asciilifeform: btw, nobody's exempt from having to eventually grasp how ^ worx

asciilifeform: mod6: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/RxYkz/?raw=true

asciilifeform: !#s comba

asciilifeform: aha, it also

asciilifeform: mod6: i was running with -g -O0 previously, lol

asciilifeform: ( alert reader will ask, what did i change ? answer : 1) comba 2) gcc -O2 (this keeps all bounds checks and dun do anything aggressive, just peepholes) )

asciilifeform: same figure sans karatsuba : 3.7s.

asciilifeform: now for another little mindfuck,

asciilifeform: but sometimes it is inconvenient.

asciilifeform: not usually.

asciilifeform: aha!11lolyes

asciilifeform: there is no 'gold standard' to which i could compare fg, etc

asciilifeform: recall the dh thread

asciilifeform: hey wouldn'tit be spiffy if we had an exact answer re prime distribution, lol

asciilifeform: which is frustrating because you can't resort to 'empirical test' here , because circular, there EXISTS NO 'gold rng'

asciilifeform: prolly hadamard's thing re prime distribution is the closest we're likely to get to an exact answer

asciilifeform: *4096b

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for completeness, exp with 4096 operands takes ~0.3s. per. on current ffa.

asciilifeform: mod6: if ~you~ type it up, it'll be ascii...

asciilifeform keeps dedicated iron around for the purpose

asciilifeform: 'mathematics of computation' vol. 61, no. 203, july 1993, pp. 177-194 ( https://www.math.dartmouth.edu//~carlp/PDF/paper88.pdf << yes it's a scan, ain't got another ) appears to give the desired bounds for miller-rabin.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this'd be an interesting adjunct to the dh tests even. ☟︎

asciilifeform: will be moar if greater millerrabin margin is used , also

asciilifeform: ( modexps per 4096 mod )

asciilifeform: ok actual answer is about 100. ☟︎

asciilifeform reruns the test

asciilifeform: aactually bug in my gpg torturetron, so :

asciilifeform: kB, mB, dunmatter.

asciilifeform: fwiw mine -- worx

asciilifeform: 'doctor, it hurts...'

asciilifeform: betcha nobody ever tested its bignumtron with longer ints..

asciilifeform: lol kochgpg ends up computing garbage if the 4096 cap is removed

asciilifeform: on mircea_popescu's www iirc

asciilifeform: i can think of other considerations, as in the thread with the exponents

asciilifeform: each theoretically 'needs multiple planets' to break via traditional methods

asciilifeform: incidentally, mircea_popescu's argument could just as readily be made re 4096 vs 2048 etc

asciilifeform: aite

asciilifeform: at any rate a p proggy starts with the register bitness

asciilifeform: not happening.

asciilifeform: i ain't putting idiot magic numbers in. anywhere.

asciilifeform: i'm writing a proggy meant to be wholly devoid of 640isenoughforeverybody-isms

asciilifeform: a 8192b key, not yet known, because gotta patch it to even allow one

asciilifeform: sooo a 4096b rsa key takes about a dozen modexp's, on avg, on gpg 1.4.10 ☟︎

asciilifeform: *to

asciilifeform goes to the torture room answer this q empirically

asciilifeform: depends whether you get lucky, lol

asciilifeform: 8192bits in particular.

asciilifeform: correct.

asciilifeform: and 0 parallelism

asciilifeform: this with 0 asm

asciilifeform: in other noose, ACHTUNG PANZERS, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-29#1676331 nao 1.99s. ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: 'weirdos who eat garlic with every dinner because we keep trying to vampirize'em'

asciilifeform: aha, i can't think of any good reason to.

asciilifeform: didjaknow.

asciilifeform: 'Find a healthy middle ground for regulators to interact with commerce without compromising some core principles inherited from Bitcoin'

asciilifeform: didjaknow.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in other lulz, https://whycardano.com

asciilifeform: at this rate i'ma end up keeping paper notebooks again.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was my first thought when the qntra thing appeared but when went to look for it, LOST IT AGAIN!11

asciilifeform: phf: http://qntra.net/2017/07/american-student-investor-lynched-in-greece/ earlier

asciilifeform: hey 1 time vanished for ~month and 'no problem'

asciilifeform: ( for at least 2d )

asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://bitbet.us >> 404

asciilifeform: imho if 9009 attempts at solution yield shitfests, problem - is ill-posed.

asciilifeform: trinque: if you're the hero who knows how to standardize $subj without birthing a microshitian shitfest - go, do.

asciilifeform: of rsa modulus size lol

asciilifeform: tertium non datur

asciilifeform: either them numberz are fixed or not

asciilifeform: 'ascii vs ut8', etc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this knot can be cut in exactly 2 ways - the 'ffa' and 'gmp', if you will

asciilifeform: i thought the solution there was... chalkboard

asciilifeform has searched, in vain, for otp rom in useful capacity for years nao

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: y'know, even a traditional vonneumann processor can work with immutable code, if roms were actually still available on the market...

asciilifeform: hence remains popular for micros where program is 1 rom

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not merely slow, but impossible, you gotta insert'em by hand

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: makes program loading a bitch

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it never caught on for large machines, i will leave the reason for this as an exercise for reader

asciilifeform: (r/w)

asciilifeform: cpu gets 2 buses, 1 for code, read-only, 1 for data

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i might have what you want ( supposing i correctly apprehend what you wanted. ) it was called 'harvard architecture', i even have a few here, it was once popular in single-chip fiddycent microcontrollers

asciilifeform: zip you or i can do about it.

asciilifeform: and it still will.

asciilifeform: phf: lenat being the patron saint of'em

asciilifeform: lol at least proper arse.

asciilifeform: sexpr 4evah

asciilifeform: i'd enjoy being proven wrong about this. but don't expect.

asciilifeform: certainly its implementation wont.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: except that the monster lang never fits in any head.

asciilifeform: 'swiss army knives' suck

asciilifeform: it adds mountain of complexity and in the end is still 'wrong tool for every job'

asciilifeform: i dun get the fixation with 'universal db language for all walks of life' ☟︎

asciilifeform: ahahaha

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depends on the item, neh

asciilifeform: what convention is lacking, that is needed

asciilifeform: colour me thick, but so far i have difficulty re what this is about

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly

asciilifeform: nah but comical when looks like chix will tip over if wind blows

asciilifeform: lol another python

asciilifeform reads..

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-09#1680939 << actually it optimizes beautifully and needs 0 bignum anythings. but i've been holding back on spoiling this olympiad for phf et al ☝︎☟︎