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mircea_popescu: in other news, i don't want to be a fat black woman.
mircea_popescu: assbot: Gavin Andresen: I don't want to be 'king of Bitcoin' <<< mmmmywah, that was really on the table lol.
mircea_popescu: punkman: don't think I've ever had a good mango <<< ew, you're missing out.
mircea_popescu: and i must say, i have never in my life seen public works like in argentina. so three days ago they announced they will fuck up the sidewalk before my building, and garage won't be accessible for two days. then two days ago they fucked it up, yesterday they were fixing it and today it's all fine, new pavement.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, if one were a god, but i mean actual, honest-to-god god. wouldn't you expect he'd mostly want to hang out with assorted unbelievers, unrepentant sinners and firebrand heretics ?
asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/11/odds-and-ends.html << mr. o explains why he didn't stick with ipa.
assbot: Gavin Andresen: I don't want to be 'king of Bitcoin'
punkman: don't think I've ever had a good mango
cazalla: his missus isn't that bad though she had a big emo about cheating so maybe he had a few others https://www.facebook.com/Stephaniemckaykay
punkman: cazalla: doesn't ring a bell
Vexual: you don't, it's already been decided
assbot: GE is the only remaining member of the original Dow Jones Industrial Average launched in 1896: http://t.co/KLHZHqQ46w http://t.co/oo6J9GAgkD
mircea_popescu: aaaand if they don't ?
mircea_popescu: !t m s.qntr
mircea_popescu: punkman it won't say.
mircea_popescu: it's so fucking lulzy how full of fail that thing is srsly. almost 100% copy of vessennes' scam "foundation". won't say how much money it spent, masquerades as "open", astroturfing to the hilt, the works
mircea_popescu: why the fuck all this song and dance about "our values abhor" and "degrading misoginistic" blablabla baclava. what's wrong with the obivious "this is a fucktarded kid, broken in the head to the degree he imagines strangling strangers is an adequate substitute for his absent social skills, we don't want him here, and ideally he should be undergoing a special needs program somewhere."
mircea_popescu: "This guy wasn't pushing forward political ideas, he was putting a view that was derogatory to women and that's just something that our values abhor in this country," he said.
mircea_popescu: fucking things you didn't even know existed come out of places you didn't even know existed to check it out.
asciilifeform: doesn't help that no one hunts the beasts here (densely populated, shoot one deer and bag three random bozos)
mircea_popescu: they have very different degrees of liberty. can't freely interface them like this.
mircea_popescu: so i suppose "in the real world" pluricellular organisms don't exist.
asciilifeform: 'Mathematics uses induction—the idea that if 1 + 1 is 2 then 2 + 1 must be 3, and so on up to an arbitrarily large quantity. In the real world, if you are counting acorns, then 1 + 1 acorns is not the same as 1,000,000 + 1 acorns—not if there are squirrels running around, which there will be once they find out that you are the one who's been stealing their acorns. A million acorns is just too many for you t
mircea_popescu: decimation: if you want something modern and not a rusty bucket you are talking ~$1-2 bn and your money can't buy one << you gotta be kidding me. an aircraft carrier is like 5bn. and i mean a large 100k tdw one, not the shitty 50k uk has.
mircea_popescu: the secret to great cake ? don't oversugar.
mircea_popescu: they won't bite, because screams.
mircea_popescu: but they don't exactly understand enough to know where their shoes go.
mircea_popescu: except if your os has a huge memory leak baked right in. then they don't.
mircea_popescu: which is why the economy can't really function "on its own"
mircea_popescu: PeterL: Speaking of bezzle, I just did my yearly health insurance signup. makes me mad how much I have to pay now, about 4 times as much as two years ago for the same crappy plan <<< terrorist doesn't understand how obamacare works.
Adlai: decimation: i'd think that if you have that kind of money, you wouldn't be buying an entire sub anyways
decimation: if you want something modern and not a rusty bucket you are talking ~$1-2 bn and your money can't buy one
asciilifeform has no truck with mining and doesn't wish to
asciilifeform: (didn't learn thermo in school? dig out a 1990s pc with 'peltier' cooler and connect a load to it instead of powering. then see how long until cpu melts.)
asciilifeform: (and i hope i don't have to explain the thermodynamic folly of trying to run waste heat through it)
PeterL: didn't cray supercomputers use liquid cooling?
asciilifeform: it isn't like this was invented just today.
asciilifeform: corpse doesn't get asked what kind of worms shall eat.
asciilifeform: decimation: this is only partly due to bezzle. it is also because in usa, 'they don't piss in elevators like back home.'
decimation: look, if usg got out of the money manipulation game, hard money came back, and folks had to get by on their own achievements, immigration wouldn't be an issue
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: employers don't want to feed the mortgage, etc. bezzlatron. and this is perfectly logical.
PeterL: Don't get me wrong, the group still has plenty of smart Americans as well
asciilifeform: except that we haven't actually invented modularizable software yet.
asciilifeform: decimation: turns out, these don't work all that well.
mircea_popescu: see, had you followed that bloomingdale's executive program you wouldn't have to work nights.
Adlai: although still missing is a way of negrating people who aren't yet in the wot
mircea_popescu: you don't follow. lemme detail it!
assbot: there were about 20 FBI agents searching my neighbor’s tesla and suv earlier today in the mission. /hashtag/mystery?src=hash http://t.co/o5YZmFnKpO
Adlai: negrating doesn't hurt anybody who's not in the WoT, and a fair amount (all?) of copyrasta economic activity is done outside of the WoT...
Adlai: the amount of software needed is much less relevant than its quality, which isn't correlated to man-months in any simple/linear fashion
mircea_popescu: this isn't fucking farming.
mircea_popescu: bounce: you know, if the IRS says that virtual currencies aren't currencies, how can the SEC keep on claiming they are? << you're new here aren't you.
BingoBoingo: A, well. Hard to fire people when there isn't a payroll...
cazalla: well, BingoBoingo brought yesterdays traffic so if he can't maintain it for more than a day....
mircea_popescu: omg wtf gpg doesn't veriufy its own clearsigned output
assbot: The Blake Berthall Silk Road 2.0 Complaint, Fulltext /hashtag/deturdified?src=hash http://t.co/nHr1BRFFA7 /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash
bounce: you know, if the IRS says that virtual currencies aren't currencies, how can the SEC keep on claiming they are?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: so you can't use laundered money to pay expenses (i.e. mortgage?)
rithm: or maybe that isn't irony at all
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: regarding: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2014#833679 << What's so bad about a little trappin? As the first commandment of the Book of Jeezy says, "Don't get caught" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: answer't.
bounce: not last I checked. my name doesn't start with an s either.
mircea_popescu: you can't possibly be serious.
bounce: only because that other guy's name doesn't. doesn't make for a winning argument though.
bounce: the section between r and t in my dictionary
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bounce anyway, i don't think we've really managed to talk of the same thing, so i guess this entire quesiton will come back in teh futures.
asciilifeform: to round off my argument (i'm about to drive off for a spell) the 'pliant, obedient people who gotta suck it up or the lights won't turn on' aren't the h1b folks. they're the phactory gurlz in shenzhen.
bounce generated a gpg key with openssl once. because gpg won't generate dsa keys != 1024 bits
mircea_popescu: i have a computer here, it runs this irc session. right next to it, i have a wooden box. it is ALSO MADE OF MOLECULES. it runs nothing. they form a society of the items in my house. they're all molecules. i wouldn't fucking notice if the entire fucking wooden box went away.
bounce: I think we started out trying for find some sort of raison d'etre for a steady stream of h1b-grantees, didn't we?
bounce: leaders that can't lead lead to nowhere. if you can't anything but the meekest you're no good as a leader.
mircea_popescu: bounce i don't follow this logic.
mircea_popescu: exactly how a plate of uranium glass may glow under uv light, but won't warm anything much.
mircea_popescu: harkens back to the entire "how come 300 milion usians living in the best world ever don't produce about 500 renoirs a year ?"
bounce: we're talking about upping the u238 content, wasn't it?
mircea_popescu: what matters is : are you going to do it or aren't you.
bounce: quite a few rilly smrt people populating silly valley. they produce things like... "social networks" and many many cookie-cutter technology companies. it doesn't seem that h1b folks, no matter how smart or many, can hope to seriously dent that dominion
mircea_popescu: suppose out of a hundred people, ninety-seven don't matter. ever. irrespective of any consideration, if god strikes them down tomorrow nothing happens.
asciilifeform: the availability of zamac doesn't cause crud to be produced in lieu of genuine article. or does it?
asciilifeform: who is being shipped in? it isn't factory grunts.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can't maintain intellectual dominance without political dominance, you can't maintain political dominance without social hierarchy. the us decided to scrap hierarchy. of fucking course it can no longer have intelligent people working in its workshops, whatever they may be.
mircea_popescu: decimation: well, there's little doubt in my mind that the reason h1b visas are 'tech' targeted is because engineers have the least political pull in the us <<< they happen to be the only people who have an actual something to do, and so aren't quite as motivated to politics by the gnawing existential void that pushes the paper pushers.
mircea_popescu: lol so pankkake got butthurt because we don't like systemd, decided bitcoin "wouldn't have worked anyway" ? that's some pretty good fatlogic right there.
cazalla: i didn't even last a day, or another day after that
BingoBoingo: cazalla: You swore "no drink" november, beer isn't drink
cazalla: ninjashogun> Okay, BingoBoingo, I accept that I am to treat you as drunk 100% of the time. <<< don't forget me!
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> wasn't flat. (until the very last incarnations.) cylindric. << Flat square one was nice.
ninjashogun: anyway other than if you guys talk shit about me I don't hang out here anymore. (as you might have noticed.)
asciilifeform: wasn't flat. (until the very last incarnations.) cylindric.
thestringpuller: don't sit too close to the television
thestringpuller: i guess i'm a baby. i don't remember a time when that didn't exist.
ninjashogun: It wasn't machine generated. I made it by hand in a word processor.
asciilifeform: isn't it a beauty? how did they even get the bloody thing going without decoupling caps?
asciilifeform: notice what isn't in the picture.
ninjashogun: Hi. I was informed some people from here were talkiing shit about me? I don't have any interaction with this channel (and haven't for months) - if you have any specific complaints (or areas for room for improvement in the future) you can tell me. My reading is that this is a very low-signal troll community. (For example, cazalla's rating of my on WoT is after he gave me an Australian police department's number, not his own. Asciil
asciilifeform: story doesn't have a happiend either. i still buy'em.
thestringpuller: just that red ring. the general "This xbox is fucked, don't bother repairing"
thestringpuller: I don't know what fails to be honest. HDD failure on XBox though isn't fatal failure.
decimation: the pediwikia article isn't too bad, lots of links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29
cazalla: i dunno full story tbh, opa was in the wehrmacht and we have photos of him as an officer but my father reckons he wasn't an officer despite the photos and shit