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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if disk failure is the concern
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can backup to the larger box, neh
asciilifeform: mod6, mircea_popescu : it was my understanding that mircea_popescu & diana_coman wanted a test bed, and will eventually swap back to orig s.mg box; so not clear if the spare needs a full adult raid
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: google translator is pretty much same 1970s lultron as produced 'the vodka is tasty but the meat -- rotten' from 'spirit is willing but flesh is weak', famously
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: translates ok, as i currently see it , even to jp ( but asciilifeform would not yet undertake such a thing )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you'll find that ro translates, generally, cleanly, to ru
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neh, 'put forth to yourself'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'представьте себе...'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'what's washing' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: elisp is a roughly microshit-quality product.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:35 mircea_popescu: for a simple example, the default state is, "userbase rejects your merge" rather than "everyone please upgrade". that should give a decent idea of the flavour.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:31 mircea_popescu: i suppose i should translate that thing. unless anyone wants to practice their rofu first ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:04 mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, is why the pantsuit hate the "new right" or whatever they call it. all they see is the zimmerman-paddock party and get hives.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 20:52 mircea_popescu: it's not "oh, errybody has a rotten plank or two keeping'em afloat." it's "oh, everybody ~can manifest matter by will~, currently everybody hanging off the bare minimum rotten plank and they're not even COMPARED".
trinque: mircea_popescu: nah "gab"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doubt that it's so specific; afaik they see it as simply a large underground bag into which they've driven errything with even half a ball remaining, 'could do anyffing!1'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most of the reported 'postal' derps to date seem to follow this pattern
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the pot dealer is even an extinct species these days; gotta go buy fentanyl to make friends now
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta the thrust behind the recent trend of 'pot legalizations' in usa -- succeeded in neutering the healthiest of the blackmarkets ( something like 1 in 5 zeks in usa, regularly pot )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so far seems like they know that fence is electrified, mostly stayed off
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 16:15 mircea_popescu: in other-same lulz, usg amping up the "upgrading" of "secure" http sites off the interwebs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc bci et al have started doing segshitness
Mocky: mircea_popescu, wooshing across 4 lanes in sub second is my kind of fun, I do this ~daily on motorcycle
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but yes, this is how empires die. "yes we're aware this would sail right off if driven through in 3 feet of water, but the car's not rated for driving through 3 feet of water so it's ok." "right, but then the ramp that's not rated for flooding will flood, because etcetera in this vein, and there you are." << AHA, this happened to the plasticar
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where do the donkey riders cross ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite troo. tho gelandewagen-style fat, synchronous wheels still better for drowned roads than autobahn limo.
asciilifeform: sounds like mircea_popescu lives in gelandewagen country
asciilifeform: twist : http://www.dukw.com/dkramp.gif is mircea_popescu's car
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: prolly you oughta test this experimentally, might be pleasantly surprised.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the main q is not re how many, but whether there is an 'emacs'-like boojum among'em. buildroot will just as happily build 9000 deps as 1.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu , in one of his essays, described how gurlz from nato reich who enlist in his harem sometimes suffer from the effects of fat-soluble poisons, which accumulated in their meat, as the fat burns up in exercise. there is a similar malady suffered by escapees from 'open sores' world on those occasions when they show up here. the toxins gotta work their way out.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had asked asciilifeform not to meddle in euolorological matters, so i'ma stop here, unless all of you somehow get stuck and he asks for specific puzzler to be sent to my operating table.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 20:37 mircea_popescu: and so it is here : if gets away without cuntoo, will try, if not, with.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 16:46 mircea_popescu: which brings us to : ben_vulpes would pizarro be amenable to bring up the spare sometime so she makes it a full gnat musl thing, test whether we can move everything there, and either move it (so basically, moving servers) or else backing down (so basically i guess either renting both for a while or powerting back down the spare) ?
a111: Logged on 2015-10-03 19:56 mircea_popescu: ascii_field as the verse goes, "comunismu-ntii te-ajuta, tac tac tac, si apoi te executa, pac pac pac."
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 17:04 mircea_popescu: none of this is an emergency, still some issues to fix as i said.
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mircea_popescu if you need this box asap, it is possible to pull the hot spare from primary and make a single-disked staging box out of the spare.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, diana_coman which linking issues ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: out of curiosity, was the initial test of adatronic serv on rockchip ? how did it perform ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 17:13 mircea_popescu: what's actually the usercount ? spyked ? esthlos ? ave1 ? jurov ?
phf: mircea_popescu: but no check out liliput, https://www.modellbahnwelt24.de/Liliput-3
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes!
esthlos: to be fair to egan, the actual supposition is not that consciousness exists "in" computer, but that it has a mathematical representation. not that it affects mircea_popescu 's point
esthlos: mircea_popescu: I have not. gotta add it to the list
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 03:52 mircea_popescu: did we ever do http://www.drdobbs.com/architecture-and-design/interview-with-alan-kay/240003442?pgno=1 btw ?
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't know if there's a definition, "idea" would've been a better term. in any case i've never heard anything concrete, except for the papert/piaget/montessori like esthlos said statements.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i doubt there's what knows how to use a slut on that campus
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://pbfcomics.com/comics/shocked/ << oblig
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it's all the poor dears know
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this item is similar to the last gasp of su comp makers, the iskra 286 , 100% orc except for the intel chip ( last su-indigenous clone was afaik 8086 )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised at what survived untouched in some dusty shithole
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aa makes sense. i assumed you were speaking of clones -- orig. 16f never made it as far east as my orcistan
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ( and lulzily i had the very same serialport programmator described in your link )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aaaa you meant the ~actual~ taiwanese pic16, not orcistani micros
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 17:13 mircea_popescu: what's actually the usercount ? spyked ? esthlos ? ave1 ? jurov ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you happen to recall exactly what you had ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: very tellingly, there were afaik 0 great gamez made for mk-85 , despite the latter featuring a pdp11-compat chipset ( in, forfuckssake, a pocket calc!! runinng on , what, 20 milliamp ) and rom basic
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perversely-counterposed, http://pbfcomics.com/comics/small-man/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: believe or not, mk61 was a troo breakthrough, a computer (of sorts) that could be actually mass-produced in orcistan. buncha folx did their physics dissertation models on the thing, even
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 19:22 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on account of 40 yrs of os braindamage, folx often confuse what they want , in that they think they want multithread, but really want nonblockage
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 19:35 mircea_popescu: to put it more stringently, "if your machine dumping core doesn't produce an emacs session, why aren't you using dos again ?"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what, 'greasemonkey' no longer worx on 'modern browser' ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 19:45 mircea_popescu: leaving this briefly aside, consider the idiocy of "traditional" linux stack. there's a... wm, running x11 ; and in it you load a ... browser... which does it's own windows management (now called tabs).
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 05:00 mircea_popescu: https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/04/29/yet-another-gtk-update/ for the entomologist ; one luzy moment in the endless stream of idiocy that is 3rd millenium foss.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 18:52 mircea_popescu can definitely see the "i do not expect my terminal to do background tasks, that's what the servers are for. i don't have separable pairs of eyes"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on account of 40 yrs of os braindamage, folx often confuse what they want , in that they think they want multithread, but really want nonblockage ☟︎
phf: mircea_popescu: do you mean should the editor perform all kinds of functions in parallel?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same way errybody loses ancient arts. by overwriting the parchments and wax tablets, by neglect, by 'surely won't need this again', lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, hence thread
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you dun do it in emacs, tho, afaik ?
phf: mircea_popescu: see if i think that version secretly reveals how how many of the comforts of "modern" emacs we want to sacrifice, and likewise nails down the wants
phf: mircea_popescu: it's not, but as the mail trinque linked points out "the right solution requires a significant overhaul by someone with expertise in emacs internal"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was an ugly hack around the horrendously slow interpreted elisp
phf: mircea_popescu: the emacs headache on musl that asciilifeform mentioned
asciilifeform: slightly upstack -- even if mircea_popescu were to proclaim 'we gotta have climacs', ~100% of the work will be done ~in~... emacs
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it ain't intractable, and ranks substantially below, resource-wise, e.g. replacement of gcc
phf: mircea_popescu: i get it, i'm being sloppy because i want it to be obvious that the box is indeed pandora's box
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was always the Right Thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: answ is, it's about on par with quickbasic in re syntax, memory utilization, stability.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is the q 'why not write major proggies in elisp ' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: slime is an emacs 'mode' for working with commonlisp.
trinque: mircea_popescu: depends on whether c-o to switch windows is cosmic truth or finger length / hand shape
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: climacs was above a momentary wad of spit, a quite substantial amount of work was sunk into it. but it did not add up to something that can be used.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a stillborn thing, afaik.
trinque: mircea_popescu: because I don't want to discuss with anyone how my own private desk is arranged
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was the philosophy that produced 'climacs', an ab initio rewrite. which afaik ~nobody uses.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: emacs is a 'modal' system, i.e. every programming language gets a mode, implemented as a set of elisp proggies, that completely changes the behaviour of the editor to (ideally) make it entirely suited to writing that particular form of text
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 19:48 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, the machine itself, hardware-wise, is incapable of multiuser. it leaks its memory via cache timings on 3 or 4 different layers ; it lacks its state via nic delays, it leaks like a sieve.
phf: mircea_popescu: it's part of my rant "why emacs is evil"
phf: mircea_popescu: scripting in emacs is to great extent about customizing the ux behavior of the system
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my current understanding , is that each emacs user alive , at some time in his life, took the thing and whittled away the spikes that his particular hands fell on most often.
phf: mircea_popescu: my short log metaphor example would've been the key bindings. there are conventions, they are not always followed, and often they have to be recustomized on a per-mode basis, or else you just memorize the abysmal defaults and stick to them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: largely because idiots. however there's a number of structural problems (e.g inability to handle word wrap in anything like a reasonable way) that attract ~infinite kludge-hours from all sorts of folx
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the best object of comparison is imho trb.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: elisp is a gnarly surviver of dark age 1970s lisps, suffers -- unfixably -- from problems long ago solved even in 'scheme' (e.g. 'funarg problem')
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm thinking, i'm not opposed to the idea, but i was also the person saying in logs that emacs is harmful and should be abandoned altogether. i can bring together whatever's asciilifeform and trinque are using for their workshops, and adopt it for myself also..
trinque: mircea_popescu: I do indeed
hanbot: mircea_popescu highlight is specifically for visibility in a swamp neh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he's all yours, knock out the hanging stool whenever you feel like
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 17:02 mircea_popescu: well... how would you feel about forking emacs, phf ?