asciilifeform: but not 'troo' solution ☟︎

asciilifeform: mipsism is a half-solution, of sorts, in that can build a mipsistic gnat and then will execute anywhere you can port the 12kB emu to

asciilifeform: trinque: to expand -- currently gnat srcball aint a complete description of gnat. i.e. it demands existing gnat. iirc was described pedantically in old thrd.

asciilifeform: but iirc this was before we even gnat'd

asciilifeform: iirc at one time mp suggested this, 'there oughta be ONE genesis' ☟︎

asciilifeform: trinque: the obv. toothbreaking stone is gnat.

asciilifeform: trinque: thinking about it, 1 possible answer to the puzzler is to make an entire orchestra as 1 vtree.

asciilifeform: ( + 'dhrystone' lol )

asciilifeform: is actually all i got atm in the mips thing -- busybox

asciilifeform: i suppose beats alternative where burning life in salt mine and ~not~ piling up coin

asciilifeform: if can solve this cleanly, can then be rid of portage, even, in principle ☟︎

asciilifeform: each of which by all logic wants to be sep. vtree, but are dependent functionally

asciilifeform: imho this is the real open q in the thread -- how to represent relation b/w nominally separate proggies

asciilifeform: trinque: how does 'regress infinitely' ? plox to elaborate

asciilifeform: there's no fucking point to that, if we keep genesis of orig ☟︎

asciilifeform: where if you snip a MB, ~that patch~ now weighs 1MB+

asciilifeform: nao what i'd really like is to ditch the idjit unixdiff's reversible deletions

asciilifeform: it's the same thing, imho, the cost of being able to trace the history to birth of universe, is having to keep it around

asciilifeform: i meant the blox, trinque

asciilifeform: trinque: indeed does. bitter pill. but sorta like bitcoin requires that 300GB (an' counting) of liquishit, 4evah

asciilifeform: i.e. it's a theoretical (if somewhat burning) q, rather than 'ohnoez, trinque Did It All Wrong'

asciilifeform: even if 'yes want'

asciilifeform: trinque: iirc we don't yet even have a vdiff that'd eat 900M

asciilifeform: 'new shithouse will be built from bricks of the one we blew up'(tm)(r)(lenin)

asciilifeform: towers o'shit are cumulative, noose at 11..

asciilifeform: gotta, neh

asciilifeform: (i.e. gets eaten by htaccessism ? )

asciilifeform: ah so if the page renderer asks for url, it dun see foo, bar ?

asciilifeform: ( iirc php gives you copy of full url ? )

asciilifeform: and use'em to bake highlight

asciilifeform: nao all you'd need is to pluck out that foo and bar

asciilifeform: ~correctly~

asciilifeform: trilema.com/foo/bar/2016/44/32/21/11/pili/ btw loads even nao...

asciilifeform: then narrow domain for'em, and can easily detect whether present

asciilifeform: e.g. trilema.com/rubber/ducky/2018/pushing-the-soft-flesh-and-so-on-against-the-so-and-so-blades-of-the-immutable-machine-etcetera-second-installment/

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: what if sel operands were to go on ~left~ side ?

asciilifeform: pretty typical specimen of 'we ameritards, did it over friday beer an' pizza' kludge

asciilifeform: rright, just thinkin' about .htaccess makes asciilifeform's stomach go

asciilifeform: loox like finally a potential justification for spyked's thing

asciilifeform: the proposed format aint mathematically ambiguous, i can write it as regexp say. but whothefuckknows what the programmatic liquishit getting in the way might be.

asciilifeform does not know how, exactly, so will have to leave it there

asciilifeform: unsurprisingly they dunwork ~now~ , but could be made ?

asciilifeform tried several times, never got his htaccess thing to work correctly, hence why still has barbarian ?=xyz titles

asciilifeform: hrm

asciilifeform: why would it matter what's after the 2nd / ?

asciilifeform: /article-title/

asciilifeform: err,

asciilifeform: /article/title/

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: why's that ? name is what's b/w the 1st 2 / , neh ?

asciilifeform: goodnight diana_coman

asciilifeform: ( down side -- would need the backend to search with ignoring of spaces, commas, etc )

asciilifeform: upstack: imho best form would be 100% plaintext, sumthing like trilema.com/article-title/rubber/ducky/ . then! can also ~select~ by hand crank, without jsism, if want , on box w/out jsism

asciilifeform: the thing already cuts into /-separated chunks, tho, neh.

asciilifeform has nfi whether this is trivial to implement , or headache

asciilifeform: cut it up on serv side into operands, do Right Thing

asciilifeform: could in principle trilema.com/article-title/5/7/#selection ?

asciilifeform: ugh

asciilifeform: or is this in re the internal representation

asciilifeform: i thought footnotes were html anchors

asciilifeform peeks at the nfs forum crapola; nao with 'nya-nya' from peanut gallery, bonus. ☝︎

asciilifeform brb:teatime

asciilifeform: all of this may or may not be worth the effort. but perhaps worth to try.

asciilifeform: bonus, in machine log could see what readers like to select.

asciilifeform: ( would do roughly same thing as presently, but munge the url in browser so when loaded, gives server-end selectified copy )

asciilifeform: only need js for select-maker

asciilifeform: and correct, if server-end munge, you dun need the displayer js at all

asciilifeform: naturally not. you'd have to put in e.g. <span style="blah">....</span> or whatnot. and 'anchor' so thing scrolls to it.

asciilifeform: i haven't yet found browser that doesn't render text colour when asked

asciilifeform: make it look exactly same, if liek

asciilifeform: no more so than w/ js selectism neh

asciilifeform: how so ?

asciilifeform: have it switched off on most boxen

asciilifeform: see, i fuckinhate js

asciilifeform: potentially can decode on box where no js, by hand grep

asciilifeform: tru, left+right makes for human-readable selector

asciilifeform: e.g. 'duck+4'

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re select, potentially you can get away with storing only left side + character count

asciilifeform loox in his notebook and finds also 'hm why not let mp-wp highlight selects on server-end, so machines w/out js display highlights' but also never attempted this, notenuff phpfu

asciilifeform: coupla ln of jshit , i expect

asciilifeform: simple run-length encode worx as well

asciilifeform: who said lzw.

asciilifeform: could possibly compress for link shortening, but yes

asciilifeform: idea is, selector knows what the selection is, when it is made, ~that~ part worx errywhere

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: correct

asciilifeform: ( after google bought opera & buried in cement, became 'de facto standard' microshit-style. nao behaves 100% like 1990s microshit, does whateverthefuck it wants )

asciilifeform: is what www browserism is.

asciilifeform: mountain of insanity, 100km tall

asciilifeform: i'ma defo do mine, if this is baked

asciilifeform: not necessarily useless, could autoconvert to $form

asciilifeform: ( if not -- 'xyzduck' and 'duckpqr' respectively, where xyz/pqr are context)

asciilifeform: if this is the ~only~ text on the page, then start='duck', end='duck' neh

asciilifeform: possibly someone handy with jsism could attempt ( lobbes ? )

asciilifeform: when i was sawing the thing apart , thought 'why not make selector search for start/end chars until finds unique, then sel displayer ditto' but did not get to trying this

asciilifeform: it's a wonder that even displaying text worx reliably

asciilifeform: net o'brokenlinx

asciilifeform: almost certainly saw

asciilifeform: was home of e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-08#1912124 ☝︎

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: since '17

asciilifeform: 'golden age' of ben in re trb etc was when was in own shop .

asciilifeform: but nuffin else was said.