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a111: Logged on 2016-01-23 22:21 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1383219 <<< i wouldn't buy a thing with "SawStop (tm)" and i certainly don't want to HAVE to.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i like base 58 and the checksum. and i like the little metal flaps on wrong side of saw
phf: only issue with the regrind approach is clerical. it's easy to keep track of "this new thing that i don't have", much harder to keep all the "this old thing that i have is now new thing" updates
mircea_popescu: i suppose. not like the machine cares you know, it'll just collect the patches.
asciilifeform: last i saw, mircea_popescu doesn't host versions of his articles with old typos still in'em, anywhere
asciilifeform: it is 100% pointless to distribute a single-author proggy as 'and here is the broken ver, and here is when i fixed it, get these 100 patches'
mircea_popescu: if anyone ever hires bryan cantrill i wish to see how will they face me.
ben_vulpes: i believe that node.js and the white house are undifferentiable flaming piles of shit.
asciilifeform: i thought it were just this tomb.
ben_vulpes: hmfic also wants to install 'their friends' at managerial payrolls. wouldn't do at all to bring them in as toilet scrubbers in the 'white house communications agency'. 'but but i'm more important to just be a cog in an existing organization -- we need our own new best shiniest!'
mircea_popescu: "I work for the United States Digital Service." oh ok.
mircea_popescu: i'm going to have to go with door number no.
ben_vulpes: i see "lost", think "what, lost account number?", i see "stole" think "ahaha, what hilarious paper did gs swindle the goatfuckers into buying this time?"
mircea_popescu: lmao. i'm sure they "lost" it.
asciilifeform: trinque: 'cu' is a mega-win compared to what i had prior. ty.
trinque: nah, I've only used it a few times fiddling with routers and things.
asciilifeform: trinque: almost what i want! thx
asciilifeform: i still have roughly nfi what it was for.
mircea_popescu: offering them benefit of the doubt. Often they aren’t being malicious they just don’t understand why something should be done a certain way. Why not teach them? Put yourself in their shoes and ask, “What do I know that this person doesn’t know, which would cause me to act like them in this situation if I didn’t know it.” That’s the very definition of empathy. Public shaming elicits people’s fight/flight respo
mircea_popescu: "Here’s what I learned from my mentors: If someone makes a mistake, or does something you don’t think is right, you talk to them about it privately and give them the opportunity to correct it. This not only gets the mistake corrected, but it offers a learning moment to the person, increases their understanding, and keeps them “on board” with the overall project. As a leader you’re being empathetic to that person and
mircea_popescu: i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that the screen to insulate operator from "iron-that-might-emit-literally-anything-in-response-to-literally-anything" was ever baked. in nuclear physics or theoretical math.
asciilifeform: i have $iron-that-might-emit-literally-anything-in-response-to-literally-anything.
asciilifeform: and i - never do.
asciilifeform: i even know why it works for mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: i just did it lol.
mircea_popescu: i can totally see why this should exist.
asciilifeform: at any rate i'd like the option of losing'em
asciilifeform: why was this hard, i'd like to know.
asciilifeform: i want to 1) manually talk to a serial port for a short while 2) FULLY LET GO OF IT so various things can open() it.
asciilifeform: i use screen as a sort of 'kermit', rather than the typical use, a kind of souped-up 'nohup'.
asciilifeform: when i'm not manually diddling it.
asciilifeform: well no, because i have other proggies that need to monopolize THAT port.
asciilifeform: but i DO NOT WANT to kill -9 it.
asciilifeform: but most folks i've met use it specifically to hang on to sessions
asciilifeform: i use it daily
mircea_popescu: i actually use it a lot.
asciilifeform: the most agonizing thing in this example is that i am quite unsure if the ills are even curable. they may be intrinsic to the 'in-band problem' of a terminal talker.
asciilifeform: if somebody would like to recommend some proggy for speaking to serial ports that 1) isn't gnu screen 2) doesn't shit all over the living room precisely like gnu screen 3) doesn't have 'gui' --- i'm all ears.
asciilifeform: i'd relish seeing N implementations, in N+1 langs, like we had for 'v'.
shinohai: Per asciilifeform 's instruction to roll yer own, I am doing surgery to put it all in one script
PeterL: aha, figured it out: if I do "./scriptname" it works, ". scriptname" closes window
PeterL: hrm, now I tried it again and it worked normally
mircea_popescu: windows i'd guess
a111: Logged on 2016-09-30 19:05 PeterL: so I was playing with the lamport-parachute scripts, and if I run any of them without any arguments it should just print "usage: ...", right? Instead it is closing the terminal window I ran it in?
mircea_popescu: ima write a lolpiece after i fix this.
PeterL: so I was playing with the lamport-parachute scripts, and if I run any of them without any arguments it should just print "usage: ...", right? Instead it is closing the terminal window I ran it in? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ironically, i think the <p> <br /> style construction overwhelms some sort of secret buffer in "process html soup" render engine, resulting in the spwer seen in firefox/archive.is
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what's going on.
PeterL: http://archive.is/iJ4K7#selection-6731.0-6731.121 looked funny on archive.is, but it looks okay when I load the page directly
PeterL: scoopbot is getting a message of "blocked by cloudflare" when trying to submit links to archive.is, I am taking him offline until I figure out what is going on
mircea_popescu: i mean maybe she's turkish warbooty or w/e, sure.
asciilifeform: i've yet to see 5 do much other than barf
shinohai: Nah last night when I started build it repeatedly failed, so when I compared `env` I noticed that it was using gcc6 on new Jessie
mircea_popescu: i thought that's what made the sad thing you used before
thestringpuller: altho it's interesting given the context here >> http://trilema.com/2013/i-have-no-idea-why-rape-is-against-the-law-while-marketing-is-not/
asciilifeform: i thought it was normally a dragon.
shinohai: I actually wondered how long that would take
mircea_popescu: i don't think one can properly appreciate how broken "thought process" is in general population unless they do such. or try to teach. or try to tech support. or practice law. or so following.
shinohai: Wasn't exactly "employed" when I bought new lappy ... simply found work for Bitcoin and purchased the one I wanted.
mircea_popescu: i guess ima skim.
asciilifeform: actually that was when i closed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o did you ? i was sitting here wondering if i'm gonna or not.
wawan99: i already download the Eulora app
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I believe it was discussed in chan before, but Imma rereading it because pretty sure the booze was driving last time.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-29#1550626 << lol BingoBoingo i have this in dead tree ☝︎
mircea_popescu: lol! some guy named philippe mominykh i hope ?
mircea_popescu: i think that's kinda the plan. guy has some sort of anthropotree fetish.
phf: i like the stylesheet
shinohai: Did I miss a drinking record post while I ws down? /me searches lawgs
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Tis short. I'm trying the episodic thing
mircea_popescu: phf i dunno, doesn't register as antagonism in my head, just pure fear. which is weird, but w/e.
asciilifeform: at one time i took an interest in plan9
phf: asciilifeform: i had cat-v and 9front in some high regard, i was actually surprised there was a channel, with ~people~ in it
a111: Logged on 2016-09-29 22:07 phf: i was part of a similar channel, where snr started dropping rapidly and the founder didn't have the heart to start removing people. a handful of us who were actually doing things just ended up moving to a different, much smaller channel. i remember one of the guys who started ineptly throwing weight, kremlin, from that other channel. useless hangeron. the default banter just reminded of the other low snr place...
phf: i was part of a similar channel, where snr started dropping rapidly and the founder didn't have the heart to start removing people. a handful of us who were actually doing things just ended up moving to a different, much smaller channel. i remember one of the guys who started ineptly throwing weight, kremlin, from that other channel. useless hangeron. the default banter just reminded of the other low snr place... ☟︎
phf: i suspect at some point their antagonism was byproduct of the kind of work they did, but now, with no work or direction left, antagonism is all that's left. it was really odd, i kept expecting everyone to just shake hands though..
mircea_popescu: i kinda lost interest myself.
BingoBoingo: <trinque> in other news, goodbye to guy named for club in which he isn't. << Reminds me I should get back to work on that fanfic because cults are so unfair
mircea_popescu: i have nfi.
asciilifeform: ( helps , i suppose, the wankers to pretend to be 'continuing', i suppose )
mircea_popescu: mildly amusing. besides i'm waiting on some stuffs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: oh ffs, cat-v appears to be ~redditesque pigsty, i have nfi why to bother.
ben_vulpes: trinque: aok i geddit now
trinque: I was making fun of the guy who parted.
ben_vulpes: trinque: and /i'm/ being too broad now?
asciilifeform: 'Sep 29 17:32:52 <mircea_popescu> well no, and i can't remedy that, because no logs.
mircea_popescu: the phuctored page is quick tho, which is what i cared about
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform takes me about a minute or two even now, though i loaded it minutes ago
phf: i think precursor to that was newsqueak
ben_vulpes: i was unaware that Go had precursors!
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform you'd love these people. chat just exploded in a spontaneous demonstration of local brawn and might since i was there, much like a rus' village cca 1600 would. and the whole thing more or less consists of an ad hoc primitive argument for "fiots in head".
phf: i like the whole 9front, plan9 fork, aesthetic, http://9front.org/img/thinkaboutthefuture.front.png but with plan9 influence they obviously started drinking the go koolaid, http://ninetimes.cat-v.org, lots of go tools, but "NOTE: This page ceased updating in October, 2012". i wonder if that's when they realized that they are drinking from google's corporate spittoon
a111: 3 results for "I_did_it_for_you_all", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=I_did_it_for_you_all
phf: !#s I_did_it_for_you_all
phf: i like how cat-v hosts their own copies of frequently linked rants, so that in a conversation one can just reference harmful.cat-v.org. like here's linus on c++, http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus
asciilifeform: not only that, but that it is even CONCEIVABLE that i might have to care about some future browser wart.
catvorg_cultist: >I was specifically and deliberately uninterested in using for this tutorial any language that is not already present on every reasonable box
catvorg_cultist: I guess it can do %20 instead of whitespaces no problem.
mircea_popescu: all filenames should consist strictly of alphanum characters ; and if the os simply purged anything else, AND clobbered all files that thereby ended up with the same name into a single file, i'd applaud.