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mircea_popescu: didn't bagels7 just bitch that her dad didn'g buy her a computer ? im sure he must at some point have bought some grain too.
mircea_popescu: jurov czechoslovakia isn't soviet russia tho or what are we talking about here
mircea_popescu: that's the clear and incontrovertible proof that mechanized agriculture wasn't available even beyond the pale. let alone inside russia proper.
mircea_popescu: <bagels7> they didnt have tchonology like today? <<< they didn't need it, because they weren't nearly as many.
mircea_popescu: they don't like it, let them displace the other half.
mircea_popescu: the entire "putin doesn't understand how thwe world works" and "oh horror x! oh horror y!" is really the voice of a deconstructed postmodern intellect confronted with the sheer obscenity of reality.
asciilifeform: there is also the 'they're idiot orcs' construction. which isn't even false, because, well, orcs.
jurov: i don't see slaughtering own people in such idiotic manner could be better outcome
mircea_popescu: because if you don't then by your definitions eugenics, and if you do wtf you doing in slovakia instead of say b-a.
mircea_popescu: by definition you know ? if you're not hurtin yourself then why wouldn't it be fake.
jurov: asciilifeform: here they did like kolkhozs to an amount bacuse it wasn't done so violently
undata: mircea_popescu: not-maximizing isn't the same as actively grinding away at your population until as jurov points out the numbers start to really dwindle
jurov: asciilifeform just keeps coming with excuses why his drunkard compatriots can't fend for thmeselves so well
undata: asciilifeform: that a sovereign can do whatever he pleases doesn't necessarily proceed to "therefore he stole all my things and left me in mud"
asciilifeform: without sovereignty, 'your' tractor - isn't yours. it belongs (along with your starfish) to the big boys. ☟︎☟︎
undata: asciilifeform: there are innumerable things I could do in the present moment that I don't because they don't seem sensible
undata: couldn't we like... you know... not starve... man?
undata: ben_vulpes: when do they start taxing you if you don't have insurance?
jurov: if they somehow avoid being overran by chinese then i'll say it isn't a problem
jurov: and i don't see how atomic bomb or other achievements can fix that
mircea_popescu: in the us tho, you can't even buy insurance
ben_vulpes: nevermind that 325/mo doesn't buy *shit* insurance here.
asciilifeform: what 20th c. mega-empire didn't boast of 'science'? it's nearly obligatory, like the christianity of european kings
jurov: if these colony members won't procreate, then basicaly yes
mircea_popescu: in a way teh pentagon doesn't quite yet.
mircea_popescu: i don't see why he'd care about anything but sevastopol, myself.
mircea_popescu: jurov you didn't like my position on isis and i was trying to articulate it.
asciilifeform: bagels7: Can't I just make an honest living << at what?
bagels7: Can't I just make an honest living
jurov: he isn't insane.i'm merely concerned his doings might get me killed
mircea_popescu: jurov my position is, "their enemies which i don't particularly care for claim they be evil, but otherwise also got beat to shit". this i can go for.
bagels7: undata: I'm a victim, I don't have a victim mentality. there is a difference. I did not have the slighest victi mentality from age 4 to age 22 concerning my mom leaving me
mircea_popescu: undata is this one of those where kids get bored so they claim to see jesus and adults get all excited "because kids can't lie" and then the primary attention getting mechanism available to kids is making wild religious revelation claims ?
undata: bagels7: don't give in to that victim mentality
undata: stallman gets emacs points, doesn't he?
bagels7: i didn't major in art, :/
bagels7: back then I had a brain and motivation to learn, now i don't care. let white society burn
mircea_popescu: intelligence doesn't reduce lol.
mircea_popescu: maybe my judgement is idiosyncratic, but i don't see it.
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't recall a humiliating defeat of the us and its allies at the hands of either iran or taleban.
jurov: mircea_popescu i don't get it, what sets isis aart from iran and taleban?
chetty: I'm not so sure about the human material, Egyptians can't read maps ...
mircea_popescu: i don't see that flow of causality.
mircea_popescu: cazalla> did ya know that reddit doesn't even come close << yes. i knew.
chetty: you know MP recent article about press in Romania, big problem here is that Romanians knew from experience how bias the press is, Americans haven't figured it out yet.
mircea_popescu: and they don't for political reasons.
mircea_popescu: THIS is m y point exactly. whether they do or don't do better atm is immaterial. they WILL do better, necessarily, because they don't share the same lockdowns
undata: mircea_popescu: right, doesn't war tend to be about brutality, dominance, etc?
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: generally folks who have usefully sharp tools and actually understand microshit guts - aren't talking. because what is to be gained from public talk.
cazalla: mats_cd03, did ya know BingoBoingo's /. posts are responsible for qntra's record traffic day and that reddit doesn't even come close
mircea_popescu: undata okay but we weren't discussing k12 here.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: who hasn't. how many al-kwarizmis among isis now ?
mircea_popescu: you can't pick whether to have them or not.
cazalla: undata, if the nignogs had any sense, they'd all fight the cops instead of each other, but that won't ever happen
cazalla: undata, it's not that, i just hate hearing about the injustice and all this over shit, they play it over and over in the media here and we don't even have guns or nignogs
mircea_popescu: cazalla seems to me on somewhat intuitively obvious, this. taking the gun of some armed entity is one of those things where you take your life in your hands. either you know what you're doing or don't complain at the results.
cazalla: i'm not arguing that taking a gun from a cop is a bad/good thing, just that if one tries, don't be surprised if shot
mircea_popescu: there wasn't at any point the possibility ~i'd~ get shot.
mircea_popescu: bitch was in no position to do anything. i could have shot her dead. that i didn't is an act of mercy on
cazalla: undata, aren't you assuming the cop shot him simply because he is black?
undata: cazalla: the whole "nignog" thing doesn't exactly give you the intellectual high ground here
Sid3waY: In was sent here as all pricetall/trading isn't allowed in Bitcoin -_-
cazalla: undata, i don't think that at all, i just think it's a bit much to cry over a cop killing a nignog who tried to grab his gun when said nignogs kill each other in greater numbers but no media circus there, no riots either
mircea_popescu: cazalla so if the young males don't off each other what are you going to do with the losers ? teach them javascript ?
undata: I grew up in TX, where cops shooting unarmed black kids doesn't even make the news.
mats_cd03: too bad. i've got the paper version, but pulp doesn't have the "find" feature yet.
asciilifeform: 'cops shouldn't kill with impunity', parsed through intellectual honesty filter, simply implies 'a different set of bandits should be able to kill with impunity, including possibly killing original set'
chetty: undata, true, but this particular case doesn't seem to be an example of that problem
BingoBoingo: According to the radio the grand Jury finally came to a decision in the Ferguson case. Won't way what it is yet, but a good chunk of St Louis County went into lockdown.
asciilifeform: (and before anyone asks, no, that isn't an actual 'actiontek' - spoofed mac for isp that originally shipped one)
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform never grasped the appeal of 'let's now screw this bit of plastic into eye' << cause women don't look good in glasses.
cazalla: as a kid, no-one picked up that i had a lazy eye, so for many years i didn't even understand why i couldn't see what all these other kids could see with those stereogram books
cazalla: my eyes are fucked anyway, can't see 3d etc on account of lazy eye
cazalla: <asciilifeform> i can see the 7-8th 'virtual' bits of colour DAC resolution flicker. <<< see, i don't even know what this really is, so not a concern for such a person :)
ben_vulpes: i can't use contacts while programming as my prescription is way out in the tail of the distribution, where the spacing between contact fabrication points squarely frames my actual needs.
ben_vulpes: i can't use very tall monitors, as i bought these glasses in high school and they have an extremely narrow field of vision.
ben_vulpes: can't quite swing apartments this year.
ben_vulpes: i struggle with the flipside of the debt thing - what to do with the retained earnings? go long the stock market? really? i'm bullish on btc on like a 30 year timeframe so that has to have next to no bearing on the 1-2 year timeframe for handling retained earnings right now. give up the 8% or w/e the market's doing under QE or hold it all in cash because "it can't go on like this forever!11!"
mircea_popescu: and "entrepreneurs" aren't in that much better a shape, since we're on it.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm familiar with the females of my age group couch surfing, living on gov't grants, waitressing, staying up late chain smoking over the odd "piece".
mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of maggie the cat, "you can be young and without money, you just can't be old and without it"
mircea_popescu: and before you're shocked : at least half gawker employees are in exactly the same situation . if the thing didn't happen to be an organ of the socialist press, they'd be in prison like that indian diplomat for "slave labour"
mats_cd03: they can't afford to offend women, they're the demographic with most disposable income no?
mats_cd03: don't play the game if you can't take the heat, playa
jurov: it wears off, i can't even be properly paranoid anymore
ben_vulpes: don't you feel all growed up nao?
ben_vulpes: isn't that n-tube?
mircea_popescu: old story. it doesn't work, no.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: jurov: "the nakamoto institute" was working on an archive of the satoshi letters at one point. i don't know if they got anywhere with it. <<< not very far afaik. Pierre_Rochard << why not btw ? put krawsiz to some useful work!
mircea_popescu: kid wants to matter. kid doesn't have to change for this, kid wants to matter AS HE IS!
asciilifeform: so that what, i can't send the launch codes?
ben_vulpes: jurov: "the nakamoto institute" was working on an archive of the satoshi letters at one point. i don't know if they got anywhere with it.
ben_vulpes: the thought that writing to disk requires explicit concurrency semantics (DB_CONFIG requiring lock numbers configured by trial-and-error) in c++ with bdb etc (would this be true of sqlite as well?) makes me think that talking to a professionally written database over a local socket wouldn't be such a bad idea.
ben_vulpes: "since it is file based, it requires no separate database setup for users" << i don't know about this.
ben_vulpes: jurov: i can't imagine we've sequenced all virii inhabiting humans or even done a decent job at even the internal or external bacteriospheres
adlai: can't a man lurk these days
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mats_cd03: a dummy didn't include a tx fee, now funds are in limbo
mircea_popescu: we (tm) don't think so, but we (tm) would very much like this cultish belief verified independently and scientifically.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla well we don't know yet and apparently won't know for a while, rigt ?