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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'd have to restart the process to get data out of valgrind, right?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes et al: what happened to actually instrumenting with valgrind etc, as i described in agonizing detail on the ml last year ? the linux footprint thing is not very useful.
ben_vulpes: how do i look inside that?
peterl: maybe someday I write script to dig through logs and archive shit
mircea_popescu: and in other "i'm just dumping links for bots to archive" news, http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-09-16.log.html#t17:44:03
mircea_popescu: i dunno man... at ~1k usd / cc... a toilet's pretty bulky.
asciilifeform: http://www.mignews.info/dlazhnik-razrushi-ipotekiranata-si-kashta-i-ya-stovari-pred-bankata << moar lelz. fella owed mortgage on house, but not land. foreclosed, so returned house to bank. without land. using excavator.
shinohai: i have been so focused on getting controls to behave lol
shinohai: yeah mircea_popescu when i get client fired up we'll chat
shinohai: i go *all the way back* and thankfully loot is still floating in the air
shinohai: yeah because i forgot the proper way the first time :/
shinohai: as I said, the game plays you
mircea_popescu: shinohai you know once you get half decent at the metagame you don't have to baby it. i spend about 10-20 minutes a day changing bot diapers is all.
mod6: lol, except i hate python
shinohai: so when i get time to watch
mod6: hahah, i wont spoil the choice quotes for anyone.
shinohai: I haven't watched it yet :/
mod6: I watched it lastnight, was lmao.
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's supposed to be "funny" ; the only problem being that cancerous fags can't possibly be funny. not no matter how hard they try ; not just because they try too hard.
mircea_popescu: shinohai i can't help but notice the fascination with this mysterios ceo figure in the usg.pinoy dept.
BingoBoingo: lol, anyways apparently southpark season 20 started this week. I am still lolling at their "member berries" wordplay
mircea_popescu: phf "for a thousand dollars i make my own hole". who cares what exists in english ? MAKE it. Pizdanutsya = cuntilized or w/e.
BingoBoingo: I am astounded at that wordplay
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-16#1542754 << i was trying to translate dao-kakao and realized that it's impossible, since there's no equivalent of мат in english language. fuck, cunt, dick, grunt ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (now, as to ~why~ in the latter case, i do not know) << Usually because people now "finish" basements in new construction placing a toilet below sewer line. Grinder is so turds can be pumped up to sewer line.
phf: i used to think hanging out in the kitchen is exclusively su thing (i know i know), but iranians do the same thing. and the pattern is exactly the same, everyone's drinking tea, and then somebody will just break out a skillet and make omelette or whatever, "of course for everyone in the room"
asciilifeform: i've nfi why, maybe lead poisoning, or shitburgers, or wriggley chewing gum.
asciilifeform: none that i can tolerate the company of for >10min or so
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 23:59 mircea_popescu: anyway ; i will propose that the large kitchen is a fundamental part in the happiness and sane social insertion of young women ; that even poor places in orcland implement it as more essential sociocultural component than, eg, men's mechanicizing garage ; that all effort should be directed at having one above all else.
asciilifeform: (now, as to ~why~ in the latter case, i do not know)
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 23:37 mircea_popescu: here we sit wondering about "garburators", which i dun have, and dun particularly want ; meanwhile he sits around with roach nests deliberately placed in the house, something the soviets cca 1966 wouldn't have allowed.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; i will propose that the large kitchen is a fundamental part in the happiness and sane social insertion of young women ; that even poor places in orcland implement it as more essential sociocultural component than, eg, men's mechanicizing garage ; that all effort should be directed at having one above all else. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i dun think cake was ever made in less than 5kg installments for eg.
ben_vulpes: i should indeed see the * produced in dirigible
ben_vulpes: nah, i moved out of portland to escape the countertop digester
mircea_popescu: here we sit wondering about "garburators", which i dun have, and dun particularly want ; meanwhile he sits around with roach nests deliberately placed in the house, something the soviets cca 1966 wouldn't have allowed. ☟︎
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-15: [22:19:19] <thestringpuller> when our hot water heater went out, we discovered the tank was 50 gallons too small for our house which is why we were always running out of hot water. I srsly doubt any contractor does satisfactory work in any "home improvement" tasks
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160915/#564 << which is why i love them. you sign contract, then you sign their faults report, w/e you call it. then they call you as if this is literally the first time this happened (because... it is) and try to pretend like they're geting paid. you explain that they are not getting dime one ; and that if they do not remedy like - right now, they are not getting sued because contractor comes with
asciilifeform: it's a 'gateway handbook'. i have one here.
mircea_popescu: good god, how do i come up with this shit.
mircea_popescu: i'm not so up to date on anglotard pretenders. was this the one with a permanent abscess secondary to inguinal hernia that consequently smelled bad and disgusted some euro princess ?
asciilifeform: eh i bet he at least emptied it.
asciilifeform: that it had 3 aa's in it? i know this.
asciilifeform: yeah in the last years there was a bit of 'i need a new flat bat' 'there's none'
asciilifeform: i dunno what kind of kids mircea_popescu knew, but i only destroyed the 4.5v things, not restored.
mircea_popescu: i am proud to say i never to this day restored a battery ; and this includes the old days of communist romania, for both car batteries and the 4.5 volt zinc-manganese three-cell assembiles
mircea_popescu: i just order more.
shinohai: i was lucky my loot was still where i dropped
ben_vulpes: ah i just realized that i forgot to include a solid three hundred word rant on the evils of nonstick in this context
shinohai: i din have no issues
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-15: [20:30:04] <ben_vulpes> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-15#1542439 << so i've done my own digging and asked a few others to dig as well, and i can't figure out what "the code" i'm supposed to have is. grepping for 'footnote' turns up zilch in my copy of mp-wp. throw me a bone here?
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160915/#515 << apparently i didn't include plugins. http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/mp-plugins.tar.gz contains footnote and recent comment, which is all trilema uses ; and all i expect you'd ever sanely want, except if you're in that dubious spot where caching makes sense, but not on a deeper level in the stack you might want a caching plugin. altogether dubious, this, for technically apt peo
asciilifeform: i still do it in thick rubber gloves, like grandfather did.
phf: and i've been in the vulpes situation, where throwing a breaker would ~dim~ the bulb
thestringpuller: when our hot water heater went out, we discovered the tank was 50 gallons too small for our house which is why we were always running out of hot water. I srsly doubt any contractor does satisfactory work in any "home improvement" tasks
asciilifeform: the one i'm posting from now, even had labels that refer to rooms which no longer exist...
asciilifeform: i dun think i've ever set foot in an american house where the breaker labels had a strong link with reality
ben_vulpes: no, there is a ground stake. i personally caught tingles off the housing though.
ben_vulpes: fun thing about this house, when i was rewiring the laundry room with sane 220 plugs, i threw the breaker for the laundry room and STILL ZAPPED MYSELF
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: probably unclear that i'm still renting.
ben_vulpes: the particularly annoying thing about this current house is that i don't see a clean way to install the garburator.
ben_vulpes: when i packed 5 people into a rotting victorian proximate to the eng/art schools
ben_vulpes: i have lived in true hovels without
diana_coman: for 1 sec I thought ben_vulpes actually *washes* the dishes ; as in using sponge+washing liquid, no dishwasher
ben_vulpes: trinque am i beta
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-15#1542439 << so i've done my own digging and asked a few others to dig as well, and i can't figure out what "the code" i'm supposed to have is. grepping for 'footnote' turns up zilch in my copy of mp-wp. throw me a bone here? ☝︎
asciilifeform: i didn't mention the cost of paint jobs and debarnacling etc. either.
asciilifeform: i see this blue every day, from the barbaric lawn machine engines etc.
ben_vulpes: ho that's an entirely different angle from what i saw
ben_vulpes: i don't know what you're looking at for those zeros
asciilifeform: so i owe him 5000, and we settle in potatoes, also without creating tx, etc.
asciilifeform: if i'm buying six antimatter bombs from thestringpuller, and nominally they cost 1000btc each but he realizes that he owed me 1000btc of iridium from asteroid, and we settle without creating btc tx, this is honest - but is not a btc transaction.
asciilifeform: they go 'i'm gonna try to make a string of bits that tells me if someone copied it' and end up in same idiot spots as copyrasts making 'copy protection' etc.
asciilifeform: the reason i even started this thread is that there is imho a 'sleep of reason breeding monsters' among folks who partake in 'physical coins' and similar.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i need to be more descriptive. devil in details and all that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when he drinks, i'd guess.
thestringpuller: I was just wondering in context of WoT, does it make sense then? or is it still braindamaged.
thestringpuller: This I understand. Accounting of that sort cannot exist outside of strong WoT. Cuz scammers.
thestringpuller: lemme rephrase "I'm interested in scheme by ALF for offline BTC exchange"
thestringpuller: but i understand. i would be interested to see asciilifeform design of "opendime-like" device
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: and you ask why I'm trudging through the latrines?
asciilifeform: i do grasp. this crud tends to go away very quickly.
asciilifeform: if i had time, i'd buy the thing and publicly rape it (differential power probe) but i haven't the time. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i quite enjoy reading about machines that are ~intrinsic~ scamatrons - i.e. the design cannot possibly be described as 'honest mistake', or even product of ordinary stupidity
asciilifeform: it is not especially hard to make physically-indistinguishable device where i know privkey in advance before giving the 'uncopyable' item to a chump.
asciilifeform: 'Can I re-seal after breaking the center? No. A permanent change is made inside the flash memory of the processor.' << which i can't remove and replace with identical-looking one, containing same procedure, exactly why...? ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( generally there are few enough active sc4mz0rz peddling hardware that i normally take the sweat to read their output, it is educational )
mircea_popescu: this'd be the exactly counterpart to the very common "mp is in heaven and i am in hell, life is so unfair" ever-so-common approach. "oh look, i thought i too had a blog ; except check out what a proper one actually does!"
mircea_popescu: phf i see somebody's been doing some things!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes footnotes in footnote i actually do by hand.
phf: i see how it is
phf: when i hear the word community ..., i release the safety on my browning
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think we did, no.
asciilifeform: (per my estimate of the transistor count, i'd say that a 100% cycle-for-cycle clone could handily sit down in a $100 fpga and leave plenty of room for, e.g., modern colour vga, etc.)
asciilifeform: i even offered to dks to make formal commercial partnership to build clone, and he gave impression that he was interested but unfree to agree
asciilifeform: at the time i was fixated on ~cloning~ the machine and was quite disappointed with the docs, there is minimal discussion of internals.
phf: i'm hoping that for my deeds dks will grant me a boon, "i asked 'er for a hair from her head. she gave me three"
asciilifeform: i have the dead tree version, it was given to me as a gift by an old and tired ex-mit fella
phf: Framedragger: entire set of symbolics documents is on the bitsavers, i can track down relevant bits for you, but it'll take a bit, since i was reading it on a lispm
phf: in related news i finally read genera's defsystem spec and not only does it ~makes sense~ it's also obvious that first takes on c-land defsystems was a pale imitation of original functionality, i.e. слышит звон но не знает где он