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nubbins`: having a brutal time installing ubuntu on this netbook
decimation: that's likely the case, I agree.
Duffer1: but not as valuable as just buying btc and holding for that same perior
decimation: only if the manufacturer's stock were denominated in bitcoin
decimation: If btc surprises to the upside again, then mining might be retrospectively valuable
Duffer1: maybe if you owned stock in the manufacturer you'd do well
Apocalyptic: and so far i think it's holding bitcoin that is most profitable
decimation: well, mining and gambling in bitcoin come to mind
decimation: This seems to be the central question of bitcoin finance.
decimation: Assuming btc continues to become more valuable at its current rate, what capital activity will return more future value than simply holding Bitcoin?
Apocalyptic: Namworld is taking ages...
Apocalyptic: that's the thing, i can't
truffles: click my name u can see the match
Apocalyptic: i'm talking about our game
Apocalyptic: my only sane move is to take the rook, and I lose the queen at the next move
truffles: not visualizing that game
Apocalyptic: my queen cannot move before it would expose my king to direct check from your rook
Apocalyptic: see for yourself, but it's a typical tactic called pin
truffles: u think so?
Apocalyptic: if I took the night you would win my queen
Apocalyptic: it was a bait truffles
Apocalyptic: anyway since I took the knight i just had to trade to ensure a clear win
Apocalyptic: <truffles> u missed that 1 :D
Apocalyptic: dat fork truffles
decimation: Most fiat companies use buybacks to pump up the stock price as ceo's sell their own shares
decimation: Buffet is a famous dividend hater. Partially because of dividend tax treatment in the US, and partially because he believes in reinvesting in the company or buying back shares.
Namworld: I'm back truffles, sorry
truffles: u missed that 1 :D
Apocalyptic: I could if you were there
Apocalyptic: you should see me on the friend tab
Apocalyptic: go to live chess
truffles: how do u add time to it
Apocalyptic: hum I actually have some decent ratings there
truffles: havent figured out this yet
Apocalyptic: what's your nick truffles ?
truffles: well u have to go to live chess to get the timers
truffles: either namworld is thinking or disconnected :(
truffles: obv not this moment
truffles: wanna play timed ?
Apocalyptic: i feel like playing chess tonight
truffles: gonna try not to make noob mistake for future challengers
BingoBoingo: I believe as long as there is someting verifiable it should be good.
truffles: Namworld still thinks this chess.com game will be valid :D
Namworld: No. Do they provide replays of games?
truffles: typing things by hand so
Namworld: The moves will be accurate and the same for each
Namworld: Start again with http://www.caissa.com/chess-tools/pgn-editor.php to track moves
nubbins`: whoever is white should be numbering their moves
nubbins`: the ruling is that you guys roll back a few moves and get your shit together
truffles: so what is the ruling on that
truffles: oh i shouldve typed Ba4?
truffles: cant take my bishop yet?
Namworld: I'll try to speed up
truffles: im sick n tired of these slow movers
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nubbins`: ;;google you know what they say about hope
nubbins`: you know what they say about hope
truffles: so uh i hope there isnt intermission in this
nubbins`: first of that type, anyway
Namworld: Make some nice gifs of the games
Namworld: I use this: http://www.caissa.com/chess-tools/pgn-editor.php
Namworld: I take blacks
Namworld: Erhm I mean I get to
nubbins`: so i sold a 0.5btc casascius coin for 6btc earlier today
Namworld: You get to choose the side you want
nubbins`: sometimes i suspect ;;coin is just ;;echo tails
Namworld: gribble can toss a coin
Namworld: We can play live right here in this channel
Namworld: ah, paper book. Too bad.
mircea_popescu: Namworld well now i don't know, i read the stuff in a paper book a while ago. lettuce see
BingoBoingo: lats timer?
truffles: boingo if u hit "go live" at chess.com it lets timer
Namworld: Ok, if you play against 2 other players too in the tournament
Namworld: Well there's a tournament
truffles: doesnt have to be in tourny
BingoBoingo: Namworld: Well, you v truffles
Namworld: I did the first game with BingoBoingo
Namworld: I still want to complete that chess tournament
Namworld: Buffett's comments on the topic
kakobrekla: ;;later tell mike_c yes.
Duffer1: when uncle sam is paying there's always some asshole chargint them double
Namworld: Comments? Is there readily availabe sources to read about that?
mircea_popescu: somehow "distribute it" never comes to mind. a problem fiat shares, for that matter. (buffett has some great comments on the topic)
mircea_popescu: it has a better risk profile for the bitcoin investor than the alternative (if you review the early history of btc scams, 2011s, you'll see most corps turned scams once the "ceo" confronted the problem of "we have cashflow. what to do with that cash ?". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic the "zero asset" thing is a term of art. a company that retains none of its income but distributes it all as dividends.
Duffer1: professional grade trolling right there
Duffer1: "Actually useful websites like crypto-trade or havelock as well as coloured coins will continue to gain traction as this shitty scheme dies out."
Apocalyptic: pankkake, because in their mind there is no way they could ever be wrong
pankkake: and those guys defend scams to the death
pankkake: I have my opinion, and I'm going to say dumb shit till the end
pankkake: but the complete refusal to understand what things are…
pankkake: that's not really bothering me. I wouldn't pay the 30 BTC fee myself, nor do I desire to hold MPOE
Apocalyptic: "Usually a holding company is an asset-less company" what, I thought a holding company holds share of other companies, which are classified as assets
diametric: pankkake: this thread is amazing. i just started reading back through the posts on it.
Apocalyptic: according to http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071005223326AAxjjiN it's related to a holding company, weird
Apocalyptic: <pankkake> well then is there such a thing as a zero asset company? // how would you define it ?
Apocalyptic: yeah was thinking about that exact formulation
mike_c: i better term might be "zero tangible assets company", but that is a mouthful.
ozbot: Accounting for the nonzero asset corporation. The MPEx standard. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Pope
mike_c: i possibly made up that term as a differentiator from mp's "nonzero asset corporation"