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benkay: and how does that manifest as a significant pain point? i haven't noticed a significant lag between when people post orders and when the pastebin goes up
Bowjob: they invented engrish as well
LameCoin-: as i stated before, if asians were going to rule we would be in awe at all the asian brands\innovations around us
dub: one would hope it isnt going to require as many forlifts as your example
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Continue as though I do.
mircea_popescu: it's as unavoidable as rain.
Luke-Jr: midnightmagic: I don't see it as something worth my time arguing a case for.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr he's somehow bothered with everyone mocking you for trying your damnest to pass yourself off as a dev
BitHub: hey guys did you get your ASICMINER div as well?
mircea_popescu: in an ultimately doomed effort to prop the dirt as respectable.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic that dispute as to reality will have to come to my grave.
mircea_popescu: people who lie by presenting the mining corruption as "consensus", they are being uncivil.
midnightmagic: Luke-Jr: hello. I hope all my statements including you were correctly inferenced as rhetorical device and not assertions of fact.
mircea_popescu: as far as i know we've never met.
mircea_popescu: so i'm takingthat as a sort of up and down and all about no.
midnightmagic: As you are so fond of saying, hire the braindead monkeys who can do it *for* you for the peanuts you say they're worth, and have them do it.
midnightmagic: 15:59 < mircea_popescu> midnightmagic i am interested in attracking ACTUAL reasonable people, as opposed to the self proclaimed variety.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic i am interested in attracking ACTUAL reasonable people, as opposed to the self proclaimed variety.
mircea_popescu: for as long as you keep the btc there
mircea_popescu: as we know, devteam hasn't mastered the mysteries of configuring berkley
mircea_popescu: this is just an edge example, there's tons of others just as good really.
jurov: those who will be left behind will educate themselves, as usual
jurov: whatever. as long as you know what ur doing
jcpham: as long as it is free
jurov: jcpham, 10k shares of asspride will do as a consolation prize?
mircea_popescu: but then again, as the girl said after the pirate fiasco : give your money to idiots, cause trouble across the board.
BitHub: is the s.dice guy in there as well?
Chaang-Noi: i kinda have the same idea about wot as i do facebook :/
benkay: think about a plugin to your radio system that identifies customers as they walk in your store and then queues up music for them
benkay: contrasts strongly against american startuplandia where you can pivot (fail) ten times with 3 different investment rounds, and still be lauded as a pop-hero
Chaang-Noi: yeah i just dont think wot is a good tool, not worth my time. i can see how it is goodfor some people not as well known as me, but im one of bitcointalks greatest trolls:)
Chaang-Noi: that pisses me off as people jsut abose it
burnside: it was just play money then unfortunately, and I treated it as such
mircea_popescu: as in, do not upgrade. the people pushing this broken code are irresponsible and you will lose out.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla actually, if the current devs continue as bitcoin devs, i can envisage ltc becoming the standard coin.
dub: [19:05] <theymos> Luke-Jr: On the subject of bitcointroll forum, I'm going to add a feature allowing you to mark your topics as self-moderated when you create them. In such topics, the OP can delete replies. That should solve some of your problems.
mircea_popescu: Ukto as you might notice, mpex.coinbr.com is doing fine
Ukto: I was discussing it with tux as well
Ukto: the server remains behind protection for a reason as not to have the ips given out
mircea_popescu: TomServo no, as it's not public. but you can have the source http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2013/03/12
mod6: i wont start by making any changes to the source, just review it as I can.
mircea_popescu: as miners submitted current work, they were paid for their share of contribution to that low difficulty
mircea_popescu: as the blockchain was being downloaded, the difficulty was corresponding to very old blocks, ie, very low.
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner they lost ~1.2k because the new .8 redownloaded the chain and they autopaid miners submitting as if low diff
dub: so this fucking agent calls me in yesterday to show the same offer as last week, only on paper
mircea_popescu: + "it's not enough" drama + trying to get the pruize with as little work as possible etc
mircea_popescu: jurov anyway, the problem isn't as much the drama, but moreover that a single-source codebase is both non-bitcoiny and suspect.
mircea_popescu: problem is every exchange wants to act as if in a vacuum, because
mircea_popescu: such as including 10k 160 byte txs
mircea_popescu: smickles i think it's a fine measure as it is really.
mircea_popescu: be that as it may.
Namworld: I think you are very literal on what sentences mean and interpret as little as possible. You avoid making too many inferences during a conversation so even small omissions can result in misunderstandings.
MJR_: has anyone ever said "bitcoin-assets is great but I just wish it had as much drama as bitcointalk.com"
jborkl_: They have identified it as .BDB has a limit and can be broken. .8 does not have a limit and seems fine. Lets move back to the broken
Namworld: I hate it when I forget something in a sentence and I'm getting argued against for 10 minutes when I have the same point of view as the one arguing against me.
mircea_popescu: "It's about as bad as everywhere else on the planet, I guess, with the single exception of Romania," Asia Pacific Network Information Centre's chief scientist, Geoff Huston, said in an interview with ZDNet Australia.
Ukto: Native LTC deposit/withdraw supported. "And as always. Has good day."
mircea_popescu: be that as it may
midnightmagic: More likely it was a side-business for coin laundry, but none of the miners could ever (far as I know) figure out where the coins were coming *from*.
mircea_popescu: i don't think so. gpumax dissapeared with pirate, as the sane people were saying back in february 2012.
mircea_popescu: the same applies ideologically too. the network won't get attacked for as long as it manages to not stupidly offend.
mircea_popescu: just leave it stand as it is. the theoretical response to a 51% attack is that the attacker would make more by mining.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic that's fine, but you pervert the choices when you add riders such as "one is really vanishingly small"
mircea_popescu: same thing pigeons. as long as you're making that call your ass is too tight.
mircea_popescu: suppose there is one attacker such as you've modeled him.
midnightmagic: also economical savvy (as all attackers I have seen have been extremely insightful economically)
BingoBongo: Ah, this is kind of what I was thinking. I must have read without expressing the sentiment. I believe I've read similar on Trilema as well.
mircea_popescu: end of story. money itself is a centralising factor, and as such the slightest flicker amplifies
BingoBongo: "Good" bitcoin will probably have to overtake old by 51% As worse overtook bad tonight
midnightmagic: Currently, the best choice is sipa's blacklist patch, as it allows us to remain on the faster 0.8 while still mining.
BingoBongo: And mircea_popescu many will probably try to sweep it under the rug as LevelDB is broken, because it isn't BerkelyDB. You're on the right track, but I think this was probably the wrong error...
Ukto: well, as I stated before.. weex wallet is the perfect example of correctnes
mircea_popescu: yea. as in, not change it.
mircea_popescu: the-bucket-shop basically it will happen indefinitely for as long as we have a devteam that mostly works at trying to play government.
smickles: mod6: i thought all electrons were indistinguishable as far as our best tech can tell
Bowjob: watching this is entertaining as fuck
smickles: topace_: as a regualr user, i dunno. but it'll switch over automatically when the .7 chain is longer
mircea_popescu: so it is working as intended, be that useful or not
gesell: or we do but a bit more abstracted and not so clear as it is here
gesell: kakobrekla: first, im sorry this is all happening. im sure it is ruining some peoples day. but why do you see it as a mtgox problem?
pizzaman1337: Chaang-Noi: as soon as the 0.7 chain is longer, I think. Not sure how far behind it is.
wiggzz: but, on a put required capital is not as great as they can fall
Chaang-Noi: odd 12 ours oga this chan was dead as dead, wake up to panic, ahhh btc :)
dub: gox is trying to trade as always
smickles: i see that as a goos ~8 btc spent
mircea_popescu: dub for some values of moderate such as
the-bucket-shop: still 25 coins every 10 minutes as far as I know. long term should be good gesell
vampireb: the result: bitcoin foundation would be promoted as a saviour
kakobrekla: btc is fragile as a cracked egg
Chaang-Noi: glad i has 150,000 as a back up crypto currancy
mircea_popescu: "let's hide the fact that we suck at coding by falsely accusing someone else of doing things such as trying to externalise their costs on others"\
mircea_popescu: as in, "it's a blocksize issue we've introduced with 0.8"
mircea_popescu: as is no
smickles: do you think it's spammy as is?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla as you can see, i received no mail.
gesell: smickles: yeah mpexbot... so it could be that just as mpex forces people to understand that the odd security model is better (and forces people to learn why and learn what pgp is) maybe it is of value to force them to use a different interface in a similar way. but the cause and effect is not as clear with the Web vs Mpexbot, as it was with the gpg protocol
gesell: mircea_popescu: for lack of a better comparison... say for instance that some brokerage firm was had their own interface to nyse showing trades and tickers. this would "feel" decoupled from the excchange itself so people would not associate the two. if nyse decided to change how they present themselves that brokerage face would not be percieved as, i dont know, a quick crutch to fill the gap. where as when it is mirroring nyse so closely
FabianB: well stock trading volume went down, but never stopped; options as usual
gesell: mircea_popescu: well its also strange that the proxy seems to be a mirror. as apposed to it being it's own form of interface.
gesell: in that scenerio you would script updates (not pull from an api, as this might overrun google apps limits)