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trinque: mircea_popescu: why? because it feels like admitting suicide is the only option, but being too cowardly to pull the trigger.
trinque: +mircea_popescu | trinque well obviously. once the "to whoever according to his needs" becomes the payoff, needs become competitive. << holy fuck, does this social phenomenon fill me with bile
brendafdez: mircea_popescu expound? I could go on, but anyway... https://youtu.be/NuPolrd9yuo?t=1m35s
asciilifeform: http://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=35388 << vintage lulz
mircea_popescu: also http://40.media.tumblr.com/1b190c9f68a591ca242959d2c46ab791/tumblr_mgozwrUDxQ1rsn4c6o1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/1fa1a9d0cd350fb833875ceebe1a6d55/tumblr_muo1mwuzAo1rln4dzo1_1280.jpg
nubbins`: http://growersguidetocannabis.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSC_0063.jpg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 100% same as afghan campaign '03-present
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the kill shot would involve an 'arse-mouth system', no?
asciilifeform: for some purposes 'colouring' existing btc as funkenstein_ described would work
asciilifeform: funkenstein_ has it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fedcoin carved from bitcoin is missing key feature for them - forced transfer
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so, under this concept, if cannot prove that it is yours, it reverts to the last registered owner?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i always read it as 'plebe may not possess allocatory capital tokens' thing
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 23:54:57; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the problem is they didn't have title << does a suitcase full of benjies have 'title' ? or a tonne of gold bar? or not because fungible
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: castles and drawings by picasso are not fungible << i'd argue that picassos are more or less 'analogue bitcoin' for the ultra-bezzlerich. hence my interest in the linked turd
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the problem is they didn't have title << does a suitcase full of benjies have 'title' ? or a tonne of gold bar? or not because fungible ☟︎
decimation: mircea_popescu: an' so... master and man?
decimation: ascii_modem: yeah, the problem with the security 'pr' releases is the implication is that once they are 'fixed' everything is great!
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem im curious how BingoBoingo's update reads is all :)
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem aha
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> danielpbarron hey, mind writing a "for total noobs" guide for deedbot in the b-a wiki ? << i can do that
nubbins`: funkenstein_ +1
thestringpuller: !up ascii_modem
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Will do in a bit
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Just some Denial of service stuff. The LibreSSL fork was only affected by 5 or so of the 13 or 14 vulnerabilities
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ i fully expect it will eventually be illegal to wear leather, natural fibers, etc. everyone must plastic!
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: which idiots then go on to "really trust the... << I was always taught never to make a business decision out of emotion. Making a business decision based on "liking someone" fits this methinks.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: spot on
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: when I first joined this channel at the collapse of GLBSE you said, "Scammers just help the legitimate businesses' reputation that much more." My friend this past year went on to say, "In the new world, the most trusted person need not to be liked, because well he's trustworthy. He/She could be a complete asshole if as long as they do their job."
jurov: !up Pierre_Rochard
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 03:29:02; mircea_popescu: making money is a purely ~political~ function. if you are among the favoured elite of the respublica veneta, you then may invest in the ships, and make a profit. if not, not. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 03:29:25; mircea_popescu: if you are one of the people buying belgian rubber concessions on the stock exchanges, you make money. if you're in africa, you make quick with the hands and feet.
nubbins`: pete_dushenski are you advancing the opinion that colombian touts are nicer or friendlier than jamaican touts?
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: that's why I regret to send, now I remember!! ahahhah I knew you would say that.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: ok! :-) So, what is your political position, if you want to say about that.
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, water : http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l36by2AEsD1qz7ltxo1_1280.jpg
felipelalli: If I am not wrong, I sent an email to mircea_popescu asking his political position, or I regret to send.
trinque: mircea_popescu: haha, fuck the valley; I'd rather be here.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: why bitcoin is so undervalued?
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: it is a pitty because it was (a kind of - or has potential to be) useful.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: amazing reasoning.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: well thought out.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: no, may I know why?
felipelalli: lol mircea_popescu
gribble: Plankalkül - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plankalk%C3%BCl>; Plankalkul | computer language | Encyclopedia Britannica: <http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/725632/Plankalkul>; Konrad Zuse - ACM Digital Library: <http://dl.acm.org/ft_gateway.cfm?id=290591&type=pdf>
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: zuse's computer
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you mean the v-s?
trinque: felipelalli: shall be at deedbot.org in 5min+next_block
decimation: mpi-fg-koeln.mpg.de/pu/mpifg_book/mpifg_bd_36.pdf > " Einen Antrag zur Förderung einer elektronischen Nachfolgeversion der Z-3, den sein Mit- arbeiter Elektroingenieur Helmut Schreyer stellte, lehnte die deutsche Reichsregierung als »nicht kriegswichtig« ab (Petzold 1985: 316). " They tried to get the nazi gov to pay for the advancement of the Z-3, but it was deemed "not war-worthy"
trinque: mircea_popescu: yeah np
asciilifeform: i say 0. but mircea_popescu, i think, says p is a positive integer
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how much irrelevant drudgery is the right amount? would we have more newtoniana if he had broken rocks at butugychag for p % of his day ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-03-2015#1063202 << check it out, Pierre_Rochard gets the cookie for having asked the right question. i finally understand what felipelalli's usecase actually was. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interestingly, pretty much nobody used these for the first 20 or so years they existed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: speaking of basic techniques, rather than products
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes, we're not literally stuck with 1930s tech. for the most part. organic chemistry has not really moved very far since
felipelalli: ben_vulpes: do you know why my doc was rejected?
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 23:41:48; pete_dushenski: i really don't know any other german speakers with whom to converse
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 23:31:32; pete_dushenski: i'm generally curious about the merits of their decade and change of research
felipelalli: ben_vulpes: I hope so.
felipelalli: O_O
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ah, i was thinking of the other taxation, where goons come and lift a penny out of every 3 i make
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: taxation /i/ speak of is deedbot, nsa, phundation
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: now i recall, there was a thread where one of you asked the other for a smoke in-channel
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aha got it
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah, the thread kicked off at "<ben_vulpes> trinque's doing a major launch this week, i think we'll be lucky to get much of a peep out of him at all"
asciilifeform: i mean, ben_vulpes and trinque live a few blocks .. ?
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: no lucky with dpaste.com as well "Bad URL or network outage."
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, no not this year.
asciilifeform has not yet met ben_vulpes in the flesh
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: thank you! I'll try dpaste.com
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: re vultures < aaah
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: so update the blog entry.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes at some point a roman army was defeated, a total of three aquillae (legion header) were lost. the romans spent a century trying to get them back, at one point famously excavating a few square miles o land
asciilifeform: the 'day job' thing is more complicated than looks on the surface. a medieval serf, for instance, served for a much smaller fraction of his waking time than i or ben_vulpes do
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> three vultures lost in the east. << i do not get this reference.
decimation: ben_vulpes: no, my hypothesis is that the current us style of "just stick the money in the market and get returns" is slated for the guillotine under the new regime. < the problem isn't the passive returns, the problem is that schmoes off the street can invest
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how did octavianus meet his adoptees?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: janissary corps? why not
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes sipahi is the turkish term.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wasn't specified as 'dregs' but as children who liked to think and weren't especially missed when inducted
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you mean, as in latium, then note octavianus didn't adopt random orphans a la dick tracy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the outside world is despised << in the book, this was underscored on every page. and the degeneracy depicted also.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: collect the most desirable children from outside : teenaged women with big tits << building harem then, not mathematical monastery, i take it.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i wasn't suggesting it as a practical recipe. more of an overall reagent.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in stephenson's world, they didn't need to. collected unwanted children from outside.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally, neal stephenson (in fiction) proposed a pill against 'the moment creation is +EV, all the narcisists flood in' - monasteries
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 23:10:54; asciilifeform: since mircea_popescu is out, i will fill in for him and observe that library of alexandria burning is no loss, when cockroaches evolve and replace man they will rediscover everything.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no he won't lol.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: how long it would take for herr buffett to drain ?
felipelalli: ben_vulpes: I can't agree more.
cazalla: ben_vulpes, yeah, summed it up better than how i explained it
asciilifeform: they ALL stem from the mistaken idea that creators should be able to eat << mircea_popescu suggests they should photosynthesize ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reminiscent of anthill chick
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2015#1062976 << in this vein : http://40.media.tumblr.com/982abc36543d4b8bab3d12582b23fab6/tumblr_mw5pbmKA9N1t16d43o1_1280.jpg ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 22:02:30; pete_dushenski: buy a honda, insert own custom ferrari engine
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rms has a term of art for it, 'tivoization'
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 02:22:03; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem with jurisdictions discussed recentlier is deeper than it seems. plenty of usians do not think other places are "real places".
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes lol