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benkay: ivstr28: the david johnston paper?
ivstr28: so you thought the white paper on decentralized applications was bullshit too right?
benkay: i can't even fathom the mind that decided that a return to the broken past was necessary.
benkay: mastercoin has reversable transactions
ivstr28: all work on the project since then is irrelevent
benkay: potatoes can be had though
benkay: you'll have to get into the WoT and sign a contract so I can nail your ass to the wall for nonpayment later.
benkay: i'm not getting paid to do your thinking for you, although we can arrange for that.
benkay: master coin to the moon!
benkay: oh well that convinced me
benkay: "I saw JR Willet present at Bitcoin 2013 conference in San Jose. He struck me as an honest guy, well intentioned, and smart. That's why I don't think Mastercoin is a scam."
benkay: wth is an open transaction?
ivstr28: so how long do we have to wait until open transactions?
benkay: wait no dogecoin alone is the truth
benkay: bitcoin alone is the truth. all else is transient scammery.
ivstr28: seems to be lots of hyperbole, when when there are valid criticisms, the spec gets updated
benkay: who can ever tell
benkay: having a nonesensical coin is great because it weeds out everyone who might have a clue from the scam pool
ivstr28: yeah read the reddit thread
ivstr28: oz your reasoning is the same as the blog I posted?
ivstr28: yeah comments at the end of the blog...
Duffer1: there's a couple threads about mastercion scam
ivstr28: can someone explain why MSC is terrible, and if MSC fails, what would stop another similar effort?
KRS|Gotyawallet: Ain't levin no presents...ain't tastin no cookie..straight up gankin.
KRS|Gotyawallet: If you see that Santa Claus comin out yo window, betta believe that nigga robbin yo crib.
KRS|Gotyawallet: Yes God favors the Whites.
benkay: "Thus, a Russian is less likely to consider sudden descent into pverty as a fall from God's grace, and economic collapse as God's punishment upon the people, while the religions that dominate America - Protestentatism, Judaism, Islam - all feature temporal success of their followers as a key piece of evidence that god is well-disposed to them."
ThickAsThieves: I think Harrison Ford will be the next Naked Gun lead
Duffer1: @Bitcoin 2014 would be a great year to start!
mod6: asciilifeform: Just finished part I. Strangely, I feel like I've read it before. Looking forward to parts II & III though. Really good stuff.
Vexual: where are all these 70k houses? thats stamp duty in oz
KRS|Gotyawallet: hah thanks..i have a friend who is a roofer and gambles non stop poor guy..blackjack.
KRS|Gotyawallet: last time i played blackjack i won $2400 using $100 in bets..i never went back...f'them
KRS|Gotyawallet: yes thats why i like fucking over the casinos
KRS|Gotyawallet: ya actually i've been wanting to get in on some of those
mircea_popescu: great. take it to bitbet
KRS|Gotyawallet: no shit..hate gambling. i was bored. never going back there again.
mircea_popescu: you'll lose 50 the same way.
mircea_popescu: (the quote i used is a us baseball thing)
mircea_popescu: they stopped getting it just as it started tumbling.
mircea_popescu: most americans got this just fine back when america was going up.
Duffer1: or the conservative accuracy oppression
benkay: i'm interested in the notion of cheating as a prerequisite for success, and how most americans don't get this. gotta be a part of the socialist thought repression...
mircea_popescu: if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'.
mircea_popescu: curious if it makes any sense to anyone.
ozbot: The wonderful powers of make-believe pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
zach_: ok thank you
zach_: if i suggest a new bet and i fund it, but it gets rejected do i get the BTC back?
z: hey i got a question, if i suggest a new bet and i fund it and they reject it, do i get my BTC back?
mod6: ah, yeah The Graduate.
mircea_popescu: 1sec, trying to finish this fucking monster.
mircea_popescu: the graduate. ty internets.
mircea_popescu: anyone recall the damned name or the (very young at the time) star ?
mircea_popescu: so theres this 70s film about a kid living in repressed california fucking his neighbour's wife and then her daughter.
mod6: i would assert that he's wrong and that his writing does have meaning. although dark, what can be more important than the lessons of the past to future generations?
asciilifeform: he said something to the effect of 'my books just fuck people up for no ultimate gain.'
asciilifeform: he promised to, at any rate.
mod6: so many books, so little time!
mod6: maybe i should pick up one of those.
asciilifeform: i think he put an expanded version of this in one of his dead-tree books, also.
mod6: ahh, thx.
asciilifeform: see also the author's canonical piece, 'Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post-American Century'.
mod6: Perhaps we'll all look back in 25 years and realize that it has already started, just that the switch hasn't been flipped to "rock & roll" yet.
mod6: Thanks for the link. I always like to read about peoples accounts of what they went through during the fall of the USSR. Seems like a light-version of what the USSA is going to go through soon.
ozbot: Martha Reeves & The Vandellas - Nowhere To Run (1965) HD - YouTube
asciilifeform: same as every country that bought MIGs. 'yes, ussr, sole source of spare parts, now owns our arse. enjoy it please'
asciilifeform: the only conclusion is that its clients became such as: a gesture of submission.
asciilifeform: AG, even in the mechanical rotor-machine days, was publicly, loudly proven to supply thoroughly-pwnable systems.
mod6: it's like this old Martha & The Vandellas song: "No where to run to baby! No where to hide..."
asciilifeform: #1 supplier of cipher machines to diplomats worldwide...
mod6: "Well, Sir, that will be six trillion fuffles, if you please."
mod6: "How much do I owe you for this latte, dear graduate?"
asciilifeform: or witness 'Crypto AG' - swiss company; founded by best friend of the founder of... nsa. owned by: no one knows, probably usg.
mod6: A better term would be “qualitative fuffling:: the financial snake is finally eating its own tail.
mod6: Another example is America's favorite fufflemobile: the SUV.<< hahah
asciilifeform: the chumps, one inescapably concludes, demand to be pwned.
ozbot: ClubOrlov: Welcome to Fuffland
asciilifeform: 'If the victim, at the sight of the economic predator, goes into doggie submission, we must stop discussing the phenomenon in terms of conflict and consider whether what we are observing might be some strange instance of symbiosis.' ☟︎
asciilifeform: there's a fellow who appears to have a good handle on this phenomenon.
mod6: yeah, same thing with a lot of these places. Verisign got hacked, lost all SSL private keys. Pff.
asciilifeform: but did rsa 'stop being bridge-builder' to the idiot 'business world' ? nope.
asciilifeform: a while ago, somebody walked off with /all/ the private keys for those fobs
asciilifeform: 'but do they call me bob the bridge-builder?'
asciilifeform: points to another, 'fixed that one last monsoon time'
asciilifeform: villager Bob is visited by a chum of his. Bob points to a bridge, says 'built that there bridge, i did.'
mod6: (who was really suprised about the RSA/NSA news anyway?) I don't think there is a single software or hardware producer in the US that trust. Not that I perhaps ever did, but now its all out there!!
asciilifeform: everyone knows the tale of 'Bob the Bridge-Builder?'
mod6: With the news about RSA/NSA/BSafe and that they put in a backdoored Dual ECC RNG as default in the rolling key fob, I hardly imagine the demand for a trustworthy and open-source producer of cryptographic devices.
benkay: might just get my -otc auth down to a minute from a cold start
Duffer1: i want one so i don't have to keep reinstalling gpg4win everytime i want to auth
mod6: I'm excited for the Cardano.
mod6: i need to steal this and use it elsewhere: Contemplate your pyramids elsewhere.
benkay: i'll just shelve my desire for the No Such lAbs stream computation lisp machine for now.
benkay: wait u guise come back that was the most educational thing in -assets all week
nubbins`: ah, drinking is its own therapy
asciilifeform: the clockless ARM (pretty braindamaged idea, to take a classical cpu and make it clockless, but anyway) had to be designed ad hoc, avoiding industry-standard toolchains. ☟︎
asciilifeform: none of this is a secret.
asciilifeform: they're all geared to traditional (clocked) logic.
mircea_popescu: o wait, we're in teh public chan lol.
asciilifeform: modern chip designers use gnarly layout tools, priced in $seven figures, with run times measured in weeks, winblows, etc