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mircea_popescu: if you learn japanese when you're 1 yo, you're a native speaker. if you don't, you might be able to learn some semblance later on, but for most people it'll never happen, and for a tiny minority it will still overwhelmingly never be as good.
mircea_popescu: the problem being, of course, that once this fork has been passed there's no way back. there isn't a phase transition from manchild seeking support from reality to adult. there's just a choice, at a narrow band of time during preadolescence somewhere.
MolokoDesk: if it doesn't work the first time you make another copy.
MolokoDesk: I wouldn't run a trading exchange without an incoming queue.
RagnarsBitch: It couldn't be read
MolokoDesk: and didn't get an acknowledgement from deedBot about the first one ... 3WT0JW5
MolokoDesk: I think the sha1 test case I was using wasn't in WoT at the time is why I've never noticed one before.
MolokoDesk: (you can't)
MolokoDesk: just wanted to check something: that you can't set the main channel to a nick.
MolokoDesk: there's relative awful and absolute awful. Absolute awful would be something that does a join using a loop and a bunch of separate lookups. You'll see people who use declarative languages and aren't aware of the judo available in SQL. They often have no idea what the computer is actually doing, just what the language constructs accomplish in terms of final output.
MolokoDesk: there are a lot of high level skills involved that wouldn't be reflected in the language reference card.
bounce: plenty people using "sql" turn out to've little inklink of the theory backing the thing and so aren't very good at using it what it's for--expressing relations between data. then you end up with a glorified key/value store, which is a waste of all that complexity. such people think mysql is a good idea.
MolokoDesk: anyway, I don't wanna spam a bunch of newb sqlite3 agony here. Thanks for the suggestion regarding a new tool.
MolokoDesk: no. it's 2.8.17 I don't admin this box so I can't change that.
MolokoDesk: (well. so far none of the command line commands work in sqlite on a linux box with RatingSystem.db listed as the "main" database. won't show the tables etc.
punkman: I don't think you need to worry about vandalism or urgency
MolokoDesk: the other scenario is someone urgently needs to register contracts to they're up-rated to +2 to access the bot, but it won't recognize their new rating because it "already has" that info.
MolokoDesk: Cyc was/is supposed to be somewhat like that. I think it doesn't handle what linguists call scripts or scenarios, but Lenat and OpenCYC are aware of the issues.
bounce: "nobody told them the input they passed wouldn't be taken as data but as code, yet it's their fault anyhow"
bounce: but that doesn't change the basic fact that if you actually do say exactly what you mean you still typically have a better chance of getting the point across
xmj: some people have their precision removed and think they don't
moriarty: i don't know if any of you have ever done any humanities
bounce: moriarty, don't be an ass please
moriarty: and if you don't get the joke, well, explaining it would kill the joke
moriarty: when you make a joke, you don't want to explain the entire innuendo and corresponding nuances associated to be precise about your joke
xmj: please don't do this.
xmj: moriarty: if you want, i can spam you with vague statements that are technically correct and don't mean shit.
xmj: you can't play devils advocate on your own philosophies
xmj: why develop a philosophy if you don't believe in it?
bounce: that still doesn't require belief. let me give you a simile.
BingoBoingo: I don't know what confusion of ideas can lead to this conversation.
moriarty: BingoBoingo, sure, and philosophy doesn't require faith? :)
BingoBoingo: moriarty: Religion generally requires Spz. additional dependencies that philosophy per it self doesn't
moriarty: xmj, well if calvinism is attributable as a predecessor to capitalism then i don't see what's so bad about it
bounce: think your definition of "not dumb" is a bit too narrow. there's such a thing as kinds of intelligence (we know this inasmuch as we know what intelligence is anyway, which we don't, not really), and what you're rooting for is "social intelligence", something girls tend to be better with than boys
bounce: "dumb" isn't the right word for that, not even close.
bounce: you can't have both here
bounce: why haven't you moved to some islamic country yet?
moriarty: xmj, yeah you can promise me the moon, doesn't mean jack
bounce: well, you just all but declared your interest in ms. hilton, didn't you?
moriarty: BingoBoingo, if you're ugly or keep offending people, then chances are you won't last very long on that throne
moriarty: lol then again i don't think many people in here know too much about stocks or ##econometrics
BingoBoingo: moriarty: Aristocracy is great, but... You've got to maintain a position in it. If you suck it doesn't matter that you're a Borgia.
moriarty: xmj, oh you want something more direct, try t-bills
moriarty: i.e. when you pass it on to some offspring, you don't have to fix it again
xmj: can't do that with NSA Inc.
moriarty: xmj, at least i'm not google, i don't pretend to do no evil :) and then rape everyone
bounce: we can do so much better, yet aren't doing it. we're making unnecessary tradeoffs and are telling ourselfs it's the best we can have so suck it up
bounce: the problem is that the whole thing is optimised for appearance, not substance. technically the whole credit card thing doesn't work very well.
BingoBoingo: In the courtroom, who doesn't want a pipe hitting member of the tribe on their team?
BingoBoingo: And in Law school the Goy's can't call out aspiring goy's because PC
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: More people want a Goy lawyer, but don't want an actual Goy. The actual goys tend to retreat to either left coast after law school.
asciilifeform: or is it that other folks won't go to a 'goy' lawyer ?
decimation: danielpbarron: don't tell me you are dispensationalist?
decimation: I don't get the jews. why do they care about jews? They are just a small subset of europeans among the unwashed masses of europeans
asciilifeform: a professional scammer not scamming usg also, would be like a pro mechanic who won't fix own car
BingoBoingo: Don't forget Thermos and Nefario...
decimation: I remember trying hypercard in school, but I was introduced too late - didn't understand why it was more compelling than hypertext
asciilifeform: (i haven't any for it. i actually associate the environment it ran on with school, which was a misery)
Duffer1: oh damn i'm sure those "i am darren wilson" bracelets didn't help the situation much lol
Duffer1: BingoBoingo, i haven't been following it, riots yet?
decimation: its clients all were all arms of usg, but it wasn't directly supported by usg
asciilifeform: it isn't too much sweat.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: what, you can't?
asciilifeform: 'If you're a defendant, you don't get to claim your fingerprints miraculously appeared at a crime scene... If you're a bookkeeper, you don't get to say money miraculously disappeared from your company...' ☟︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: Why Science Can't Accept Miracles (Even if They Really Exist)
BingoBoingo: DMOZ being a project left for the people who aren't even good enough for wikipedia fail.
BingoBoingo: Shit doesn't even require a sould cruching residency.
BingoBoingo: In the interim my younger brother went to dental school, and... why the fuck didn't I do that...
BingoBoingo: Are there any longsoons that aren't in miniature?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: And there's the trick. You can't have shangri-la without fresh nubile women, and you can't have a place for them to congregate without a city. By this metric a courtyard between building wings could be all the gultch necessary.
BingoBoingo: Right, because Derek Jeter gets to go out with dignity and... Brett Farve after all that CTE can't even continue to grasp hook up etiquette.
RagnarDanneskjol: hmm. intersting point. I can't stand pro sports
BingoBoingo: You can have a great quarterback, but it doesn't mean much if they have to burn time getting the ball in the first place instead of getting it downfield.
BingoBoingo: The dude was on supplemental oxygen though before he came back. Why he didn't fucking cross the street to the hospital(s) you could see on camera I will never know.
BingoBoingo: Dude sat out the entire second quarter on an oxygen machine, game back the second half. Made game winning plays. Definitely making it into the Nfl if he doesn't get himself killed first.
assbot: The Pentagon Isn't Done Investigating 1,700 Child Porn Cases From 2006
MolokoDesk: freenode assigns the same password to every nick I register. they're all me. It's some anti-sockpuppet feature. There may be work around. I haven't looked into it deeply
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: misnomer. wasn't about the present-day claim of switching off location data to a geographic region
asciilifeform: but, if i recall, wasn't, when first built.
asciilifeform: actually it isn't an entirely useless thing, such devices can be used to provide experimental proof of, e.g., sr time dilation (yes, exists)
asciilifeform: if you don't know why you need it - you don't
RagnarDanneskjol: don't know who else is op in here
BingoBoingo: Bottleneck sure. Kind of like a disk drive in comparison. If a process and its handlers can't fit in 16 MB of on chip cache though this is a wrong solution for the task.
BingoBoingo is sad more people aren't building chips "Up" and making freon check a part of computer maintenance in more scenarios. Manhattan, New York instead of Manhattan, Kansas...
mircea_popescu: moreover i don't use so many dumb things that have annoying needs.
mircea_popescu: hm, this shou;dn't work.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell jborkl you don't know where to start ? here's a suggestion as to where to start : http://trilema.com/2013/preemptive-strike-to-have-on-hand-for-when-butterfly-labs-gets-hauled-off-to-jail-in-corpore/
mircea_popescu: scammer won't change his tune even if his tune is pre-published years earlier. because.. why would he.
mircea_popescu: "“We will analyze the information on a case-by-case basis, and cross-reference this database with the taxpayers that have declared accounts on Switzerland’s HSBC,” Echegaray explained afterwards when meeting the press at the Argentine Embassy in France." << how about "we can't use stolen data".
mircea_popescu: pity it doesn't also mention how bush and his lackey blair lied about imagined "weapons" that they themselves did have, but iraq did not have.
mircea_popescu: you don';t add fools to the mix.
mircea_popescu: no, you just don't want to apply management to the philosophical problem.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact that the eu even considered that demand, and i don't mean answer to it, but even considered it
thestringpuller: There shouldn't be a Bitcoin Foundation at all.
thestringpuller: Bitcoin Foundatoin shouldn't be in the US
mats_cd03: "The bitcoin community doesn't necessarily endorse U.S. foreign policy, and the bitcoin community doesn't necessarily endorse everything the U.S. intelligence community does." But, he said, "things that are morally wrong, bitcoin rejects." ...
asciilifeform: 'to take but one simple example: suppose you thought of the new millennium when you wrote your application back in 1972 -- not only wouldn't you be invited to the party, those who knew you had done it right from the start and who probably laughed at you at the time would positively hate you now, and they sure as hell wouldn't tell people about you. and the more stupid they are, the more important it would be to ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'another way to look at this is to see that software in today's society has a number of diseased elements, to consider that maggots eat only diseased or dead tissue, that dead or dying software projects lie around all over the place, like a horrible war zone between ignorant users and frightened managers, and pretend that you're a maggot. you wouldn't care about the living and the healthy who prosper outside th
mircea_popescu: the one thing all those idiots will never say is exactly the only thing they should be saying at all : this other guy didn't do it, he is our king, our lord, our sovereign, and so much better than we may even aspire to one day be.