asciilifeform: and not wholly unrelatedly, https://curl.haxx.se/docs/adv_20170809C.html << libcurl 0d ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lulzy, ye olde curtisyarvin 'if it could dent statusquo, Mother Church would pray it away' nonsense marches on

asciilifeform: ask the esperantists.

asciilifeform: street (vs ecclesiastic) humanlangs sadly dun work like this

asciilifeform: lol greek as lisp

asciilifeform: 'knowing the words'

asciilifeform: waiwat

asciilifeform: ( the best-selling ver is, i shit thee not, by king james )

asciilifeform: en is stuck in 1600s

asciilifeform: translation to what

asciilifeform: aah

asciilifeform: contract ?

asciilifeform: from what did he die?

asciilifeform: the one with the attic cache

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is there moar re the monk d00d somewhere ?

asciilifeform: ( currently eating some of the vintage ro links therein ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: i just finished eating it

asciilifeform: quite comprehensible

asciilifeform: aha, that.

asciilifeform: and ultimately to cement in place the practice of imposing nonbitcointronic constraints on what is spendable.

asciilifeform: 'It Would Be Wrong if indeed anyone-could-spend' etc

asciilifeform: the 3rd goal is to make the 'softfork' liquishit ' a necessity ' somehow, to harden it

asciilifeform: can't seem to find it in l0g

asciilifeform: aha possibly

asciilifeform: did we ever do the 'processing reorgs requires extending some credit to allcomers' thread ?

asciilifeform: incidentally what's the derpchain block interval these days

asciilifeform: oh the lukejr thing

asciilifeform found subj ~unreadable -- on account of the sheer qty of wtf redditolade priors baked in

asciilifeform: runmoarGit

asciilifeform: pestilential spamvertise, also

asciilifeform: the screamingly obvious?

asciilifeform: ( iirc nixon was the last )

asciilifeform: for visiting lizards

asciilifeform: aha!

asciilifeform: ( supposing you could walk up to it and illuminate )

asciilifeform: this only affects surface x cm of pile tho

asciilifeform: well, not terribly far, but not same

asciilifeform: nope

asciilifeform: which afaik is what the 'fed au is tungstentronic' thing is really about

asciilifeform: gravimeter's the only thing that'd give actual idea of the mass, rather than volume, of the pile.

asciilifeform: i'd still bet on gravimeter, if i had to go and detect it meself

asciilifeform: but lacking the actual magic nums ( asciilifeform is still at beachhouse, lol ) i'ma have to leave it at 'maybe works from 40m!'

asciilifeform: most of it dun return in same direction ...

asciilifeform: the backscatter gotta come back tho

asciilifeform: though it'd rock.

asciilifeform: objection is 'through door, wall, across river'

asciilifeform: this worx great in a man-sized box

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu admit, do you have a bottle of rum open..?

asciilifeform: it aint periodic

asciilifeform: how do you pll for radiodecay?!!!

asciilifeform: 'gone' in practice means 'not measurable over backgnd'

asciilifeform: and it's gone.

asciilifeform: that's 5 or so cm of pb.

asciilifeform: let's take all 100mEv

asciilifeform: show me the particle ? e.g., x kEv gamma. which is it.

asciilifeform: even fast neutron tops out at a few M of solid dirt

asciilifeform: show me the magic particle that has infinite free path even in air, much less earth, cement

asciilifeform: even sr90 lighthouse rtg , unshielded, is ~silent from few 100m of ~air~

asciilifeform: if it falls on you - yes detectable. on xray in a man-sized arch, hidden in a snatch - detectable. from river - can't picture how.

asciilifeform: a few M in soil, brick.

asciilifeform: even pumped beam , or epic cosmic ray, still stops a few ~cm~ in au or pb tho

asciilifeform: 'metamaterial'

asciilifeform: that was the hope aha

asciilifeform: but how to reflect.

asciilifeform: refraction works, in every crystallography shop

asciilifeform: ( from what to make mirrors?! tho )

asciilifeform: hey it's possible in principle...

asciilifeform: ( sdi sank from, among other lulz, failure to discover a practical xray laser )

asciilifeform: gotta wake up regan and tell him how

asciilifeform: at a metre or 2 yes

asciilifeform: inverse-square is a thing. picture what you'd need to even go above backgnd at 'river' distance

asciilifeform: if you're thinking of item that ~emits~ xray...

asciilifeform: so is the neutronograph

asciilifeform: first place i'd expect it is at usg border arch.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in production where?

asciilifeform: the index won't read by trb.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-11#1696914 << mno, they use different db ☝︎

asciilifeform: ground-penetrating radar gives a few M, realistically, fewer in dense or wet material .

asciilifeform: to round off the wtf -- 'beachcomber' inductive 'minesweeper' tops out at 30-40 ~cm~, not m

asciilifeform: ( unless the au-via-neutron bombardment thing were to take off.. )

asciilifeform: the only thing that'd make it 'across river' is gravity , and possibly fast neutrons. which au dun emit.

asciilifeform: none of the other measures work through the door, sadly. even if we were discussing sr-90 rather than au

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-11#1696926 << can set up mass of depleted uranium and trick gravimeter. ☝︎

asciilifeform: cavities (e.g. mines, tunnels) are a different story, the missing soil is quite 'loud' gravimetrically

asciilifeform: and certainly not 'across the river'

asciilifeform: now theoretically you could pick up a cubic few metres of au with... gravimeter. but strictly from, e.g., 1 story up

asciilifeform: who never heard of any such thing

asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu might like to mention the xray background ( wtf? ever consider the self-absorption of an item with density of gold!?) to prospectors

asciilifeform: holy shit, ultrasound 'from a bridge over east river'?!

asciilifeform: https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/161.pdf >> for whoever it was who had asked re lattice solving for privkey

asciilifeform bbl, off to torture room

asciilifeform: actually hm, maybe not a lie

asciilifeform: exercise for reader : find the hidden conditionals.

asciilifeform: claims ' Compute V <-- A^{-1} (mod M), in data-independent time.' in comments tho

asciilifeform: observe... ORDINARY BRANCHING!

asciilifeform: contribution to gmp

asciilifeform: most don't even bother with this pretense. http://archive.is/GNrtB is a more typical idiocy

asciilifeform: plenty of nonsense claiming to solve these, entire forests annihilated. but EVERYONE pulled the scam described earlier ( memory indexed by secret value )

asciilifeform: ditto modular mult

asciilifeform: ditto modular inverse