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mircea_popescu: iirc
trilema even published some real estate paperwork from my stay
there
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i mean
the 'fly
to
terristostan, come home, get apprehended for aiding and abetting'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pretty sure
the brits do it
too
ben_vulpes: there's always
the jail stiped if you fly over and
then
turn
tail
BingoBoingo: And German comes with a stipend if you convert
to Islam
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform:
They needed
that million
to bid against
the Chicoms
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure, lots of places have similar deals.
The point is all
those silicon valley pantsuits who
thought
they had an out. Waiting for
their paper
to carry
them across
the Pacific so
they could retire
to Pokemon Go and hobbit fucking in New Zealand, except...
The window closed on
them.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:15 asciilifeform: whole
thing quite resembles
the 'silver coin glued
to
the asphalt' everyone encounters in childhood
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Imma prolly have
to do
that in light of
the parallels
to Brazillian history.
BingoBoingo: The whole crummel story is lulzy. Pan African runs over
to Liberia in 1853
to raise a Christian Republic... Returns
to
the US in fear of
the ascendant Liberian mulatto caste.
BingoBoingo: Anything after
that including Kim's husband has
to fall into
the general case
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's when Alexander Crummel died. Was a black nationalist who worked on making a black zion in Liberia, put skin into
the game, mourned
the results.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-16 16:38 mircea_popescu:
the fact
that anglotard english "does not have a cannonical body of works",
the necessary result of "ameritards stole england's language but had no room in pocket for culture", resulted as it has in "no great american novel" makes it impossible for engl dept
to see what classical lang dept did and do it one better.
ben_vulpes: 'haskellism'
thread for
those who mighta got something out of socrates.
mircea_popescu: the fact
that anglotard english "does not have a cannonical body of works",
the necessary result of "ameritards stole england's language but had no room in pocket for culture", resulted as it has in "no great american novel" makes it impossible for engl dept
to see what classical lang dept did and do it one better.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: kids would rather sit around
the
table gabbling about whatever problems 0.00003% of
the population have instead of sitting down and reading old shit about universals as what apply
to 99.99% of
the population
mircea_popescu: an' i betcha it's because
they "don't feel" it "fair"
to ~exclude~ anything. rendering any count impossible. which is very much
the point.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the probable "cause" for
there not being sane dict for living langs, you realise, is
that
there IS such a
thing as a cannonical body of greek, but "who is
to say what anglovomit does not make
the cut".
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-12-13 15:07
trinque: speaking of relics, I just dug up WORDS
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform indeed.
thing is, last
thinking men in english retreated in greek. amusing how
this went.
mircea_popescu: (perseus incidentally makes
the value of digital dict quite apparent ;
they have linked word frequency counts, very good collations of multiple dict/thesauri etc)
ben_vulpes began
the exercise as a form of entertainment during a road
trip recently; "hey baby what do you
think of
this
translation" "what does X mean in context of Y"
mircea_popescu: i manage quite well with digital lookup in dictionary flatfiles, but i suspect familiarity has a lot
to do with it.
ben_vulpes: all
this
time no auto-interlineated de
toqueville; and on and on
a111: Logged on 2018-08-16 15:56 mircea_popescu: italians naturally learn german, germans not so naturally.
there's a fundamental problem with germanic languages ; and if one follows
the
tree,
that problem is best realised in fino-ugric group.
ben_vulpes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-16#1841997 <<
the otherwise-invisible failure
to implement anything even approaching intelligence augmentation (or even
the statistical AI crap) is never so obvious as when
translating works in other languages on
the
touchscreendevices: why does 'iBooks' waste all of
this
time animating between
the french and english
translations of
the book i'm working on; how is
there after
☝︎ mircea_popescu: tbh i don't
think anyone at all familiar with
the functioning of hardware init can propose
the
tradition is worth continuing with a straight face.
mircea_popescu: ave1 in my mind,
this sort of elaborate incantatorial nonsense is why i nodded along at alf's screaming for new procs historically.
ave1: I never looked into
this in
the 90s and now I have
too learn
mircea_popescu: which i presume is WHY
the gdr
table is still 0 on 1st entry
mircea_popescu: aha. but i vaguely recall, from my days of doing
this 2decades+ ago,
that
the way
to put processor from real
to protected mode or back was a
triple fault
a111: Logged on 2015-08-02 22:53 asciilifeform: for instance,
the 'a20 gate' is almost certainly not actually implemented in your chipset
mircea_popescu: it's easy
to read fast when you don't understand anything.
mircea_popescu: ave1 you know it's a pleasure
to revisit my childhood in your company.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is
the whole
talk-to-kbd
the replacement
triple-fault
to switch modes or whart ?
mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem with "happy" families is
that
they provide no intrinsic reason for offspring
to "seek fortune" (as in
the fairtyale
trope).
Mocky: it did occur
to me. went
to
the dominican republic some years ago for a summer, started learning spanish. but had no use for it back in
the states
Mocky: i'm not in a position
to say!
mircea_popescu: ~that~ would be
the "lead poisoning" rather
than some sort of mystical, unexaminable, forever-opressive miasma. it's just
the simple
thing, "hey, axototl, no
tail ?" "yeah... no iodine where i live..."
mircea_popescu: tu quoque, have spent
time and effort doing all sorts of
things with your life, none of which are bad or wrong per se. yet it never occured
to you "must learn language" in any effectual sense.
this'd be a natural occurence
though, wouldn't you say ? what disocurred it for you ? how come you went in all
the rooms in
the palace but one ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 14:55 mircea_popescu:
there's
this joke in romania
that "if you hear a hungarian speaking foreing languages you're looking at a jew".
mircea_popescu: italians naturally learn german, germans not so naturally.
there's a fundamental problem with germanic languages ; and if one follows
the
tree,
that problem is best realised in fino-ugric group.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: how do you explain most english speakers suffer from
the
turkish idiocy (or, manchuko idiocy, if you prefer), where
they fail
to learn other languages ?
Mocky: i can see
that argument, but it completely sidesteps
the "first language" claim
mircea_popescu: if you have $100, it's way better
to buy
two $40 pairs and a girl a drink
than
to blow
the wad on a $100 pair of shoes.
mircea_popescu: but in general, you want multiple languages for
the exact reason you want multiple women, or shoes. howsoever comfortable, howsoever good, useful, proper, right, you name it, if you always use
the same pair of shoes
they'll become unseemly.
Mocky: s gonna chelate some fo
that lead?
Mocky: so
then "first langauge" less an issue
than "only language"? so multi fluency
mircea_popescu: contrary
to what you might read into
that, romanian also makes you fucking stupid. different kind, discussed at length on
trilema
though. divide & impera amirite, let
the idiocy fight idiocy.
mircea_popescu: Mocky you could just as well
take a woman or
two and become mellifluous i mean multifluent.
mircea_popescu: as it
turns out, absurdity undergirths human
thought, as a sort of rebar.
mircea_popescu: "when you read a
text and can distinguish
the absurdities it contains from
the actual sense, you may claim you have an anachronistic understanding of
the matter ; but when you read
the
text and clearly see
the ~necessity~ of
the absurdities,
their fundamentally-required-ness, and
the circumstantialness of
the sense, you may claim meaningful understanding of
the item" as
the witticism goes.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: one of course has
to even learn wtf alizarin is, in
the process. but
then again
that is
the entire method.
mircea_popescu: but
to continue
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-16#1841967 : it's also a red
thread particularly productive
through
the hermeneutic method. "why did
the greeks care about
the columns"
type of inquiries work quite well, "why did someone like say heinrich caro dedicate a decade of his life
to
turkish red ?"
☝︎ Mocky: sounds like a bill murrray, dan aykroyd "don't cross
the streams" item