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asciilifeform: pray tell adlai , why should this be a thing to consider

adlai is quite pissed that the man/child actually changed nicks to "prove a point"

asciilifeform: should this be a thing

adlai: AIUI (and that's capitalized for a reason -- he may disagree with me, as might any other educated reader of his papers and drafts) , there could be a system wherein clients publish blocks at some frequency, wherein some of the blocks are not valid "bitcoin-according-to-satoshi" blocks, but you still get a sense of how likely is the apparance of the next "bitcoin-as-in-satoshi" block

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: text client a la '80s mud ?

adlai: hours, if you care about a binary value

adlai: currently, the confirmation value has a resolution of ~minuties

adlai: well... i'm not certain that bsmblahblah can produce an algorithm which will be softforked by existing btcminers, and never revoked (ie, miners fired) by existing holders; but he's trying to give a more-quantifiable "confirmation" value

mircea_popescu: as well as making a text-only client to obviate the obnoxious gfx thing

adlai suddenly corrects himself -- pete_dushenski was not part of the highlight. whether he was a member of the can-encrypt set, is a matter too deep to reversee in /me's current state ☟︎

adlai: there's a worldova difference between L1 and L2

adlai: because i'm a better troll than publicistL

adlai: well, the bsmprimeprimeprimeprimeprime guy has been publishing reasonably intelligent material for a while

adlai should maybe write regexbot before spamatron! definitely a lower branch.

adlai: the eagles saved sam and frodo (in that order -- who even even gave a shit about the ringbearer?)

adlai: ... that's a long-to-archive /stream!

asciilifeform: also does the thing really ~need~ gnu, or would mesa on a fast cpu suffice

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1551840 << here's a thought - mircea_popescu , didja ever consider having the game come on ~bootable dvd~ ?! 1980s this-floppy-is-game-and-its-os style. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: for a moment there i thought kerry was diagnosed with cancer and is leaving his diamonds to orphans or somesuch

trinque: going over it again, it appears to reduce to gossiping vpatches and seals of a format which can reference vpatch hashes.

trinque: er, not www-locally, a web. :P

trinque: the browser and "cache" is replaced by a proper database which stacks these items and creates a www locally. whether items were retained would be a matter of implementation (perhaps some measure of proximity to one's own wot, or the operator having given the item his V-tronic seal)

trinque: it's a second place for namespacing aside the URL, which ~is simply wwwcruft

mircea_popescu: i have plenty spare ; i guess in my head it's a thing in the vein of the megawatt standard.

ben_vulpes: ain't a password.

ben_vulpes: and in other recent lolz, a block just came through with 2 transactions in it including the coinbase

a111: Logged on 2016-10-03 23:15 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1552088 << which will result in a swift going under of bitpay.

trinque: isn't in mine; gimme a bit and I'll ping you, pete_dushenski.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1552088 << which will result in a swift going under of bitpay. ☝︎☟︎

pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: diggin it. not even a huge wu-tang fan either.

ben_vulpes: if you're in a hurry, jump to 17:45

pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: lol you're joking rite. no city ? anywhere ? try THE ENTIRETY of airstrip one. the whole thing. it's one big trap of 'time from a to b should be =<x or else ticket mailed to house'

ben_vulpes: "fuck i look like? i'm lookin for a bitch that can fuck right, cook right. and if not, then left foot, right, get to steppin, yeah bitch walk like."

pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes lol she even ~sounds~ like a (much) lil(er) girl

ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: in other "peak hip hop": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOzt_uPV-xA feat a young nikki and wayne sampling his own damn self

asciilifeform: several years ago, a massive toll road opened where i live. if you go on it from one end to the other, you go through a dozen or so rfid arches.

asciilifeform: there is an imho interesting dynamic in speedtraps though, where the enforcement is never permitted to become ideal, or folks will simply drive very slowly and commerce grinds to a halt

pete_dushenski: 'camera-on-pole' is a differnt beast, ofc.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the linked item appears to feature a normal radar thing

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes however must not take my word for this, ought to set up a tube and camera etc.

asciilifeform: (i will point out, it is not necessary for camera 'a' and 'b' to be sprouting from the same cabinet, though afaik they usually do)

ben_vulpes: it's be a pretty pricey project, i don't really expect anyone to fund it.

asciilifeform: if you appear on camera b too soon after appearing in camera a, you get ticket. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2016-10-03 22:33 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: my early research indicates that premium radar detectors a la valentine1 detect 'camera-on-wheels' on k and ka bands

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1552100 << sorry pete_dushenski , this is a physics-nope. ☝︎

ben_vulpes: been thinking about 'em for a while now.

ben_vulpes: lmk if you want to commission a laser jammer pete_dushenski

pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: my early research indicates that premium radar detectors a la valentine1 detect 'camera-on-wheels' on k and ka bands ☟︎

pete_dushenski is quite enjoying "jay"'s 4.6l all-aluminum v8 atm now that he's commuting more. a radar detector is now near the top of the shopping list (yes, they're legal here)

ben_vulpes: "how come every joint on point like a harpoon"

a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element

asciilifeform: 'We define algorithmic proxy custody as the automatic custody of cryptocurrency by a set of parties, where the release of cryptocurrency in custody is at least partially controlled by approval signals generated by programs run by these parties, and where programs base their approvals on the observation of a consensus for the release in another secondary blockchain, and the secondary blockchain has authoritative responsibility to comm

diana_coman: will have a look gabriel_laddel

asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: if you make a new pgp key, i will rate you

ben_vulpes: on a different topic am i crazy or are bitcoin /pubkeys/ serialized in the blockchain big-endianly and /ripmd160 pubkey hashes/ serialized little-endianly?

adlai: by which count ( http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-19#1327189 )... i'm not a person! ☝︎

adlai has yet to find a chemical which truly makes him more productive, long term. so far they've all been 'addiction'

adlai: interestingl, hebrew has a single word for "does not kill you"

a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 06:15 trinque: ordeal is therapeutic; psychdelics maybe if they cause a beneficial ordeal

adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1551909 << in this case, i'm gonna "blame the mice", or in other words -- and i can't find the exact 'logs' here, but it's iirc Leary -- "you can meditate for ten years and achieve nothing, but take a decimated milligram of lysergic acid dimethylamide, and something interesting is guaranteed to happen" ☝︎

adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1551821 << after reading preceding thread (and i must say: machine code logs > all other logs), i now wonder if i'm not a lisp programmer, nor a cl programmer, nor even an sbcl or ccl programmer, but a "ql:quickload programmer" ☝︎

mircea_popescu: at which point making a proiper driver for the bn unit singleitem will make sense

mircea_popescu: and again - not from a good life.

mircea_popescu: so it's kind-of a moot point anyway.

mircea_popescu: i expect as we clean that up i'll be in a better position to make sense.

mircea_popescu: anyway ; a large portion of these problems (there's also a threading fuckup or two, and other things) have to do with the miserable quality of the legacy codebase (like http://trilema.com/2016/minigame-smg-september-2016-statement/#selection-931.0-931.47 miserable).

mircea_popescu: actually i'm currently chasing a major performance degrading bug which seems to be related to directx version > 8.

adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1551646 << actually my first association was "type softly and swing a big stick" ☝︎

mircea_popescu: and my 2004 vintage card is not even the oldest ; not by a long shot.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except anyone who walks into a shop to buy a lappy walks out with ipad anyway.

asciilifeform: actually ~everybody who walks into a shop and buys a lappy gets a newest minus a year or two video card.

mircea_popescu: jurov hey, this isn't from a good life.

asciilifeform: jurov: i wouldn't put it past him to sell a 'game console' for it at some point

asciilifeform: it also has a broad spectrum of short-term half-solutions (use minimal subset of the iron's functionality; stockpile old amd; etc)

shinohai: "We propose a soft-fork that defines a new opcode (redefining a NOP opcode) as the OP_COUNT_ACKS using the segwit script versioning system"

mircea_popescu: anyway ; like colored coins except with a different dood pretending to authorship.

ben_vulpes: !~later tell pete_dushenski 'no ceilings' isn't a /bad/ mixtape, on review

mircea_popescu: so girl bought "brazilian grapes". they're indescribably aptly named. colored this luscious black, like a brazilian chick's tone ; big, and round, and tough and sweet.

mircea_popescu: a

PeterL: well, I hang around with a 10 yo girl a lot, sometimes it rubs off

PeterL: what is the difference between a zippo and a hippo? One is very heavy and the other is a little lighter!

mircea_popescu: sure darling. suppose you're a) dry enough and b) in a furnace, ok ?

mircea_popescu: think of starting a wood fire. "many trunks in the forest, including mine and friends' i saw, had zippo lighter approached to trunk - nothing happened"

mircea_popescu: we are discussing very unlikely situations here. back when i was a kid, codeine as a phosophorous salt was the child cough remedy ; i took plenty ; so did other kids. did ~nothing. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: but yes, humanity being what it is - this isn't a complete solution. given a large enough population, you'll find individuals capable to survive anything ; hiv even has innate immunity believe it or noit.

mircea_popescu: he mostly studied men. there's a marked difference between the genders.

asciilifeform: quite conceivably dope is a beneficial thing, by this light, if it helps folks who are candidates for BingoBoingo's 'scooty' photos to die (relatively) cheaply, and quickly, rather than slowly and expensively decades later

mircea_popescu: if you're willing to die tomorrow you can have five pounds of your choice of dusts, seeing how yo ugo rob a bank.

mircea_popescu: specifically, that male self-hate tends to reject the world (which is what "i hit rock bottom" always is - it is insanity to imagine the addict understands the world in your terms, and "Has seen reason" ; no such thing, he just activated a peculiar, and reasonably well understood, psychological process. no rationality involved) whereas in females tends to reject the self.

mircea_popescu: womne almost never hit rock bottom. this is almost entirely a male phenomenon.

asciilifeform: konsensoos reality is one hell of a drug.

mircea_popescu: bout a dollar.

asciilifeform: gawker - a-ok; qntra - verboten.

trinque: even when using generator exprs could at least hit enter once in a while :p

asciilifeform: ( what ELSE do you really need, on top of kernel+shell+gcc, to count as 'a linux' ? 'xpenguins' ?! )

asciilifeform: (if you add a kernel and busybox to mod6's config, you get a linux.)

asciilifeform: ons subsystem he designed beams back "hello world" after an almost-aborted launch, a navigation jet which misfired, and the solar panels sustained some damage by space debris. normally, it's unnecessary to have confirmations of basic operations, but it makes perfect sense under C.'

asciilifeform: 'it's appropriate to make a machine print "hello world" to verify that everything works after all the mind-boggling nonsense has interfered with the real purpose of a computer, and you never know which part of booting up will fail due to a minor bug. the delight in a C programmer's eyes when his machine thus booted typed "hello world" back at him would probably parallel that of a Common Lisp programmer when the satellite communicati

asciilifeform: there does not exist such a thing as 'a c program', even the schoolbook 'hello world' relies on a megatonne of os crapola simply to load and produce human-readable out.

asciilifeform: nobody is a c programmer.