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mircea_popescu: that woman, born i'd guess in the 30s, was the daughther.
mircea_popescu: he is ~absolutely correct~, too. the actual fuel, for communism's efficiency and persuasion, was precisely the reservoir he identifies : ". Și cîți aliați devotați n'ar găsii în captivii de cari pomenim mai sus, sătui de a-și călca mereu pe cuget și pe inimă, de a-și jertfi zilnic, pe altarul minciunii și inichității, convingerile lor adînci, dragostea de adevăr și de patrie !." is ===
http://trilema.com/20 mircea_popescu: but yes, the history of the "free world" closely approximates the history of a bunch of morons. because guess what -- they ARE a bunch of morons.
mircea_popescu: (this largely consisted of "let's give oil to shell and with money build carlton bloc hurr durr".)
mircea_popescu: "oh, but we'd exist in our stupid sense we came up with!" right.
mircea_popescu: new man happens when old man chooses to be so fucking stupid as to not meaningfully exist in any sense.
mircea_popescu: the fucking morons ~opted~ for evil, and then went about as if their pretending "they didn't opt" makes it BE THE CASE they did not so opt.
mircea_popescu: eg, s.nsa is more of a factory, in objective terms, than tractorul brasov ever was or could have been. it's what it is, these days "factory" is complex item.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: yes they "were brought by the tanks", but they stayed because they were actually effectual, and actually persuasive.
mircea_popescu: the commies answers to fundamental questions, as insufficient, incorrect, inept, useless or w/e else you might find them, seated in the hallowed confines of the republic, nevertheless blew the fuck out of the water the available alternatives.
mircea_popescu: that communism was untenable by the time 80s rolled around is a historical fact ; but kingdom romania was actually ~more~ bankrupt, as an intellectual endeavour, than communism ever got.
mircea_popescu: y "prior". the whole thing was a bunch of inept by-hand farmers (CENTURIES after the french peasant had domestique-industrialize already! CEEENTURIES!!!!) and a 14% class literally dreaming on top of them, while "hating" the boss that "makes them" do the makework that existed ENTIRELY as a pretext to pay them, in the very "internal paint" hope they might achieve something sometime somehow (all unspecified).
mircea_popescu: the universal problem, in the end : there's a difference between what you want and what you need.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman sure, why not. for the same money could just blame god tho.
mircea_popescu: i ran into a lotta these, you know, idle workers who couldn't work because basescu didn't let them.
mircea_popescu: exact nonsense spewing out of the same quarters during say basescu terms.
mircea_popescu: the argument as i perceived it generally revolves around this "omg, he's the devil!!!"
mircea_popescu: not even a matter of upset or not upset, just, "order this set"
mircea_popescu: it's unclear how much can be expected of one guy, or what exactly set of interactions to judge him by. nevertheless, setting top level policy broadly correctly is probably both there and sufficient. in this sense, ceausescu is better than say the english tard, what's her name, or the german tard, what's her name.
mircea_popescu: in any case, to briefly revisit : ceausescu's designs with his oil gains, while ultimately crowned by failure, were nevertheless A LOT smarter than period venezuela's commitments. and certainly way the fuck better than qatar building another mall today.
mircea_popescu: yeah. and yes, his words for the opposition would have been "partidul collectivist". what c a rosetti & co were pushing is entirely indistinct from today's pantsuitism, in all its particulars.
mircea_popescu: i don't think this was avoidable. like that schmuck whose name's forgotten who wanted to be famous so bad, set athens on fire.
mircea_popescu: very different sports. there's a reason communisms produce ballerinas.
mircea_popescu: and it is VERY different to take credit from the industrial products that are 12yo gymnasts, than to sit about and go "o look, this excellent tennis player got #1".
mircea_popescu: meanwhile ceausescu's communism DID produce the only olympic gold romania got till those times.
mircea_popescu: on the contrary -- to them, its most excellent quality is they've something to blame for ~their own~, wholly subjective and entirely cosubstantial nothingness.
mircea_popescu: the problem with communism, however, is not that it kept plesu, liiceanu, dinescu, mungiu etc from producing great crystals of pure thought to make the fame of romania throughout the ages.
mircea_popescu: incidentally alf, ludwig 2 of bavaria is a fine example re this wot. one day decided to ditch his cabinet -- the cabinet decided it'd better ditch him first!!!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: somehow they never fucking heard of anything, it's like talking to bouvard & pecuchet.
mircea_popescu: (i also fail to hear these "cultured" fucktards explain how ~exactly the same~ was said of what now makes the glory of austria, that insane dood's palaces)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: notwithstanding ceausescu watched tv for his own interest, at least, which is a step above the nigglet.
mircea_popescu: or, horrible dictu, how it mars obama as a moron with no culture.
mircea_popescu: and i fail to hear stupid cunt-pippidi explain "how ugly it is"
mircea_popescu: the typical "oh, casa poporului is so ugly" item goes right in #2 above : it's a code, exactly like
any other code. it's function is to permit the sort of moron who is affraid of the world to recognize who's likely to huddle with him.
mircea_popescu: ort of handshake, but imo this is defensible disinterest. you wouldn't say a kid "learns nothing in school" because he doesn't come home with the list of what grunge bands to listen to for maximum cooldom.
mircea_popescu: but there's two lines of pedestrian ceausescu-hate that carry no water. one is, "he is responsible for drought". dood is not a 12yo girl dancing naked in the street, has no peculiar relationship to rain. the other is that he was particularly stupid. was not -- way the fuck smarter than period writers, or generally "intellectuals". less aware of the ample thesaurus of borrowed knowledge they used to drop in conversation as a s
☟︎ mircea_popescu: possibly. there's very many variables to control in comparisons.
mircea_popescu: ie, the yugos had it arguably the best in the 80s, among the whole warsaw pact.
mircea_popescu: i'm not saying this is the dood's doing to any degree -- there's a very clear gradient, once the crisis hit, it propagated west to east.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that he knows what he's talking about. as a factual matter, 1985 living conditions were worse in moscow than in bucharest (and by far worse in bucharest than say cluj, or timisoara)
mircea_popescu: but yes, ceausescu's imperialist plans were obviously going to fail by the time mid 70s turned around, and were well and thoroughly doomed in 1980.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: there's no argument as to degradation. the objection is that the whole soviet world was undergoing the same process, and it hit the russians worse.
mircea_popescu: the local twerps tho knew better, wouldn't touch the stuff. so it got sold in south-east asia instead.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1901961 << this actually worked into the whole imperialism angle above. ceausescu had both drydocks of large capacity and steel production. decided to make ocean trawlers to compete in the (at the time) ongoing race to the bottom -- throughout 70s world oceans were systematically and industrially depopulated, a classical disaster of commons situation.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: willy-nilly these are the points of comparison as to the extant real estate inventory.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman there were two major earthquakes in romania : nov 1940, and march 1977.
mircea_popescu: yes dood made a palace in a dubious style, that all the
tircovnici obositi kept "superiorily" criticizing. but tell you what -- none of them were born in a better palace. they have all the footing to talk that any other african does.
mircea_popescu: and the houses! the data's even published on trilema, compare the rfucking living surfaces 1930 to 1960, ie during the two earthquakes.
mircea_popescu: or a hruscheba, or w/e the fuck they call it. makes entirely no difference, for the vast majority of the population of romania at the time had never lived in paved dwellings.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: that log thing about "what sovok is -- it's when they take the poor country girl and give her a house for free", that fucking happened. whole generations of what else'd have [been] turned into
http://trilema.com/fata-satului got forcibly taught how to be textile mill workers , and got forcibily placed in 1k sqft of new construction to call a house.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman yes, useful and durable. romania got a hidro power structure, for instance. the reason it even has power today.
mircea_popescu: guy was ahead of his time, it's not specifically his fault that the spawn-and-divideresources cuntal strategy fails.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1901958 << it's a matter of infrastructure that's discussed. in any fair comparison, nicu's building/whitewashing butade is actually closer to truth than any aferations of the "european stability and development funds" wank. infrastructurally, romania grew in the 60s and 70s. this was not matched hence (or ever afore, even accounting for surface and population, the carol boom is almost a degr
☝︎ mircea_popescu: soviets needed a slightly larger ukraine like i need slightly longer nose hairs. they ~did~ however need a friendly romania more than they needed hats.
mircea_popescu: but the galling idiocy of these schmucks actually making territorial demands ? it wasn't gonna be forgotten.
mircea_popescu: easy fix, at peace conference post ww1, instead of "here's what we want" could've been, "oh, romania, sacred mother of our people, plox forgive us"
mircea_popescu: lenin hadn't what to fight a soccer match with, let alone war.
mircea_popescu: because there's this group of people who talk for you so you don't end up more hated than you need to be.
mircea_popescu: which is why people even have diplomats in the first place, and why the whole "oh, washiongton correspondents dinner" wank ever even had any root in reality :
mircea_popescu: but nevertheless, diplomatically they were fucking inept. there's one thing to fail on an obligation, there's another to be offensive about it.
mircea_popescu: im not saying that staying behind and honoring war committments was POSSIBLE for the russians. i suspect -- was not possible.
mircea_popescu: it's the sort of historical truth people dun wanna hear, but the causation's plain an' obvious.
mircea_popescu: the incredible mismanagement of world affairs by revolutionary govt cost the russians stalingrad, quite plainly.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but the russians also didn't ally with swiss against mongol horde only to withdraw midway
mircea_popescu: wehrmacht had tanks, and the finns had impassible terrain.
mircea_popescu: understand the situation : ro army held its 1/4 of stalingradf front with infantry and the occasional tachanka.