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dub: lawyers might argue that
as well
dub: its simpler than that,
as soon
as there is a dispute (e.g. someone tries to claim twice) everyone is fucked
BTC-Mining: Chaang was demanding Nefario to be tagged
as a scammer and was uncooperative.
BTC-Mining: So Chaang understood it
as owning GLBSE and decided to buy shares.
dub: I own 1 DMC and a soon
as someone pays me one million btc for it, im out
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I calculated it
as >800
guruvan: hmm...good point (can't
as easily.....though it could happen, but then it's a game of who ever has the most funds wins)
dub: jurov: I'll take
as many rolls
as needed to print all of LoupGaroux, or whatever that fuckwits name is, posts
jcpham: i like t print out forum threads
as toilet paper
BTC-Mining:
As such, getting such low dividends...
OneEyed: I think it will need to be stressed more,
as some people will expect the exact amount
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OneEyed: mircea_popescu: ok, so they could get away with 3 days maybe, so 1/10th of the monthly bets, or 1/5th of the average profit. Might be enough
as a scam though.
DeaDTerra: It was
as high
as 1.38 then we had tons of defaults and bad investments.
OneEyed: DeaDTerra: I have had the occasion to tell you already, but I'll say it again a last time: I've not been lucky with my investment, but you were very nice
as a manager, and for this I thank you
Diablo-D3: DeaDTerra: so that 1 BTC I invested, what did it end up coming out
as?
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mircea_popescu: and
as such im not doing it. if client doesn't trust broker client doesn't use broker.
OneEyed: BTC-Mining: yes, but it forces you to reveal your portfolio,
as underlined by copumpkin
OneEyed: usagi: such a protocol should be submitted to
as many pair of eyes
as possible
copumpkin: so you don't have to reveal your entire holdings to your clients,
as a broker
OneEyed: usagi: the problem with GLBSE and MPEX is that they act
as a broker, in addition to being an exchange.
As long
as they don't keep an outside copy of the up-to-date investors portfolios, they disappearing make their investors broke
BTC-Mining: Difference is, FDBF would have losses
as soon
as any holding they have a loss of value. BTC-BOND would not.
OneEyed: How much you want (MIN/MAX), for how long, and what you're ready to pay
as interests for the loan
mircea_popescu: i would regard him
as being in default for it tho, and neg rate
mircea_popescu: you lack any verbiage
as to the important points : 1. how are claims decided ; 2. how are people prevented from buying insurance on themselves and default.
Eisenhower34: that was the idea, but
as it has already been pointed out several times its a CDS
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OneEyed: Eisenhower34: sure :) And it's true that it will be much more easy to conceal once they have delivered some ASICs,
as they will be harder to identify.
Eisenhower34: micea You know the answer yourself... and you should know that you cannot really compare asig TH scale iwth GPU GH scale, same
as you couldnt compare GPU <-> CPU MH scales
OneEyed: (I'm not talking about the future, I'm talking about the timeframe from May to now that you took
as an example)
OneEyed: The fact that you seem to consider a gain
as a loss because when you convert to USD (which is not everyone's currency btw) this shows a gain?
BTC-Mining: Or I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure you tagged them
as scammers numerous times.
BTC-Mining: Usagi, DMC, etc. Scamming is technically the willingful conning of money for keeping it for yourself. In their case you believe they are incompetent which is not willingful or taking money for themselve, yet still go around tagging them
as scammers.
BTC-Mining: But true enough, some OP dismiss anything other than "Let me give you all my money"
as trolling.
BTC-Mining: EskimoBob, although most people who present facts/ask questions are often dismissed
as troll on the forum. In your case, it's kind of understandable. Incompetence is not equal to scamming and you keep harassing people
as scammers when you believe they are incompetent.
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mircea_popescu: i wou;dnt go
as far
as that, but for sure there's a ton of misbehaviour
mircea_popescu: "afaik he considers his wife
as an asset" ahahaha the ppl on the forum
Diablo-D3: anyhow, I may just buy back
as much dmc
as possible and see where we're at after that
guruvan: but not
as bad
as trusting eveyone :D
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 this vetting problem becomes very serious now,
as he refuses to vet SOME people.
knotwork: mostly trying to figure out how much of what such a contract would have to take into its internal variables
as collateral to be sure it can pay out come payout time
knotwork: ok good.
as what I am trying to figure out is generic code for asset A and asset B calls and puts for any A and B
knotwork: but if you are agnostic about assets,
as Open Transactions is, any asset can be used to buy any other asset
knotwork: since most places have one asset they think of
as "money" and all other assets are "commodities" or "foreign currencies" to buy and sell with prices expressed in the "local favourite"
knotwork: BTC-Mining well for eample if you buy from me a put entitling you to put 10 IBM for 1 AAPL on certain date, isnt that the same
as buying a call entitling you to buy 1 AAPL for 10 IBM at that same date?
knotwork: well if you obligate me to buy X at a cetrain price
as denominated in Y, isnt that the same
as obligating me to sell Y to you at a certain price denominated in X ?
knotwork_: Are puts and calls both actually the exact same thing with the pair reversed? So e.g. a USD/BTC put is equally referrable to
as a BTC/USD call?
BTC-Mining: Erhm, you're not a deposit taker
as far
as I know?
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knotwork_: its hard to believe they are serious if they don't even merged mine
as they thus deliberately leave money on the table
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rg: you dont pay, fine,
as long
as its worth your knee cap
smickles: well, does anyone have some btc 'on' GLBSE so
as to facilitate a quick deposit for me?
mircea_popescu:
as in, put buys in 5% or 10% under what you get for the shares on mpex
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OneEyed: And I also totally agree that if there was a default, then you should pay the shareholders directly, not Ian Bakewell,
as per the contract.