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BingoBoingo: Ah, the full .30 caliber spread
mircea_popescu: "republic not using nato-based warheads means we can't turn them off! SECURITY THREAT!111"
mircea_popescu eagerly awaits the time "most advanced army in world" comes back "not defeated" from whatever shithole, but instead complaining that "the barbarians don't understand how the world works", "aren't used correctly '''advanced''' weaponry" etc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: observe, even the humble bolt-action mosin, 1890s tech, usg dun like, happily goes through whatever kevlar vests, 2-3 at a time
BingoBoingo: Not that long ago at all
mircea_popescu: so lucky, the ustards, that they have a patriarch there at the ready to set the sun every time the sun sets and raise it again every time it raises again.
mircea_popescu: right, because when the us can't sell its useless shit in russia it's "russia embargo", and when us can't afford to buy russian shit it's "obama banned".
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the 'easter block loot' has all a) ran out b) banned by obummer for import
BingoBoingo: Back in the days when it was full of looted eastern block cool
BingoBoingo has fond memories of getting cashiers checks from the grocery store to order camping supplies from the "Cheaper than dirt" print catalog back when it sold cool shit
mircea_popescu: it's 20 years after that, after tmsr ended clinton's presidential hopes and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: it ain't 2000 anymore, when /b/ decided time's man of the year to be m00t.
mircea_popescu: and they gotta be "secret", specificalkly because it's rarely half a dozen attendance.
asciilifeform: even the hyped 'rights lobbying' was 100% chemically pure scamola ( nra conceded 'compromise' erry single time whatever ban was going through in washington )
mircea_popescu: as in the http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/#selection-127.158-131.25 ; you understand this, the merit washing is done in "secret" meetings so small and inconsequential the irc spammer kids could force them.
asciilifeform: it isn't clear to me that there was at any point anything there.
mircea_popescu: by now they've faked the faking to the point there's truly and overwhelmingly absolutely nothing there.
asciilifeform: entirely tru
mircea_popescu: kinda... hard, let's say, to do.
mircea_popescu: yes, but the true problem here is that restaurant is attempting to compete with online simulation of restaurant.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm speaking from the 'oh noez my restaurant is going broke' 'have you tried not taking steaming shits in EVERY plate?' pov.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 23:36 asciilifeform: and yes, being on that list apparently nominates you for EVERY pyramid scheme, herbal viagra, !!!!!!URGENT!!!!! faux-irs envelope, etc. scam in usa.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more than very little is still useless here.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 23:35 asciilifeform: who was, for some years, subscribed to all kinds of nonsensical snailmail spamola as result of once being in 'nra'
asciilifeform: i suspect nra would have moar subscribers if they refrained from http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561733 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you understand this, right, ALL of the "mainstream" in pantsuit narrative is 100% fabricated astroturf. nobody ~actually buys~, actually subscrtibes, actually anything. vice has a readership of maybe 10 people in a good day.
diana_coman: or esthlos lobbes? how did you get the footnotes working on mp-wp?
mircea_popescu: nra is working the wrong end of the funnel, it's a whole lot easier to get visa to pretend like you got 10mn donated than to get 1mn derps to send you a tenner each
diana_coman: it's not in plugins.php atm, that much is clear; maybe hanbot can help as she seems to have the footnotes working on her blog
mircea_popescu: yes, but your question was in the format "how can car manufacturer compete with print shop printig pictures of cars". well... the OTHER people DO NOT actually get anyone to donate anything.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and in this same vein, nra can't, but "black women code" can. << Well, the big NRA take is from ranges mandating an NRA membership to join and manufacterers throwing in X length of NRA memberhsip with purchase
diana_coman: I have that and it ain't working
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you call them with space double parens " (("
mircea_popescu: and in this same vein, nra can't, but "black women code" can.
mircea_popescu: how about 100% of "donations" to, say, pantsuited hilarity campaign were in fact imaginary ?
asciilifeform: ( usa finds d00d with uncrippled kalash ? 20 to life )
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 22:29 mircea_popescu: in other lulz : femen, the "ukrainian" organisation is selling shit priced in dollars via 2checkout.com, the columbus ohio us corp.
mircea_popescu: consider, at the same time you're asked to believe "most of credit card payments are fraudulent" AND "someone ever donated to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623380 ☝︎
asciilifeform: the mental gymnastics of usaschwitz inmates in pretending that they were not already effectively disarmed , are vaguely entertaining
mircea_popescu: well, the old nixon hope, "ima claim i have"
BingoBoingo: Anyways, if the NRA can't herd millions of poor derps through the visa gates to fund their flannel pantsuitism, what hope do the actual pantsuits have herding their poorer herps
mircea_popescu: who wants the visa monopoly ? and for what exactly ?
mircea_popescu: should be fun to destructure the pantsuit style "platforms" anyway.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/08/us-nra-on-the-ropes-amid-state-financial-deplatforming-attack/ << Qntra - US NRA On The Ropes Amid State Financial Deplatforming Attack
diana_coman: still rough around the edges but almost there
diana_coman: asciilifeform, thanks!
diana_coman: I am moving my blog over to pizarro so I do need to change the ip; new ip is 161.0.121.198
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:04 asciilifeform: 'As more people with less commitment to quality and much less attention to detail got involved in writing it, its educational value diminished, too. It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an in
asciilifeform: it's come to where i suspect that even bothering to look at the old coad, is a ~guaranteed waste of time, oughta go straight to knuth and blank page.
asciilifeform: recently i had a replay of this experience, went to look for fast fourier transform routine , in ada, ~same thing.
mircea_popescu: can't have everything, gotta take your picks.
mircea_popescu: hey, at least there's social media and chick's rights, right ?
asciilifeform: we're on the one with the 'fly eyes'.
asciilifeform: but we dun live there.
asciilifeform: not that i wouldn't like to live on the planet where there's a 'library of alexandria' of high-quality, well-documented coad, for the taking.
asciilifeform: ave1: recall in 2016, when i went to look for ada arithmetic lib, and found several, all of them immediately threw away, liquishit with variably-wide, heap-allocated bigints, and half MB or even heavier src
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 17:44 ave1: asciilifeform, I remember the PAL page, went looking for the sources, treasure trove of dead links. Maybe something on the iso images at the evil archive: https://archive.org/details/ADA_-_The_Public_Ada_Library_Walnut_Creek_November_1997
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-06#1839829 << a yr or 2 asciilifeform would've balked at this pov, and iirc did when mircea_popescu first wrote it, but today i strongly suspect that the value of 'vintage coad archive' is most likely ~0. quite likely that little to none of it is written to my current standard of hygiene. ( and the effort to answer this q, is closely similar to the effort to simply write new programs... ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: man much better at estimating the diff between 1st and 2nd mile than between 1000th and 1001th
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes in purely notional terms, the diff between a 10k btc tangibles line 0.01% valuable and a 10btc tangibles line 10% valuable is nil. but people have some optimal values so to speak.
mircea_popescu: a lot of what mod6 is stuck doing currently strikes me as exactly that, as the least constructive take (more constructively, it's training him in accounting and valuation fundamentals, which is not a waste at all).
asciilifeform: i was thinking from 'truck fleet' pov, where depreciation is computed as a practical approximation to q of 'when will i need to buy new ones'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think it is only worth doing systematically if it can be done in such a way as to not require phd assembly line.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes purely for meeting people's expectations ; depreciation is the principal faucet out of the tangibles bucket, so you don't end up with massive tangibles that are greatly overstated in accounting terms.
ave1: asciilifeform, I remember the PAL page, went looking for the sources, treasure trove of dead links. Maybe something on the iso images at the evil archive: https://archive.org/details/ADA_-_The_Public_Ada_Library_Walnut_Creek_November_1997 ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reading the depreciations thread, i remembered that it is physically possible to compute an 'exact' depreciation value for ssd drives, as they have 'odometer'. do you think this is worth doing systematically ?
ben_vulpes: i'm not entirely clear as to the benefits of depreciation under the tmsr accounting regime; most of my experience has to do with optimizing tax treatment in fiatlandia which is irrelephant here
a111: Logged on 2018-08-05 22:41 jurov: mod6: won't it be sufficient to do depreciation once per year, if at all?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-05#1839739 << this seems quite reasonable, sure. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://www.pegasoft.ca/pal.html >> 'The PAL is a library of Ada and VHDL software, information, and courseware that contains over 1 BILLION bytes of material (mainly in compressed form). All items in the PAL have been released to the public with unlimited distribution, and, in most cases (the exceptions are shareware), the items are freeware.' << BUT all 3 mirrors dead as dodo.
ave1: And another one (used to be called bush), http://sparforte.com
Mocky: ^ circa '96 "The goal of this binding is to make scripting language features, such as associative arrays, regular expression matching, and execution of OS commands available to an Ada programmer and to allow a Tcl programmer to use Ada in place of C where needed"
Mocky: perhaps TASH: https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=249100.249117
asciilifeform: i've been thinking about this: seems as if ~every~ proggy where author does not explicitly set objective of compactness, balloons like a midwest ameristani chix
asciilifeform: hmm holyfuq is that gsh thing huge.
asciilifeform: i think this is 1st time i hear about a shell in ada ( would be nifty to dig this up tho )
phf: asciilifeform: well there apparently used to be a unix shell in 1980s that was written in ada, i suspect it's not the gsh above, but something else entirely
asciilifeform: phf: can't say i've seen this before. but gnat does somehow run on winblowz, possibly this is how.
phf: (^ POSIX shell for windows written in Ada, presumably for adacore build toolchain)
phf: asciilifeform: i saw somewhere suggested that there used to be a unix shell written in ada with some kind of ada like semantics, you know anything about that?
asciilifeform: phf: i seem to recall that it's a wgetism.
phf: asciilifeform: oh no i'm not about to start debugging the paste/webserver/download loop again
asciilifeform: ( and yes the hashes match... )
asciilifeform: ( i was diffing it and pulling hair and then realized the culprit )
deedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/079-hermannstadt.html << The Tar Pit - Hermannstadt
asciilifeform: ... or is this the ancient evil with wget..?
asciilifeform: then i must've broken it on my end, will have to go over it with magnifying glass and find where.
asciilifeform: phf: how about the seals ?
phf: according to `mkdir t; cd t; wget --quiet http://ave1.org/code/zfp/v/patches/{zfp_1_examples,zfp_2_noc,zfp_genesis}.vpatch; for i in *.vpatch; do cmp $i ../$i || echo fail; done ` everything's fine
asciilifeform: phf: it is entirely possible that i made mistake somewhere. but worth checking.
asciilifeform: ( now , 1 possibly odd thing that i did, was to get the patches and sigs from phf's btcbase, rather than from ave1's www . perhaps these are broken somehow ? i'd like to diff'em )
a111: Logged on 2018-08-05 23:43 mod6: seems to work ok for me: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qIW0e/?raw=true
asciilifeform: ave1: evidently i made mistake somewhere ? ( mod6 was also able to press, per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-05#1839758 ) ☝︎
lobbesbot: ave1: Sent 16 hours and 3 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> http://ave1.org/code/zfp/v/patches/zfp_2_noc.vpatch is an invalid vpatch, it breaks fundamental rule of vtronics , by referencing files not given in the genesis !
ave1: asciilifeform, I just tried to press zfp_2_noc.vpatch with your python (v99, http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000160.html) and it pressed and built fine (with fresh download of the patches from my site, just to be sure).
mircea_popescu shall continue this log later, teh young sluts call.
mircea_popescu: the job of the humans involved at any juncture is to make the job of the other humans that might become involved ~possible~, which is what http://trilema.com/2017/the-practical-costs-of-hallucinated-freedom/#selection-549.0-553.0 is all about. and so on.
mircea_popescu: of fucking course it's the substance and the liant holding the human world together.
mircea_popescu: but anyway ; much as in the case of "no mechanical trust", there's no such thing as an "automated" valuation. the value of things requires thought, at all interfaces, which is to say wheresoever the thing potentially changes hands, even if just mentally. these are just minute re-applications of ye olde "no possibility of meaning outside of structure of authority". of fucking course all authority is predicated on thought, and
mircea_popescu: just because it's short doesn't mean it's not great ; the item in question happens to be, specifically because in its shortness it manages to not contradict any of the principles needed by functional accounting while including nothing not needed.