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asciilifeform: asciilifeform refers to this genre of writing as '10th-dimension', after infamous pseudoscientific b00k/www by same name, which consisted of highly refined 'imponade' (to borrow naggum's) , that is, writing designed to pull the reader's intellectual cock and give a sensation of 'profound insight', 'yes, NAO i UNDERSTAND FIZZZIX!' or similar.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-18 01:24 mircea_popescu: I blame Eric Raymond and to a lesser extent Dave Winer for bringing this kind of schlock writing onto the Internet. Raymond is the original perpetrator of the "what is a hacker?" essay, in which you quickly begin to understand that a hacker is someone who resembles Eric Raymond. Dave Winer has recently and mercifully moved his essays off to audio, but you can still hear him snorfling cashew nuts and talking at length about wh
ben_vulpes: and a pike of entropy sitting in the corner
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes already owns 1/3 (by mass...) of a complete unit !1111
asciilifeform: phf: happen to have a preserved copy of any of these ?
asciilifeform: ( and what precisely could be a motivation, in moribund american megacorp where 'proverbial' programmer always seems to work, to 'super' ? 1% bonus ? to be fired three months later than the next-best team ? better potato ration ? which..? )
asciilifeform: en able to link. One day it became apparent that the component extended a base class of the Qt graphics toolkit, while their program used MFC. Foolishly, I ventured to suggest that if the base class wasn’t available, a derived class couldn’t be linked to it. One of the workers informed me that this was “my opinion”. I should have left it alone, I know. But I used to work in a useful industry. I explained that it was a simple
asciilifeform: 'Amongst some people, such confusion has been elevated to a philosophical ideology. I once watched a very lost group working near to me, who had spent months trying to print out a graph. It was all very complicated for them. Eventually they decided to purchase a third party graph drawing component, which advertised that it could print out graphs. After considerable administration they obtained a binary library, which they were not th
phf: it's a right and proper design
asciilifeform: perhaps this is a good time and place to say why. in short -- specificity-of-diddling theorem.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-29 14:36 mircea_popescu: speaking of above article, can i get a commitment to never signing any V material which includes any non-ascii characters ? BingoBoingo diana_coman hanbot trinque mod6 danielpbarron mircea_popescu mike_c asciilifeform davout ben_vulpes phf jurov
mircea_popescu: are pthreads even a good thing ?
phf: asciilifeform: is usb convertable to rs-232 with a ~limited~ application of soldering iron?
phf: asciilifeform: that's a good question, i haven't isolated the bug, but i'm pretty sure on openbsd crashes instantaneously. note that c++ threads are involved, so perhaps they try to initialize things even before you start using them?
phf: researching the problem i came across a lot of "my static linked openbsd program just crashes! ... ... -lpthread ... ...", but also a handful of linux ones
phf: "On some Linux distributions libpthread.a
mircea_popescu: i'm a fucking pioneer, been doing it since the last millenium!
phf: asciilifeform: no, it's a gcc bug that's present on all systems
asciilifeform: tbh i do not have a clear picture of what use a trb-on-mac might be to anyone, given as the thing needs to be up 24/7 for any practical battlefield value
asciilifeform: iirc he also had a mac patch
asciilifeform: phf: in principle it ought to work on bsd etc. but will shit out a linux binary, unless you were to fiddle with it rather heavily. but i do not see why to do this.
asciilifeform: buildroot as i used it here, was a pill against drepperism
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-01#1575340 << buildroot exclusively generates linux binaries, so any bsd build has to be done manually. but fwiw my openbsd patch still works and still produces a working trb ☝︎
shinohai: Yes I haven't done much with it yet besides verify the bitcoind snarfs blocks and that the flag produces a message
trinque: a ok
asciilifeform: trinque: ty. but this is a pre-order, the actual widgets have not left factory yet.
asciilifeform: likely there is also certain amount of 'here's a button, what happens if i press'
shinohai: I have a whole btctalk thread regarding peoples lack of following simple instructions.
asciilifeform: lel but you don't need a key of your own
shinohai: Maybe they need an rng to generate a key first. >.>
asciilifeform: (this is a ЕГГОГ and does 0 but shows up in a lulzlog)
asciilifeform: 'Eusip Bvba is the independent and autonomous company behind the projects RACK66 and former projects as Thunderbox and FragFun. The company was founded in 2003 by Internetpioneers who know the market very well and felt the need for a new kind of concept for services as: hosting, housing, managed services, pre installed servers and online gaming....'
asciilifeform: http://65.111.164.90/apache2-default/ << lel, 'what shall i do today... oh, i know, build a box with DIDDLED DEBIAN and then leave it running on DEFAULT knobs!111 for years'
mircea_popescu: my mind's eye foresees a time when all comms will consist of this. gossipd over irc!
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 01:01 adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-30#1575187 << first log appearance for this, led me to http://www.the-programmers-stone.com/about which makes two preposterous claims in one sentence before i've even scrolled down once: "I discovered that (almost) everyone can become a super-programmer, and with a crew of super-programmers, gelled teams form up naturally."
mircea_popescu: "Whenever I got a team ready to be really useful, there would be a bizarre negative reaction from all sorts of other people who were employed within the same organizations, but were not part of the teams I was working with. Sometimes this effect was so strong it could become a workplace hazard, and it always grew until the teams themselves were no longer able to function." <<< mediocrity is not a lack of intelligence, it is i
mircea_popescu: still a good candidate for the next city's hill.
mircea_popescu: bullshit btcc pool "oh we'll be creative and send 2.5 cents to a buncha addresses" psssh.
jhvh1: 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
mircea_popescu: " I thought just moving your mouse or doing something on the computer already fills up /dev/random, and it's only a big problem on major servers. Is this not right?" << there's a SHOCKING amount of this. nsa's doing god's work with these people, absolutely.
mod6: haha, i certainly will. probably wont be order for a day or so... think you'll have enough to meet the demand?
mircea_popescu: "he's not really a monkey, he's just a sarin gas peddler"
mircea_popescu: "learn about seattle" ? this whole "educating" libertard bullshit. it's not a town see, it's a seattle, you gotta "learn about windows" lest you approach it with reasonable expectations and methodologies. o no, you gotta first fuck your head into a seattleshape.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-01#1575383 << btw >> http://blackbox.poly.edu/geni/html/login >> 'SeattleGENI is now the Seattle Clearinghouse. New to Seattle? We suggest you first learn about Seattle before using Clearinghouse, a resource sharing website.' ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'I thought that /dev/random (as opposed to /dev/urandom) was already based on entropy from physical noise, as recorded by sensors (I think including mouse, keyboard and temperature). Sounds like they're trying to make a big deal out of addressing a theoretical vulnerability, which is irrelevant in practice.' << glorious
garmin: hi all... testing my pocket chip micro... fat figering a micro qwerty ;-p
asciilifeform: as for tanks , i got stuck behind one in traffic (no, not hallucinating, it was on a flatbed as it ought to be.) this used to be more common sight. but as i understand they are not making so many new ones, the 1 (yes 1) factory in ohio is laying off hands
mircea_popescu: takes a whole lotta ipads to make one tank.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-30#1575228 << Mental obsession and physical allergy combine to create a profound physical and spiritual sickness. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: adlai it's not entirely evident to me that average intelligence person could not make excellent programmer. contrary to the "consensus" on the topic, programming is much more a matter of not being dumb than of being "creative"
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:01 asciilifeform: (postscript is, approximately, a hypertrophied forth)
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-30#1575048 << I'm actually rather surprised there isn't a generic scrypt shitcoin miner in postscript for the Printernet of Things ☝︎
mod6: and mainly there is so much other non-infrastructure related work to do, i think that's taking a back-seat unless someone steps up to work on it and contribute.
shinohai thinks a bsd version should be added to how-to in future
shinohai: This may be the best story I have seen all day: Former gay porn actor turned German spy arrested for secretly being a Jihadist http://archive.is/9SQqY ☟︎
adlai: what i can't fathom is this fetish all the teachers have for writing content by hand in realtime, rather than clicking a button and having a computer instantly display a legible, proofread, typeset, etc version
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:38 phf: programmer's stone made a point long time ago that you need to be really fucking relaxed to write quality code
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-30#1575187 << first log appearance for this, led me to http://www.the-programmers-stone.com/about which makes two preposterous claims in one sentence before i've even scrolled down once: "I discovered that (almost) everyone can become a super-programmer, and with a crew of super-programmers, gelled teams form up naturally." ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: jurov yes, the problem is not well solved and not evidently solvable, but this doesn't make it not a problem.
gabriel_laddel: jurov: patch it and share with WOT. If it cannot be fixed, make a note of it and distribute.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 00:10 trinque: it strikes me that there is a perversity in "serving a man in your own way"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-01#1575277 << perversity yes ; and a greater measure of stupidity. ☝︎
trinque: what a misunderstood item that was
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I envision 1. masamune is self-hosting, with the ability to replicate itself onto a livecd containing all sources used to build it, that can then produce like replicants. 2. no more updates to ALGOL systems, ever, given that all the sources needed for the lisp environment are self-contained. 3. A CLIM system manager that abstracts ov
trinque: it strikes me that there is a perversity in "serving a man in your own way" ☟︎
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i must also retreat to a dark room to do 'unsexy and necessary' per mircea_popescu's formula, long-needed job, so bbl.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:21 mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel i'd loot a lot more than 10s of mns if i found a way to reliably get people to do the things that need done rather than the sexy things they want to do BEFORE they are old enough for their active life to be mostly behind them.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel any schedule you make that doesn't include a fixed time to get pubkey is for that reason unusable ; throw it out and re-do.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: do you envision the 'unix nonsense' retreating into an airtight balloon that you have made for it, through sheer force of will ? to kill it in a staring concept ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in libertard cosmography, 'influence' is not a thing that one wields because smarter, stronger, or having more accurate model of reality, but because blessed by satan
trinque: "hey man can I like, take a shower in your hotel room?"
phf: gabriel_laddel: well this is my avocation, so hacking on hemlock and installing masamune in sfo is cost equivalent. i'd make a trip just as a mini vacation, i'll see when's the closest i can swing it ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'd genuinely like to know how it came to be that 'get cocaine' came to rank above 'get pubkey' , 'get postbox' , 'get a flat' in gabriel_laddel's head
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 21:25 trinque: at any rate, if I were to invest time in climacs, that is time stolen from learning osdev to put a lisp interpreter on iron, which is time stolen from learning to fab silicon in a garage, which is time stolen from ...
shinohai: With a spiffy new website, it shows "development" being done AND NOT LOST CAUSE!
trinque: ben_vulpes can confirm that I saw that one directly, with a former boss / drunk.
gabriel_laddel: fly out to SFO, bring a computer and we'll install masamune.
gabriel_laddel: And how much is a plane ticket to SFO and back?
asciilifeform: i had glass of milk not long ago, and did not pay a cow iirc.
mircea_popescu: that centimetre is a length of log, nothing else.
mircea_popescu: nobody is ever a centimetre short of cracking anything.
trinque: the conceit is that you're always a centimeter away
gabriel_laddel: it isn't even a hard problem, just tedious.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: let's put it this way -- I used cocaine, meth etc etc from 16-20 constantly, then not at all for 4+ years. Idk if that is disciplined or what, but I don't appear to have a problem with it, know what it does to me and think it would improve my current situation.
phf: programmer's stone made a point long time ago that you need to be really fucking relaxed to write quality code ☟︎
trinque: all it's going to do is make some foolhardy thing seem like A WICKED SWEET IDEA BRAH
phf: i wouldn't code on coke, or amphetamines for that matter, that hyperactivity narrows down your periphery thinking, which results in a lot of drawn out code
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: yet. I end up going through these cycles where caffeine works to stave off sleep, then it doesn't, then I end up sleeping on a couch for 3 days, 12-14 hours a day.
gabriel_laddel: right now I consume ~pot of coffee a day.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I have been a little busy to generate a new key in an unsecure manner. It is on "the list"
mircea_popescu: political history of lua / petro-brazil is a worthy pit to dig for the amateur cyber-historian of republican perspective.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 21:22 asciilifeform: i've wondered if he doesn't have a secret and dire problem with dope or similar.
asciilifeform: it does not bother gabriel_laddel to be a ghost ? with no flesh ?
gabriel_laddel: trinque: the only way to distribute software is as a full self-hosting linux that can generate livecds of itself.
asciilifeform: sometimes, a generation later, even.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel i'd loot a lot more than 10s of mns if i found a way to reliably get people to do the things that need done rather than the sexy things they want to do BEFORE they are old enough for their active life to be mostly behind them. ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: people have blown hundreds of millions trying to make a "gui builder" atop QT, the web, swing etc.
asciilifeform: if gabriel_laddel wants 10mil for a proggy that segfaults, he oughta move to washington
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: yeah, will post in a few minutes. I am pretty sure that it is because a dependency that does not show up in lddtree --list is required.
mircea_popescu: that sounds like a lot of fun.