity on learning adspeak."
Framedragger: *sigh*. "that's boring". no, you're right, i agree.
Framedragger: it's not really reliable. but i may just be doing that slippery slope insane adversary thing myself here. :/
trinque: Framedragger: freenode rate limits messages; how am I going to ddos a bot
Framedragger: well i'm just returning the snark eh :p
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/from:798/to:798#798 << yeah i have! it's really neat. have you? :) the larger part of the code is in trinque's *ircbot*, btw. logbot plugs in very nicely. but fact of the matter is, http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/irc_logging.txt would be orthogonal, i.e. the two can be devleoped independently, to a degree
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 18:49 mircea_popescu: pretty ridoinculous seeing how half the time i fuck girl with knees together.
trinque: but on the subj, I didn't put together a bot and the wot mechanics to like, run in there and make my name!
phf: i think it's an elaborate spoof of mp/ascii dialogues
trinque: I. what?
ben_vulpes: of course he might! so i ask.
asciilifeform: 'Data coming from true random number generators is never 100% random. I am aware of no exceptions. Whitening is required in all cases before the data is suitable for use in cryptography.' << from first link ☟︎
asciilifeform: the #1 entry is gut-bustingly lulzy to asciilifeform , because i spend ~half year auditing a multilinear-map thing for $rupturefarm, and even was sent to a 'conference' where 'serious cryptographers' did not even blink when someone walked in with a proof that whole thing was crock of shit ☟︎☟︎
trinque: raises anti-awareness I suppose
trinque: I don't know what they think this does.
mircea_popescu: i found the preface more interesting than the tome, myself.
trinque: shit I'm old; was.
mircea_popescu: yeah i read it back in school at some point
PeterL: speaking of books, mircea_popescu have you read "The Prince" by Machiavelli? I have been reading it and for some reason it made me think of you (though I expect you would read it in the original Italian?) ☟︎
asciilifeform: (though for some reason i can't seem to turn up the log)
asciilifeform: a while ago i briefly considered showing up at the 'pgp conference' but decided against. there is a difference between entomologist and those fellas who fuck wasp hives
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not regard the now-explicit cooperation of koch with boeck as uninteresting.
asciilifeform: incidentally i have nfi whether that dot is camera or just ir probe.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/Uow3O << mega-lol: 'These air pod headphone things aren't visible enough to signal to men that I don't want them to talk to me'
malcomxxx: How i can made btc ? can some one help me out ?
asciilifeform: 'By this time the smell of any other food gave me hunger pangs; I walked past a pizza place and nearly cried.'
asciilifeform: in other olds, 'However, after two days of eating MealSquares, I was desperate for anything else. I wolfed down my tupperware of weird gruel almost immediately upon getting to the office on Wednesday morning. It was the opposite of the problem I'd had with the MealSquares, which took me so long to get down that I wasn't physically able to consume enough calories in one day to properly function.'
asciilifeform: http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/256205-thumb/AirPods-header.jpg << is it just me or do these look like... smokes ? ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu pictures someone who actually feels shame over not having read the references here. imagine! you got "i used to fuck lions in kindergarten" alf ; native russian poet afficionado and whatever else phf is, then there's the cinematic tradition, and the...
asciilifeform: i have the tome here.
Framedragger: ah damn i must have heard of him in a lithuanian context but i probably know nothing of him, even though evidently i should. /shame
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/from:656/to:656#656 << out of curiosity, what book would that be? (not the fictional one within eco's name of the rose i assume??)
asciilifeform: at some point i'ma scan the thing.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i'd be unsurprised if there's a market in africa for lion prostitution.
mircea_popescu: "but mp, if you don't want ground ammo just don't keep crates of ammo in your kitchen" "o ya ? how about i don't keep a grinder."
Framedragger: (ah, no, i take it back: mostly boring.)
asciilifeform: actually i'm not surprised, i saw with own eyes.
asciilifeform: i'd simply colour brazil brown on the big map in the map room and move on...
mircea_popescu: and yes, i spot check the work of even the most senior girl.
mircea_popescu: aand in other lelz, "I can't imagine any foreigner writing down 3 lines of non error text for my life of it. Greeks are not easy to be mastered and he is using them without a mistake. what is considered to be an exception even in between Greeks."
Framedragger: i prolly agree asciilifeform
asciilifeform: what i meant was that i see 0 reason why any 1 of the multiple items ought to be of this form.
asciilifeform: i like mircea_popescu's idea - of wholly-uncoupled redundant logtrons - moar.
Framedragger: i think my tolerance levels are (finally) decreasing in some kind of accelerated fashion, hopefully in line with growing experience, but there's still ways to go. but yeah, war it is
asciilifeform: Framedragger: i went to war against the 'culture' long ago.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: "Everything pertaining to Automake was nuked" - so nice. i used to doubt (or maybe i still do - in itself a healthy habit, perhaps) whether i didn't *get* something fundamental in modern s/w development. (maybe i still don't, of course). "shitloads of build targets and convoluted build chain? maybe there's no way more elegant? i must be a truly stupid person."
mircea_popescu: here's a stray thought : if i can't implement EC in a page on your cryptolib IT IS NOT A LIB!
Framedragger: yeah that i really like. reminds of that bitcoin wallet spec - no non-ascii parts
mircea_popescu: so ever since i wrote that thing about argentine retards wearing hoodies, i have this ongoing debate with... some people. it mostly consists of stuff like, http://66.media.tumblr.com/47e87402c079d8364a48c9322417f012/tumblr_nh1hzo81x31tq5tbno1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: well, bash/quotebot rather than imdb quote db i think.
mircea_popescu: i have a flag about it but it doesn't link to anything apparently so i dunno what i was thinking.
mircea_popescu: i do recall.
Framedragger: but in all seriousness, i'm a bit afraid, but it may be good education for me. not that i see this as a game to be fucked up at the first step
Framedragger: i heard there was, like, a way to, like, store results from a dynamic system, to be served in a static manner
asciilifeform: i posted a bash 3liner a while ago
mircea_popescu: btw Framedragger, you realise that once i link you, the bots will notice, and you'll eventually get the phf treatment, a month or w/e later ?
Framedragger: that, i can imagine
asciilifeform: theoretically i could pay to have it not happen, but for the same cost could get 2-3 more subscriptions to various isp...
Framedragger: nasa's coding manual (which doesn't allow recursive code - because the rovers are, you know, sorta far away, and you write in a turing complete language) may have it - i wonder
mircea_popescu: how do i check if kth of n elements was or was not initialized ? read a list n-1 long ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i'm not the end all be all in project management for computer software. however, it seems to me "differently arranged lines" is a fucking weird problem to have. really, you can arbitrarily sort programs ? in what language, html ?
shinohai: Nothing, mircea_popescu decided to light fire under shinohai 's ass with bickening article I suppose
thestringpuller: i'm jk'ing
mircea_popescu: i didn't ban it ?
mircea_popescu: i multitask too, what. nothign wrong with it.
jhvh1: shinohai: shinohai was last seen in #trilema 24 minutes and 43 seconds ago: <shinohai> I thought the purpose of V was to excise git-think from the mind.
Framedragger: i understand that i'd be more internally..consistent if i just ditched the *whole* thing, however.
Framedragger: well fwiw i'm not overusing it. i don't subscribe to the "resolve cosmetic conflicts by doing more redundant work" thing, either;and i don't do it
mircea_popescu is slowly turning into an ancient dragon of the "i hate your kind ; i just don't hate you personally. yet." persuasion.
Framedragger: you may be just right; fwiw i have the same inkling feeling, hm
mircea_popescu: i don't mean laddel, i mean the other one.
mircea_popescu: i am willing to bet you that in any case as we imagine ehre, where two competent coders rushed like teenage athletes to stripper cunt and each implemented slighly variant solutions to the same problem,
mircea_popescu: the way i see it is, kids today are like, overexcited.
Framedragger: i don't see why this necessarily yields some kind of conceptual moral failure or whatever
mircea_popescu: no, in the sense "that's all nice and good, but here's what i still want to do and it's not covered"
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you mean in the sense of a logical "third"? i'm not sure. i guess i get it conceptually, re. conflicts; but on a more mundane practical level, conflicts happen because, say, two people implemented some particular thing a bit differently; or their feature touched upon code from another place which was also being worked at; whatever
mircea_popescu: because wener kock's incredibly cheeky "i fucked it all up ha-ha!" is not coming out of the martian spaceship. it's coming out of - hey, we already "solve" conflicts hurr.)
Framedragger: right. i *think* i get it. i mean, fair enough. and i should try to publish with it huh.
Framedragger: shit, i just got what you're trying to say - i'm slow. it's only a publishing mechanism. how to collaborate internally is another matter. yes, nice separation of concerns. (though i suspect people have thought how to do proper collaboration in V as well - emails with vdiffs etc)
Framedragger: (i understand it's not supposed to make any wanna-be-git development easy)
mircea_popescu: "i like it" is a great argument.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: there is an implied assumption here of a "large enough" codebase (deliberately vague quantifier here). why i'm using it for scriba: 'cause i like it; and the latter's not a great argument. *but* if you have a large enough project with multiple people working on it, then:
shinohai: I thought the purpose of V was to excise git-think from the mind.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger tell you what, if i'm on any page like that and i right click an url it gives me a fucked up thing that dun work rather than a link to the thing i right clicked on. so i'm stuck processing them further.