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asciilifeform: i have this vague memory of 'raganwald' appearing in-chan, but apparently not
a111: Logged on 2018-08-17 13:53 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in other shoelace-and-gum copies of tmsr artifacts, http://edgecase.net/pages/how_to_buy_edgecase_credits << d00d with a kinda blog, tried to copy mircea_popescu's old paid-articles scheme (spoiler : dunwork) -- ( http://edgecase.net has coupla possibly-interesting items, compiler-wranglings, translations of old lit, btc tx likbez of sorts, etc )
mircea_popescu: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-17#1842466 : http://braythwayt.com/2013/10/04/the-freedom-to-pay-thirty-bux.html (meanwhile at https://github.com/raganwald/braythwayt.com/blob/gh-pages/_posts/2013-10-04-the-freedom-to-pay-thirty-bucks.md because, in the derp's own words, "i am an imbecile".) ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( 1-deep archivator suffers from , for instance, the misery of 'paged' texts. you get snapshot of page 9001, and... oops , the rest evaporated. etc )
asciilifeform: lessee what the veteran www-wranglers ( trinque ? ben_vulpes ? ) say about this.
asciilifeform: you'll want linkable passages, trilema-style, at all depths
mircea_popescu: no need for n deep. just save copy of the item linked.
asciilifeform: and get at the unadorned text easily.
asciilifeform: where it is possible to e.g. cleanly parse N-deep linkage.
mircea_popescu: and mp-wp hjas a special folder for this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on 'conventional' www this reduces to 'munge the shitstack' problem, afaik still not satisfactorily solved ( and i dun expect a solution ). gotta have remake of www.
mircea_popescu: god knows the logbot auto-archival is wunderbar.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you feel like patching mp-wp to do just this, i'd very much run it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought whole point of the elaborate electrical echafaudage were , to try an' get around these headaches
asciilifeform: troo hyper-document oughta contain snapshots of all linkage. ( sure if external entity updates, viewer can be offered later ver, at ~his~ discretion. but oughta preserve linked material at time of linkage, the era of 'disk costs too much to store human text' went long ago) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tis the fate of classical text, whadda ya want
asciilifeform: this item , with '9000' others, is well illustrative of the idiocy of the whole idea of the purely external link
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu this thing is ~100% molded.
asciilifeform: i think i misparsed 'half molded' lol
asciilifeform: council of trent -- dead
asciilifeform: holyfuq even 'canterbury tales' has deadlinx
asciilifeform: lotsa lotsa broken linx tho, e.g. 'Alpamysh, a Central Asian, Turkic epic, [At ukc.ac.uk] and here [At Kansas] ' -- both dead
mircea_popescu: in other items of perhaps interest to the medievalist, https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/sbook2.asp
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ok to re-emplace disk and power up 'A' , plox to signal when powered.
asciilifeform: lulzy, btw, by all indications box was not touched since end of may
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: can go eat, i'ma reflash disk, will take <1hr.
asciilifeform: so then approx пиздня
mircea_popescu: (this being the ur-case. older, and no doubt the model for the others)
mircea_popescu: right. but no, in ro -et is collective noun derivative. storfet, the group of cheap whores, from stoarfa, cheap whore.
asciilifeform: hm then not same
mircea_popescu: it's pizdet, an animal collective term for young females. ~cattle.
mircea_popescu: but it is genuinely fun -- even if it doesn't seem so to the victim in the moment, it does retrospectively.
mircea_popescu: this is not at all that far off. i do a lot of that.
asciilifeform: i picture the camera pov as that of hogtied prisoner derp, and mircea_popescu whispers 'you dun even know what fun lies ahead'
asciilifeform: i like with the teeth.
mircea_popescu: i actually like the ones with girls, myself.
asciilifeform: best trilemabanner to date , btw, imho
mircea_popescu: o i c ty
Mocky: mircea_popescu, in the latest trilema piece I can't resolve the selection at the "ammends"(sic) link: http://trilema.com/2014/maramu/#selection-161.1-165.92
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-sovereign-power-of-the-republic/ << Trilema - The sovereign power of The Republic
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ack, caffinating and then heading over
Mocky: when I went opened comp this morning half expected chat window to be flashing with with ping "bot dun work!"
a111: Logged on 2018-08-19 16:51 BingoBoingo: <mod6> BingoBoingo: Tomorrow (the 20th) you may arrage the nuke/pave of mircea_popescu's rented rockchip with asciilifeform. << Aite
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-19#1842911 << BingoBoingo plox to do as we did with prev rk, put the disk in dulap and ping asciilifeform when did. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: jesus the idiocy.
ben_vulpes: mod6: ty
BingoBoingo: In the shitware files https://archive.is/PZ1vV
mod6: ben_vulpes: mimi went to lunch.
Mocky: dude was ultra focused on the generic usefulness
mircea_popescu: i can see the "Since we've done the work" angle.
Mocky: there's just not a method that returns only bool , he insists on returning some additional potentially useful info that was gathered
Mocky: there are still ways to do it, e.g. with the count method, you have to test for count < 1.
mircea_popescu: i could think of other reasons though. what happens if i want to see if you're voiced ? check the voiced set for you neh ? then if you're not included i trash your line.
Mocky: so instead the interface as methods that keep track of the info for the tasks you actually want to do
Mocky: the only reason to use contains() is to follow up and do something else, like add or remove. but if you do those things you have to repeat all the work of contains() contains throws out all the info
mircea_popescu: what was the logic ?
BingoBoingo: <mod6> BingoBoingo: Tomorrow (the 20th) you may arrage the nuke/pave of mircea_popescu's rented rockchip with asciilifeform. << Aite ☟︎
Mocky: i was trying to figure out what madness was behind an stl <set> not having a 'contains()' method, and turns out designer isn't dumb after all
Mocky: apparently stepanoff wrote the generic list processing for Ada but saw that c++ would be more popular so then wrote stl as researcher at HP
Mocky: standard template library for c++
Mocky: when stepanoff starts talking about a guy who writes 77k lines of code and earns a raise, should instead get a $77M fine, i started listening more closely
mod6: BingoBoingo: Tomorrow (the 20th) you may arrage the nuke/pave of mircea_popescu's rented rockchip with asciilifeform.
mircea_popescu: a, feel free to reclaim it./
mircea_popescu: which rockchip is thios mod6 ?
Mocky: talks about how his son came to him for help with stl homeowrk, and he's like 'i'm not dealing with that 5 pages of compile errors'
mod6: Mocky: I'll have to take a look at that
Mocky: guy seems very differnt from stroustrup. talks about all the bad shit with the good
mod6: mircea_popescu: just a reminder, today is the last day paid up through for your Rockchip. Let us know if you want to renew or not. Otherwise, if there is anything you want to copy off of the Rockchip itself (files, whatever), have until tomorrow.
Mocky: mod6, i actually feel way better about the stl stuff now after watching alex stepanoff talk about his creation for an hour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COuHLky7E2Q
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/scar-tissue-where-law-used-to-be/ << Trilema - Scar tissue where Law used to be.
Mocky: afaik it was in c++ that the angle bracket template syntax was first used. mustta had no choice what with all the other brackets taken, but still way to go interfering with >> operator
Mocky: compiler knows *exactly* what I want and emits it... except to the error stream instead of the output
shinohai: Hey BingoBoingo, did I already show you that blackgirlscode meets shitcoins I found ?
Mocky: c++ is a shitshow, I swear to god: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/PLjAM/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: why ty.
BingoBoingo: Sausage is one of those things like painting for art, it's got some room for creativity.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i regard the matter of sausage as solved matter, by the germans, pre fucking the better germans (also known as jewz). say 1880s or so.
BingoBoingo: Discounting USG deployments this Uruguay trip might be the longest out of the wire in two or three generations
BingoBoingo: Fuck me, by grandpa's generation my ancestors were already trapped. One did Korea, the other did Burma
mircea_popescu: hm, did i even recount that ? kid goes to moscow to have a good time, like grandfather ?
mircea_popescu: i'd have said "go to munich sometime", but sadly this kinda ended. "go to munich with radetzky", as per the pilsudski story.
BingoBoingo: My own corner of the reich nuevo was a coarse meat sausage kinda corner
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well, sausagefest mostly a bayern & neighbours affair. the prussians tended to smoke a lot.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is the geopolitical lesson of all time : in that they did preserve intellectual and personal freedom, the germans failed to produce a "french crown" so they ended up demographically sucked up and re-packaged by one of the peripheral french crown usurpers.
BingoBoingo: Living in the Middle West I saw many different kinds of German exile community
BingoBoingo: I doubt all germans were cool. Maybe just the Prussians?
mircea_popescu: but yes, zee germanz were a lot cooler before they crossed the pond started calling themselves "americans".
mircea_popescu: just because your intermediate-new country lost most of the traditions of old country in its quest to be acceptable by the god-on-a-hill dun mean they weren't there.
mircea_popescu: hahaha of course they are.
mircea_popescu: what do you think frankfurters were.
BingoBoingo: I'm kind of surprised old country failed to invent the salchica and throw the whole thing on one bun
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, seriously, eat well but work out. don't turn into one of the local married galz.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-18 22:49 mircea_popescu: it came to be because if the ministry of provisioning takes a vacation, the zeks'll just return tomorrow.
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-18#1842839 evidently this is so: http://archive.is/yMAJ0#selection-2853.0-2853.351 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Seriously Imma have to put myself on a diet or get serious about fitness. I can't outwalk all the choripan... which is somehow more fattening when I make it myself
BingoBoingo: I've had steak once in this kitchen and I am getting fat off of chorizo, morcilla, and mortadella (for piglet)
BingoBoingo: Related: Rio Platense folks get a lot of credit for their beef and cheese, but their pork sausage... Divine
BingoBoingo: Because Lopez actually held out for quite some time
BingoBoingo: Lopez pissed off ALL Paraguay's neighbors, leading to the bonding excercise this continent is afraid to repeat
BingoBoingo: It only gets lulzier from there.