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mircea_popescu: looked more like a housemade flamethrower at first sight
asciilifeform not even a licensed mengele, but would touch
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't touch her, what am i, a licensed nurse ?
mircea_popescu: well, if they didn't maybe someone'd give a shit.
asciilifeform: it , iirc, was banned after folx discovered easy conversion to auto , and the postal was a pretext
ben_vulpes: also on an ancient thread, horses are allowed on many oregon roads and highways, because this place was barely a place before the sixties. there are a pile of questions in the drivers exam here regarding how to behave around horses, even.
vvande: well, I won't be using it a lot until I get more into it
vvande: Anyway, I'll go look at that key thing. Seems easy enough to generate, but I should have a think about it.
vvande: It's a pretty democratic place, but it being stirred up a bit in recent years.
vvande: I was just a kid but my parents were involved.
mircea_popescu: ^ get a key eh.
ben_vulpes: anyways, register a key
ben_vulpes: but i do like bc quite a bit
asciilifeform: anyway the physical location of hitler is a q above my paygrade.
mircea_popescu: this is sloppy thinker - soros was a poor nobody, there's no bloodline there ; and the lulz of the mystical-rotschilds is periodically debunked every time you bring it up.
asciilifeform: one unfortunate bit is that afaik the gambit they used to stay alive last time, will work again -- a kilometre-thick ablative coating of nobodies to catch the gas
mircea_popescu: so yes - is your own tail and the avoidance of your own fucking holocaust worth stopping and thinking a bit ?
mircea_popescu: yes, motherfucker. this is exactly it : your continued existence is offensive. either you desist, forget this "social justice" nonsense ever existed, and EVERYTHING to do with it - or else YOU will have started a war, with YOUR idiocy.
mircea_popescu: d to a war, but they were dismissed as hysterical, mad, or fools, as is always the way, and as people who worry about Putin, Brexit and Trump are dismissed now. A little thing leads to an unstoppable destruction that could have been prevented if you’d listened and thought a bit."
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the socialist retards (preaching over at huff po) : "My point is that this is a cycle. It happens again and again, but as most people only have a 50-100 year historical perspective they don’t see that it’s happening again. As the events that led to the First World War unfolded, there were a few brilliant minds who started to warn that something big was wrong, that the web of treaties across Europe could lea
mircea_popescu: yeah well, a pants shitting is a pants shitting.
asciilifeform: it takes maybe 3 seconds to verify whether a page on phuctor is fact or not.
mircea_popescu: actually i suppose hijacking phuctor is a reasonably valuable thing now, get people to shit pants that their key's haxxed.
mircea_popescu: in the land of the hanno bocks (ie, http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) it is probably as unbelievable as it gets.
asciilifeform: as if it were a mega-mystery earlier.
asciilifeform: 'Lol this is easily the best "unhappen" yet. So as the story goes, a secret key that exists and is regularily updated since 2006 suddenly — but deliberately! — gets a shared factor in 2016, as part of a didactic exercise which consists of doing euclids and other calisthenics. As a sub-plot thickener, it is for the first time announced that it takes 11*10/2 operations to obtain a 600+ digit prime factor in Berlin, which is somewha ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, apparently today in "nice story, bro" we have a "students are required as part of curricula to run 10^10 "eulers". because totally, nobody can do any math anywhere.
BingoBoingo: From the Wall Street Pisshole "After meeting with Mr. Trump, the only person to be elected president without having held a government or military position, Mr. Obama realized the Republican needs more guidance. He plans to spend more time with his successor than presidents typically do, people familiar with the matter said."
mircea_popescu: it's very stupid to link a large block like that. why are you trying to degoogle yourself ?
mircea_popescu: it's hard out there for a pimp...
asciilifeform: or make pubkey blok a link
asciilifeform: there's a verbatim asc
mircea_popescu: much like the whole "social justice" crapolade : "news for geeks, stuff that matters", "web's most important blabla", "slashdotted" and whatnot - then when push comes to shove, it ain't worth enough to buy a middle class home.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu : consider slipping in, below sigblock, a link to the key on phuctor
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> davout pretty sure he's doing "la pen" because woman see. << Aha. Also because what say do people in France have over everything turning their language over to a socialist "Academy" and shit.
mircea_popescu: and of course, the capper : "This memo does not introduce any new security issues, but it does attempt to identify some of the problems inherent in a family of recurring technically naive proposals."
mircea_popescu: "this is a technical requirement, not a policy choice" - fancy that wonder. what else is "not a policy choice" ?
mircea_popescu: they built usg in not for any reason than because they WERE usg. postel's "oh noes - otherwise CHAOS" is exactly symptomatic. just like the arab mind can't quite comprehend how one who doesn't give a shit about allah may manage to drink from a cup, just so usgtards can't comprehend how one who isn't a socialist can at all live.
mircea_popescu: other party. Such a condition rules out the ability to define a symbol within some bounded context. In such a case, once the communication moves out of the context of interpretation in which it was defined, the meaning of the symbol becomes lost."
mircea_popescu: (note that they quite exactly identify the exact reason gossipd makes empire impossible : "In the case of a public communications system this condition of a common symbol set with a common semantic interpretation must be further strengthened to that of a unique symbol set with a unique semantic interpretation. This condition of uniqueness allows any party to initiate a communication that can be received and understood by any
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol, did a double-take on the dood in the back
Framedragger: when i was hitch hiking in albania a few years back, i ate lotsa watermelons. because 1) they were awesome there, and 2) it was middle of summer, hot, so lower food intake overall
mircea_popescu: tu berlin is the technische universitat berlin, their version of a politechnic. sec.t-labs.tu-berlin is the "institut fur softwaretechnick und theoretische informatik" (ie the cs faculty of said college)'s it security lab.
mircea_popescu: i think ima actually write a short qntra re this, thinking about it.
asciilifeform: so it had in fact come out of something resembling a battlefield pgptron.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope. 8ball is a 'primorial', it's this process that's been going 2*3*5*7*........... for months
mircea_popescu: and he woke up and he was a bama ?
Framedragger: how did that kharms story go, about the guy dreaming he was a bush..
mircea_popescu: and i also keep it a few dozen lines, so there is that.
Framedragger: oh god. dns is defined using a shitload of RFCs. but easiest way to learn of low-level transport nuances is, well, wireshark. so, wiresharking and eating cake. at the very least this will end up as (possibly) useful website comment for future adventurers.
mircea_popescu: (likely the patch will come in the shape of a dnsmasq clone, which will handle stuff like "tld" as well as things like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-12#1566482 via settings etc) ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: but if a patch is required then that's fine too.
Framedragger: the administration / record-updating would be a separate layer in any case.
Framedragger: i wonder if a simpler key-value store wouldn't work as a replacement for dns server. "flatten" the whole thing, so that, as you say, dns server wouldn't distinguish between types of substrings. the latter would be up to the client, if it willed to do so.
Framedragger: yes indeed; and now i see that maybe there wouldn't be too much of a redundancy there - that is, when gossipd arrives, dns server could still accept pgprams, they'd simply come via gossipd - and the latter may even sit behind an abstracted network interface, etc.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger yes, but communicatin by sending pgpgrams is already a simplified gossipd is the point.
Framedragger: and, i suppose, republican dns server could work in a way that already facilitates session-less communication - pgprams issuing orders to change zone files, etc.
mircea_popescu: it's a typical disaster of commons of the republican era - the needs and interests of people not here yet figure a lot less in the eyes of the present man than his immediate pulsion of lowest order. and in 10 years the choices so made become written in stone and the poor schmucks pay for them. it's sad but unsolvable.
Framedragger: the whole "patch a DNS server and run alternative root" effort sounds interesting and useful, but, as you said, eventually the underlying layer would need to swapped for gossipd anyway. in gossipd, UDP/TCP as currently used by DNS may not even work. hence there may be a redundancy of effort;
Framedragger: so yeah, running a republican dns root would still imply "collaborating" with current internet infrastructure. reform, not revolution. something like, in those tmsr ISP discussion, someone e.g suggesting to acquire an autonomous system number for tmsr. "is it even worth it."
Framedragger: there is a nuance: if lotsa customization is needed, perhaps time/energy is better spent on gossipd. a logistical question i guess.
mircea_popescu: they would have to be "the same" and "up to date" in the sense of dns "give it a day".
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: this implies that there's basically a single dns server, though. it does not delegate to other dns servers, like what we have now
Framedragger: (a piece of history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlterNIC)
Framedragger: "His "reactor" ended when the EPA declared his backyard as a Superfund cleanup site due to hazardous levels of radiation." oh yeah i remember reading about that! hm. so, radiation kills, then. RIP boy scout.
Framedragger: (and for anyone curious, there are a few "alt roots" out there, see alternative root servers section in http://thedjbway.b0llix.net/djbdns/dnsroots.html e.g.
Framedragger: this is fine as long as it's made clear in regards to ownership etc.; but it does put some additional responsibility / ontological charge(?) onto folks who'd own a TLD
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/11/14/duterte-anecdotally/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Duterte anecdotally.
asciilifeform: i eyeballed quite wrongly, this is a 4096b key.
asciilifeform: it's a genuinely diddled key gen, and a MODERN one
mircea_popescu: myeah, the ombilical cord is also very unconvincing. pity, the anatomically correct representation of viscera drives a lot of visceral appeal.
mircea_popescu: https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/3/3a/ClintonDraft005.png << fucking schmuck should need a permit to wear three piece suits wtf is this nonsense.
ben_vulpes: a gross
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-13#1566897 << nice. phucted simply by sharing a known-to-phuctor factor. on cursory glance appears to be in use - and from known uni - and i like the s3cur3 email of seclab at airgapped.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de !1 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's a pretty bad film, but it does typify a mental condition which, lulzily, believed itself normalcy for a brief period in the early 21st century.
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz of a strictly for-expert-entomologists nature, this "opposite of sex" movie is the epitome of jew fantasy land. the whole thing is driven by women, of the irresponsible and mercenary "it's my sweet body and i'll smoke if i want to" (christina ricci) type vs utter unbelievable nag who thinks herself in charge (lisa kudrow). the men are at best ineffectual and spineless (the policeman) or otherwise utterly dum
Framedragger: (covered by me, that is, i.e. i'm a bit..behind)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: and if A registered fags.com and later an established WoT member B, started a commercial "fags" project, B shouldn't be able to claim ownership of A's fags.com, presumably? sorry if this should be stupidly obvious, there is some.. conceptual ground to be covered
mircea_popescu: (bad dns implementations may prevent client from quering for the ip of "vulpes", but that is a problem to be fixed by self-same clients)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: and it's a matter of first-come, first-serve (assuming no conflicts with names owned by established keys)?
ben_vulpes: is there any reason one couldn't host 'com' as a domain, absent the crown concessions?
Framedragger: i was just looking at IDN TLDs. myeah, a bit of clusterfuck
Framedragger: apart from the lulz, the point would be, i suppose, that there should be no reason to disallow for that. assuming registering party is in good standing within WoT; and if there were an actual .lemonparty on current reptilian dns, they'd better cough up a pgp sig.
mircea_popescu: bout a month in the carnage ; certainly not halfway done.
mircea_popescu: and in other mosul news, presuming anyone gives a shit : karkojli "liberated" ; nimrud not.
ben_vulpes: now i'm getting pms to determine if i'm a furry
mircea_popescu: people gotta get a chance, that's all. what they do with it...
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : https://archive.is/am4m2 coming from the future (i think nov 21st is still next week right ?) one Amy Davidson makes exactly the argument for tmsr, just somehow insanely applied to the progre party. "The more interesting question is how people in political life approach what they may regard as a duty to serve their country, whoever the President may be, while preserving their dignity and their decency. This in
mircea_popescu: anyway, "we've decided not to leak anything so please give a shit". i... don't give a shit.
asciilifeform: (bastard blocks archive.is. this is really a thing that needs a Final Solution, ovens & all )
asciilifeform: Framedragger: a corrupted version of this key popped on phuctor a while back.
Framedragger: incidentally, iirc apple does have a key for security@apple.com or somesuch; would be amusing if later on, a 'security' intern at apple (who was the one to create the key as nobody else bothered with it) came forward..
asciilifeform: it is relevant if and only if a key has 'teeth', e.g., opens backdoor in every x86 box on the net, etc.
mircea_popescu: i am not concerned with the pretense of fiat orgs, not even so much as to regard a supposed "continuity" as relevant.
asciilifeform: (a ~broken~ key on phuctor is worth the skin of a dead donkey)
asciilifeform: i'm still not sold on the concept of a pgp key in multiple pockets being any different an affair from old fiatola reich control.
mircea_popescu: the republic, here as everywhere, now as always, forces a certain mode of life. where people matter ; where individuals rule ; etcetera.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure it'll open. consider : even someone from thje fucking mailroom could have the sense to make the damned key. then in six months to a year and a half when they have desperate board meetings over "nobody could have predicted ; wut do" he waltzes in, gives them the key, becomes "vp for not being dumb"
mircea_popescu: not a lie. the only possible truth.
asciilifeform: so -- it'd be a lie, if some d00d, even the resurrected corpse of jobs, etc., showed up with key and said 'i am apple'