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mircea_popescu: actually the reason it can'
t be fully learnable has more to do with godel than with tits and ass.
mats_cd03: i can'
t have this discussion strictly framed in metaphors and still understand what you're talking about
undata: isn'
t this exactly my point?
undata: and if he doesn'
t want them feeding themselves and working hard, what's he doing?
mircea_popescu: undata that they're momentarily realising gains out of externalised costs that haven'
t yet caught up with them.
mats_cd03: sure. true story. doesn'
t mean "real food" isn'
t actually available.
mats_cd03: we've been over this thing, where "americans don'
t eat real food"
mats_cd03: i don'
t agree with this distinction
mircea_popescu: (to be perfectly fair the original japanese folk story doesn'
t have that explicit in there, but hey. posteriority separates and all that)
mircea_popescu: <undata> americans can'
t communicate with each other well enough to solve any problems. << this is true actually. seriously, "dating guides" ?
undata: americans can'
t communicate with each other well enough to solve any problems.
chetty: well it is sad, I don'
t have an answer, just recognize the problem, ...what will turn the herd?
mircea_popescu: it doesn'
t take some sort of official pronouncement, like the "chemistry foundation" of 1700 signed a statement that they "now hereby reject the heresy of alchemy"
chetty: actually some that current stuff that calls itself science wouldn'
t be so bad, it just needs to stop pretending it is science
bounce: my isn'
t this an interesting irc conversation
mircea_popescu: adlai> we could define that the turd network doesn'
t count as output, since it's communication between computers and not output to the user <<< reading this sort of shit makes my head bleed
adlai: we could define that the turd network doesn'
t count as output, since it's communication between computers and not output to the user
adlai: they obviously didn'
t have turds in mind at the time
adlai: although the proof doesn'
t fit in the margin of this irc buffer
adlai: +mircea_popescu | it can'
t be a quine, it has to blockchain << who says those are contradictory?
mircea_popescu: so his argument goes that well, ussr is not a good example of how socialism generates wealth because it wasn'
t rich enough to begin with, whereas china is very rich now, so maybe it will try sociaism, notwithstanding that the path it took to get rich is the same path everyone took o get rich, specifically antisocialism.
mircea_popescu: that way nubsy doesn'
t need to worry which side is up.
adlai: kakobrekla: i also remember why you brought me, but still haven'
t heard any feedback from you
mircea_popescu: jurov yes but, a register increasing is this sort of leak. you're saying we fundamentally can'
t live in an immutable world.
mircea_popescu: <adlai> there's probably a nice little niche scamming these services << and a good thing for that, too. if there weren'
t no parasites praying on parasites we'd be awash in 'em
adlai still can'
t tell what the service does, other than pay you $10 for your identity
adlai: from
https://pocket.digitalx.com/ which appears to be trying to position itself as an entry point for a new wave of... some demographic that I can'
t quite pinpoint
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: therein lies the real chthonian ur-terror here. <<< nah, we know it works. we just can'
t prove it to arbitrary standards yet.
ben_vulpes: and we're working with a rusted model-
t.
mod6: i don'
t think the question is why, it's how.
mod6: what I mean is, if your worried about everyone running the same code, 'safety critical code' wouldn'
t it be good to have some diversity of systems, and decentralized
assbot: Logged on 21-10-2014 00:36:11; asciilifeform: a datacenter that can'
t be diddled from a safe distance is also called 'a nuclear power'
mod6: <+asciilifeform> like, your whole reich goes down << wouldn'
t it be grand to have a spec so people can use that to build their own compliant reference implementation?
mod6: so you wouldn'
t say, want to strip kern mods out or whatever?
mircea_popescu: maybe i don'
t iunderstand what you mean by "make own fs" and "bare metal" in that order.
mircea_popescu: somehow ? how about "can'
t read the system logs no more!"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform doesn'
t know who jolie is/was either, but no matter << Titless IRL Laura Croft
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you're not serious if you don'
t put #ifdef book : turn page on the cover.
BingoBoingo: undata: We don'
t measure time here with years. We use halvings and blockdepth
bounce: the samsung GT-E1107 is kinda cute except that the solar panel feature doesn'
t actually work very much at all.
mircea_popescu: assbot: The Inside Story Of Matt Taibbi's Departure From First Look Media - The Intercept <<< what they don'
t want to say is teh real scoop - "people heard about the qntra model and it killed anyone's will to life i nany competing project."
mircea_popescu: PeterL: why would they do that? <<< because they're business school majors, and this means social studies, and this means they don'
t understand that words carry meaning.
mircea_popescu: that's unavoidable, otherwise thing won'
t pass into 2014.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: can'
t say as i recall, the impression was formed over the course of 3 raves in quarries in the depths of oregon forests over my sixteenth summer.
undata: I get offended to my core when someone says "can'
t be done, lets give up"
mircea_popescu: it's going, it's going, don'
t blame the relative fixed position of mountains on the ass derping in the road.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: but now i don'
t see this thing as going anywhere << what, srlsy ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: me - i don'
t want jsonism in my book. << anything actually solidified in your head as to what you actually want ? sigs, really ?
mircea_popescu: bounce i don'
t care either way. maybe i;m the only person left i guess.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> hm, i like girls that wash ashtrays. i don'
t mean empty them in the trash, i mean actually wash the damned things. << Wait this thing I've been doing forever is unusual? I always wash the ashtrays at least weekly
mircea_popescu: hm, i like girls that wash ashtrays. i don'
t mean empty them in the trash, i mean actually wash the damned things.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don'
t remember, is edsel a car or a bad cheesecake brand ?
mircea_popescu: undata: if only there were some way to organize the efforts of a large number of people around projects <<< there is. you're watching it. just because leadership is not in your face doesn'
t necessarily mean leadership is absent and it's your time to shine. it may also mean leadership is extremely good at what it does.
☟︎ undata: shouldn'
t that die too?
bounce: so, the guy that's going to actively support unleashing lots of onerous gov'
t regulation on this bitcoin thing is now executive director of the bitcoin foundation
mats_cd03: asciilifeform fears for his life, but won'
t flee to save it.
ben_vulpes: if i don'
t have a thing going on on saturday we could even go so far as to pair
undata: I didn'
t initiate this thing; ben_vulpes do you have a desired process?
BingoBoingo: <undata> asciilifeform: that is a problem of the artists and not painting << No, this is a problem of no one fucking reading and the world burning because the entire stacks sucks because unread. Worked until it didn'
t undata: you don'
t have 5 hours a week?
undata: receiving money isn'
t the only way to invest in your own goals
chetty: I would go after that sword if eulora wasn'
t in the way
undata: asciilifeform: don'
t tell me how to live :D