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mircea_popescu: that most calls cost money, but plenty didn't, so optimized.
decimation: tcp pretends that doesn't exist
mircea_popescu: if the average per-kb page of internet communication were one gallon of gasoline, i wouldn't have to explain to idiots why i don't want to see "webcasts" and why im in irc.
decimation: well, in elder days when the internet wasn't full of orcs it kinda seemed ok
asciilifeform: wasn't talking about that, though.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: what is the origin of this 'power rangers' nick? << hours after the fork gavin & hearn brought upon the network through their alleged ineptitude (which allegation i don't credit, it was deliberate)
mircea_popescu: ie, "are or are you not reachable through some node somewhere that doesn't think you're a total waste of biological matter."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is why, in my unofficial wonderland, you can't even open a socket without transmitting an rsa-signed a 'this is me, and my wot' breath of life packet. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q4/595 << meanwhile mitre (which is very much a usg-thing) is coming out with a "you know they don't really need to work because they're special kids".
mircea_popescu: in five years people will be asking me why they can't load qntra and instead of pointing to braindamaged "code is poetry" wordpress version 1-4, i'll point at braindamaged "code is poetry" wordpress versions 1-28, AND at systemd "hey, you can talk directly to the dns resolver, because it's on a fixed port, and the legit server can't even race you because it is standards compliant and waits while you rape the stack.
mircea_popescu: srsly, can't even dump ?
mircea_popescu: dude that bitcoin-assets bash is like the best site on the interne.t
mircea_popescu: but this "in romania" discussion is entirely besides the point, not like she can't just as well do it in switzerland or luxemburg or w/e.
asciilifeform: well it doesn't, at present
asciilifeform: back to that thread: can't speak for others, but i don't intend to use the trimmed 0.5.3 in anger.
asciilifeform: take your pick of a sufficiently 'heavy' problem (not necessarily deeply-mathematical, however) and, carry it on long enough, will realize - that we don't really 'have computers.'
asciilifeform: actually i started out thinking about something quite else, when realized that we can't build a computer.
mircea_popescu: if it is i don't see it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, msdos as an os was not horrible. it wasn't great or w/e, arbitrary standards, but better oses are not actually common today.
jurov: ^ dudes feel pathetic (and don't accept btc)
asciilifeform: to briefly continue this morning's thread - don't rely on freenode's 'cloaks', if you have a consumer garbage-grade router on your premises, throw it out, replace with actual router.
mats_cd03: msf isn't necessarily an amateur tool, though it is used by amateurs
kanzure: don't they know it only counts if you come up with a novel zero day? otherwise all the points go to charity.
danielpbarron: Many of the missing passwords would prove to be relatively secure — the “JHx6fT!9” type that the company’s I.T. department implored everyone to choose.
asciilifeform: i don't want to smell poettering in my house.
punkman: mostly wouldn't boot
punkman: well I didn't keep notes, but I eventually just installed to 1TB disk
asciilifeform: did i just wake up in parallel universe, where fonts aren't vectorized and do not scale, and we're still using 24-bit LBA for disk access ?
mircea_popescu: one question left hanging in my head : once all the effort trying to push systemd is spent, why not just make a clone that's been shot in the head. specifically, that runs as an instance even if the root doesn't have it, and that masquerades as systemd to satisfy fake dependencies.
mircea_popescu: it's a pov. i don't happen to subscribe to it is all.
decimation: "her verizon internet cd won't load on ubuntu"
decimation: I don't follow the extraction economy comment
mircea_popescu: and the former can't live.
mircea_popescu: then they don't deliver
mircea_popescu: the shops that were closed by its competition won't return
mircea_popescu: ye, the people that left in exasperation at all the sprawl won't come back.
mircea_popescu: just because your old clunker is rusty doesn't mean you should add a bamboo patio on the roof.
mats_cd03: they're displaying now, i didn't know that happened with new bets
asciilifeform: 'isn't worse'
mircea_popescu: Even worse would be to think that the simplicity of Africa holds some kind of answers for Western society: remember "It Takes A Village"? Trust me on this: there is not one thing that Africa can give the West which hasn't been tried before and failed, not one thing that isn't a step backwards, and not one thing which is worse than, or that contradicts, what we have already.
mircea_popescu: somehow i deduced you mean pills just don't work in principle somehow
asciilifeform: and they aren't even infectious.
mircea_popescu: The result of decades of "foreign aid" has resulted in a continental infrastructure which, if one excludes South Africa, couldn't support Pittsburgh.
jurov: i was quite a brat: "you don't want to eat this? think of starving children in africa, they'd like this" "well, so send it to them"
asciilifeform: approximately: 'bravely the railman / drunkenly struts / if he's run over / he'll show you some guts!' - 'comrade, don't fear death!'
assbot: /hashtag/goaliesacrifice?src=hash /hashtag/goalieproblems?src=hash/hashtag/igot99problems?src=hash/hashtag/highpitchvoice?src=hash/hashtag/ballsofsteal?src=hash/hashtag/XLcup?src=hash http://t.co/4nYa7CSN8l
jurov: Hello Sir When You Gonna Message At-Lest Tell Me Sir What's Going On Are You Fixing My Bugs Or Not Are You Seeing My Bugs Or Not Do You Have Any Problem With My Bugs ? Why Are You Behave Like That Sir Why Are You Ignoring Peoples This Is Not Well Behavior Sir Please Respect Our Work Ok Cause It Was Really Hard Work Which I Had Done And You Again Didn't Send Me Message ?/???
pete_dushenski: i'll see if i can't find a place for that
asciilifeform: on account of 'but they wouldn't dare'
pete_dushenski: lessons learned 1) speak to what you know, 2) don't say "yes" to everything just because, 3) if you're going to do something, do it well, 4) have qntra articles vetted before publishing, 5) never quote wikipedia, duh.
BingoBoingo: Especially don't tell people where you keep your private key if it is derived from using an Iris scanner on your butthole
asciilifeform: hell, some apparently clever folks (taleb?) can't even be bothered to dredge up a computer, or figure out 'irc' - so, no amount of free voice will help.
mircea_popescu: but there's your answer at any rate : voice model chills speech. this includes some speech you didn't apparently want chilled.
asciilifeform: thing is, a fellow who doesn't 'believe in' or like pgp, and doesn't care for the guarantees proper use provides, can automate up to a hundred percent of the process
BingoBoingo: I haven't
kanzure: asciilifeform: because i don't want to setup a pgp user agent with my irc client
mircea_popescu: the skism is unavoidable : they don't fit here, and know they don't. they can't admit they're idiots, and so they';re stuck
asciilifeform doesn't know the story
punkman: they still can't sanitize HTML?
punkman: always found these shops curious, trying to sell furs in a place that doesn't get cold http://www.vossfurs.com/media/1087/Hersonissos1.jpg
mircea_popescu: i suppose what im saying, in the end, is that i absolutely don't see any connection between the noises coming out of europe currently and the european tradition.
punkman: girl worked hotel reception in the summer, all the russians were calling in saying they needed proof vacation was booked before embargo otherwise they weren't allowed to get on plane.
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: You don't need to worry about that.
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2014 20:07:46; asciilifeform: 'these fellows won't see it again like they won't see their ears [without mirror].]
asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't move it
xanthyos: yes i'm drugged up, i hope my judgment isn't impaired
jurov: that we aren't making fun of him
mircea_popescu: "Though Duncan hasn't been tied to the shootings, prosecutors argued that he benefited from the shootings because his gang gained in status, allowing him to sell more albums."
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mats_cd03: i can still hear the beeps ... of other participants, even. the test doesn't measure intensity afaik
BingoBoingo: What's next? The power led on the laptop isn't supposed to blink at F2#
asciilifeform: and i seriously don't get people who suggest 'use tv'. are they using computer with tv? if not, why not? and why eager to suggest to others.
asciilifeform: but you can't get the solid equivalent
decimation: yeah, they probably just didn't believe you
asciilifeform: decimation: i'd love to replace all 4 with trinitrons. but gave up after the umpteenth 'yes i promise it isn't burnt' and faded tube.
thestringpuller: Gimme t-p for my bungholio
nubbins`: literally so bright you couldn't read the knobs on a dark stage
mircea_popescu: obviously it shouldn't trigger like that.
decimation: can't get there now
asciilifeform wasn't there, did not see proverb in action
BingoBoingo: Isn't that what Kim is
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Jesus wasn't a scam till Peter and Paul got into a fight over marketing and royalties. made good tables.
asciilifeform: decimation: this one wasn't self-comprehension or any 'fancy' magic of the sort. just elementary question of 'does x compiler build with self'
BingoBoingo: Well, ad nao has more modest sidebar placement. Don't want to seem like too cheap a hooker when second potential advertiser wants to negotiate
mircea_popescu: shit, if only the transfer weren't a zipfile, i could be 50k richer
asciilifeform: if you can't 'draw' it in your head after reading this - drink less.
cazalla: that won't keep the advert current once new news is posted
mircea_popescu: this isn't THAT bad on either score.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. orthodox russian kids did find it ?
mircea_popescu: "you don't have to make yourself magic pork and beans just because you have a magic wand you ninny"
cazalla: maybe yours is different, i dunno, i don't think my cock is like my knuckles at all
cazalla: i still don't follow how you "bend" or "pop" it xanthyos, please to be making an instructional video
xanthyos: it feels good but i don't recommend it now tht i'ave had this experince
ben_vulpes: i don't even know what you're *describing*
cazalla: xanthyos, don't be playing with it while it heals too, 10 years no sex, i imagine maybe you get a bit furious with it at times
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xanthyos: can't take the gauze off my cock until saturday
Pierre_Rochard: punkman: quick search for "pluggable format python" didn't turn anything up, please elaborate
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