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benkay: relevant to past business/coding exploits
benkay: saw that
mircea_popescu: then there was bip-17, an entire drama.
pankkake: but it allows to decentralize everything!
mircea_popescu: which was put together suspiciously quickly.
mircea_popescu: this got him exactly squat, showing about how important control of the new releases was
mircea_popescu: gavin put in code that made everyone downloading the latest versiion vote "yes" cause he wanted to see a yesz.
moiety: i go for hot chocolate and miss tits and bongs? ffs ping me next time
mircea_popescu: supposing of course the tiny shitty pictures aren't lifted.
benkay: great tits, too.
mircea_popescu: well they're ok girls, whadda ya want.
ThickAsThieves: there's something missing too
asciilifeform: who resented being put to such a task.
asciilifeform: the '3' was a monkeywrench thrown by their monkey
mircea_popescu: fucking weirdest thing i've seen so far today.
mircea_popescu: http://www.btcbeauties.com/donate < check out this shit.
benkay: everyone thinks its crazy and or stupid
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Duffer1: ;;ud tittybong
Duffer1: ;; tittybong
benkay: this is no secret to me, mircea_popescu
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mircea_popescu: who do you think will fight it in the US ? those currently involved in X right ?
mircea_popescu: OF COURSE they would fight it tooth and nail. imagine someone invents a solution to all X problems tomorrow.
asciilifeform: stross, if i'm not mistaken, is the 'other kind' of writer
benkay: not this power-concentrating pure money technology bullshit
mircea_popescu: benkay tell you a secret : if all the people who had been up to this point claimed to be employed at or interested in bitcoin's business had recognised it and moved over,
Duffer1: which is ironic since his latest book (which was frankly aweful) featured the cryptocurrency idea prominently
benkay: makes sense, right? nerds want to have other nerds idolized by nerd-tokens.
benkay: although in his vision it was the reputation system that cracked 'em open, not the breaking of the fiat bank.
benkay: when A. is basically all about what the world looks like after the hidebound states fall over
benkay: it was interesting to see the Accelerando guy take his stance on bitcoin being evil
Duffer1: i wonder what KSR would extrapolate from blockchain tech
Duffer1: the over all story is well worth the overlong theories of possible future technical/civil/economic possibilities
chetty: haha just reading about them, seems very timely stuff
benkay: Kim Stanley Robinson. he gets a wee-bit preachy and long in the mouth (like Rand) but has a very vivid story about the different groups who emigrated and why and what they all did with themselves.
Duffer1: i've read them, proud to say i didn't skip any pages
chetty: nope never heard of those
benkay: chetty: did you ever read the Red/Green/Blue Mars books?
chetty: A Fatwa has been issued against living on Mars by clerics who say that trying to set up home there would be un-Islamic. ☟︎
moiety: im just catching up i see there are three guys
greenspan_fan: vis a vis, leningrad. Wikipedia lists three discoverers though
moiety: wiki lies to meeeeeeeee
moiety: i thought he was still alive
asciilifeform: pop quiz for whoever: how did the discoverer of the 'LED' die?
moiety: might know this one: http://i.imgur.com/txDa8p9.png
moiety: lol duffer thats brilliant
greenspan_fan: for instance, fresnel lenses-- a thin sheet that magnifies surprisingly efficiently
asciilifeform: people did amazing things with optics, without any access to coherent light, much less computer
asciilifeform: (from the 'weird soviet crap' dept. of my brain)
asciilifeform: there's a whole field of weird analogue computers using light, that mostly died out some time last century
asciilifeform: i only brought this up because armed bandits and knapsacks.
mircea_popescu: it's actually pretty good sarcasm, re twinkle.
asciilifeform: which i realized the next day.
asciilifeform: incidentally, 'there are no new ideas', etc. and this is but a minor generalization of shamir's TWINKLE/TWIRL
mircea_popescu: lnovy nah, that was just a metaphor.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i for one certainly would like to see it built.
lnovy: sorry, off-topic problem, as i've said, tldr
asciilifeform: i don't insist that this is a useful mechanism, that necessarily does 'the job'. only that 1) i never found any trace that it was proposed before 2) i cannot see a 'textbook' reason why it ought not to work
mircea_popescu: i'm a very theoretical physicist. i have no fucking idea of the formulas involved in physics, but i can tell you when you're wasting your time.
mircea_popescu: i tell you, this is a perpetuum lightmobile.
asciilifeform: and measure the error of the 'answer'
asciilifeform: pull the rotator slides one by one
mircea_popescu: (tyhrough the rotation)
mircea_popescu: you won't be able to establish the path of light after you've measured its position
mircea_popescu: known since about the 1900s
mircea_popescu: but you can't determine the path for very good reasons
asciilifeform: if you can determine the path, you have answer.
asciilifeform: idea is, some scattered light will take the correct path through the rotators
asciilifeform: it's a brute-forcer for n-SAT, too
mircea_popescu: recall the early highschool physics "and now the light makes spots, and now the light makes lines"
asciilifeform waves to dr. evil reading this
mircea_popescu: i tell you, the most happening is "wow, look, likght does THAT too ?!"
mircea_popescu: derp, they never do.
asciilifeform: and then we can go cry
asciilifeform: damnit, you want that i draw the whole picture, and then some bozo maps knapsack to the discrete logarithm problem
mircea_popescu: you will end up with separation issues at the region boundries i bet.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's sans the chiral bits :)
benkay: see asciilifeform even MP thinks your readers gotta be super alert.
asciilifeform: (basic principle due to herr pasteur)
mircea_popescu: i bet you the most that comes out of this is some new quantum effect.
asciilifeform: (source: my turdbook, circa '08)
asciilifeform: result: machine solving knapsack problem in polynomial time.
mircea_popescu: your reader needs to be mighty alert.
asciilifeform: (and how to attach 'weights' to n1, ... nk)
asciilifeform: (incl. how to get the answer out.)
asciilifeform: endgame is an exercise for the alert reader.
mircea_popescu: "make porn appear on the screen"
asciilifeform: each region rotates the light by d1, d2, ... dk degrees.
asciilifeform: in the pipe, slides containing each a matrix of regions of optically rotating substance (chiral whatever)
asciilifeform: on the other end of tube, a filter which passes only light polarized P degrees.
asciilifeform: now consider a source of light, of known polarization, shining into a tube
asciilifeform: you want, from a set n1, n2, n3, ... nk, a subset such that sum(...) = S
asciilifeform: consider this knapsack packer: ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: im just not sure it's reducible to i.
asciilifeform: i also have a hunch that it is a variant of Knapsack Problem
mircea_popescu: i guess ima clean it up and put it on the t.
asciilifeform: but an actual expert might know. (i was thrown into that line of work by accident.)
asciilifeform: i meant, literally this game.