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mircea_popescu: it's the state-of-the-art re the topic, from people who actually study it as opposed to uswank it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the even worst is when the fucking moose does it.
mircea_popescu: had the deency not to. plain asphalt, smooth, crushed ~every bone in her body.
mircea_popescu: there was no question of survival, indentification more a concern.
mircea_popescu: on concrete, 5-6th floor are just about experimentally enough.
mircea_popescu: "drag" is aconsideration in this discussion for the sort of intellect that reads wikireddit and thinks haskell is a useful programming language.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann really ? what do you think drag is, magic ? where does "drag" hide all that energy, not like people splat in flames.
mircea_popescu: i just did the math to show you the thing you copy/pasted is nonsense -- surely someone jumping from 214 meters (about 100 floors) will still die.
mircea_popescu: odds are he's not competent enough to reason about a cup of tea.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the pretense some derp "reasoned" about suicide is ridiculous of the prime order. who exactly is so equiped that they may so reason ?
mircea_popescu: doesn't have to call it quits on calling it quits. just on calling it quits right then and there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it just sits there. there's no transition on a roof. if anything, the lack of transitions is calming, which is why jumpers can notoriously be talked out of it. make no sudden gesutres, let him take in the outdoors, he';ll climb down.
mircea_popescu: have you ever seen an idiot stop in a doorway ? because his brain simply shut down confronted with the transition ? "oh, room. outdoors. whoa!"
mircea_popescu: trains provide numerous and precise transitions. rooftops do not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform people are not thinking agents. in deprs, transitions are a major consideration, much more so than any others.
mircea_popescu: good suicide will push bad suicide out of circulation!
mircea_popescu: such lolz, the kakobrelkas of today trying to deal with the logs of yesteryear.
mircea_popescu: do you know that salo joke, "hey, the muscovy went to space !" "all of them ?" "no, just one" "then what are you bothering me for"
mircea_popescu: ^ erlehmann there's your source, courtesy of friendly birdy in my ear.
mircea_popescu: !~google mark saldana, tokyo's human accidents jinshin jiko and the social meaning of train suicide
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am not protesting the passage of time, nor its effects. merely remarking on it.
mircea_popescu: things that "just happen", inferior nonsense pseudotech gaining usg tendril adoption.
mircea_popescu: apparently "don't step in front of subway, you will die" is a lot less comprehesible to 8 yo japanese girl than "if i end up having to pay a fine for it I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU!"
mircea_popescu: amuysing factoid -- the japs got rid of the problem by making bereaved families pay fine + repairs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there are ? you mean the japanese train jumping girly thing ?
mircea_popescu: in other news, i got one of those bar shot ladle things, for ease of delivery. it's a very useful implement.
mircea_popescu: hey, this could be gay slang. "is your butt use-full yet, twink ?"
mircea_popescu: i mostly like the intimation that while they may not have any exact proof, they do have sufficient inexact ones.
mircea_popescu: "when a man grows old, and his balls grow cold, and the tip of his prick turns blue, he may in turn start do as the subj link describes, an' triage'm by symptoms"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remember the "England -- implementation of logarithm" ? await ye till republic is actually where the idle seek their bread. then watch and be awashed art the deluge
mircea_popescu: i expect alf himself WILL voraciously read "proof" of former, no matter the source.
mircea_popescu: anyway. his bad for inserting a conjecture among actually known shit. there's a difference between "we don't know if rsa is hard" and "we know you can't compress all files"
mircea_popescu: i seem to recall you spending some lines discussing the problem of "unknown practitioner"
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't per se dispute the piece can be rescued with liberal application of benevolent reading balm. i just don't seem inclined.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but the proposition that a proof for fermat's conjecture is not worth reading past page four is not factual.
mircea_popescu: sure. and they will. but dudley's piece is now... just as pseudo, and just as crank, as theirs,
mircea_popescu reread his own version of dudley. are you aware fermat theorem proofs is in his list ?
mircea_popescu: people pretending otherwise are pretending otherwise, like the girlies trying to get a husband by staring.\
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as central authority, nor ever was. nor could ever be.
mircea_popescu: moreover, the "central authority" bullshit is LITERALLY and quite exactly "time telling oracle"
mircea_popescu: (clock towers -- notoriously innacurate, closer to billboards than to quartz watches)
mircea_popescu: do they serve the two pump hurr durr mocha latte yet or still working on it ?
mircea_popescu: cuz you know, dollars don't lack a central authority. somehow. because if we lalalala really hard pantsuit hilarity losing the elections didn't happen and totally the fed is in control of shit.
mircea_popescu: this is by no means singular derapage of one stray goat, either. "how do you check the correctness of a program ?" "very simple -- first, you build an universal corectness checker. then, you feed it your problem. done!"
mircea_popescu: "very simple -- you reach backwards through time and jack your dad off!"
mircea_popescu: babbage sleeps happily in his grave, serene in the empirical knowledge that the anglotards of today are just as fucked in the head as the anglotards of his day.
mircea_popescu: 'Perhaps the best example of claiming credit for a problem that did not exist before is the marine chronometer. The marine chronometer enthusiasts claim it solved the “timing at sea” problem. Two men attempting to meat in front of Saint Paul's need to agree on a time of day, so how do you provide time for a ship at sea ? Very simple, you do not send out ships without a timetelling oracle onboard.'
☟︎ mircea_popescu: much lower "perceived spoiliage value", however. and this because indians aren't worth jack shit in a fight ; whreas rosas kinda scared them