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trinque: mircea_popescu: is there a setting for that? otherwise gonna have to wait a bit
trinque: that's not a fp
mircea_popescu: trinque how does it transform a short fp into the whole thing ? "15F6BC08DC5EC056" is insecure enough.
trinque: Framedragger: I decided to eat a beach ball whaddayawant
mircea_popescu: "Would it matter if the mainstream media did a better job? Or do we live in a post-truth age in which we are so distrusted that our investigations will be dismissed, if they are seen at all? I’m not sure, but we must at least try."
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "In 2008, the three broadcast networks, in their nightly news programs, devoted over the entire year a total of three hours and 40 minutes to issues reporting (defined as independent coverage of election issues, not arising from candidate statements or debates). In 2016, that plummeted to a grand total of just 36 minutes."
mircea_popescu: which is why stories about "the aliens" always have in clinical practice a little coda about one's father in law or w/e.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/01/07/introducing-prince-waterbath/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Introducing Prince Waterbath.
trinque: I can't put it past these idiots that they'd try a limited hangout on their impending 91
trinque: threat towards family, lots of shit to motivate a guy.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> maybe mod6 does << there are a number of different lists.
trinque: http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Shots-fired-at-airport-in-Ft-Lauderdale-409906945.html << Sources tell the news network that a man matching Santiago's description walked into the FBI office in Anchorage, Alaska two months ago and said the government was forcing him to watch ISIS videos.
mircea_popescu: phf every whorish ditz i ever knew has a linkedin account.
phf: huh, interesting. i can see that, i wonder if you need to be at a ведомственное скб or if it's the opposite, to get away with stuff like that
asciilifeform: we didn't have a karabin -- afaik!
phf: presumably stored in an the country house attic between floorboards. i doubt he used nazi memorabilia at work. at least that's how we had a gewehr or a karabiner for a very long time. grandfather though it was appropriate to teach a tyke how to clean a gun with the only gun available in the dusty attic, because can't really use it or take it out or...
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 00:36 phf: that's a nice ruler, reminds me of childhood https://www.flickr.com/photos/ciagov/30245415043/in/album-72157674852500522/
phf: that's a nice ruler, reminds me of childhood https://www.flickr.com/photos/ciagov/30245415043/in/album-72157674852500522/ ☟︎
phf: there's a set of hoops that one can jump through in order to delete own linkedin account, and then they still resurrect it every time they update their privacy policy or when the moon is just right. "414 million users"
mircea_popescu: http://labs.openviewpartners.com/linkedin-pricing-strategy/#.WHAoLFJOm-I << in random lulz. the following elements are present : "experts" with nary a clue, expertise predicated entirely on context in a purely substance-free lacanian manner ; "controversy" in the sense of, wholly worthless item lost some of the arbitrary "value" it never had, what could be the possible "explanations" that nevertheless avoid stating the obviou
ben_vulpes: pgAdmin 4 is a feature rich open source PostgreSQL client. It has support for almost every feature in PostgreSQL. The only downside is that the cross-plattform UI really doesn’t live up to the expectations of a native Mac app.Postico on the other hand, is a very modern Mac app. It’s made by the same people that maintain Postgres.app, and we think you’ll like it!
mircea_popescu: and yes it's trivial to smell the "marketing contributes to revenue - everyone else to costs" folk a mile away. but you have to WANT TO.
mircea_popescu: for as long as one entertains even faint delusions that who knows, packard is maybe a person too, that "coreboot" retarded, what's her name, is maybe human like we are, that gavin or hearn have mothers and fathers and children and smell roses rather than you know, dwelling in rats nests like the rats they are and come out of ootheca like any other kitchen cockroach - for as long as that delusion is even vaguely present it's n
mircea_popescu: constantly with this "wisdom" of fligh response, nothing's worth drying for, there's always going to be a virgin forest somewhere to run to. run to and... what ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 18:25 mircea_popescu: this apple, nsa, whatever, nobody gives a shit, but this "apple" is the empire's last hope, half-Alphabet-half-AAPL-half-contractors whatever it is.
asciilifeform: 'We decided we needed to take a different — and bolder — approach to this problem. We believe people who write and share ideas should be rewarded on their ability to enlighten and inform, not simply their ability to attract a few seconds of attention. ' << lel, ordinary spamatronics not enough, gotta also have http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594901 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: is this a maiakovski reference ?
mircea_popescu: no dude, it's not a discussion of technology omfg. it's a discussion of politics.
mircea_popescu: dude who's talking of proper box. he can set up a fucking livejournal for all anyone cares. a myspace profile
asciilifeform: there is a very large herd of 'just want-to' piglets who, yes, end in the meat yards every time and very surprised
mircea_popescu: it is, literally, more respectable a use of his time to upload homemade goat porn to 4chan
mircea_popescu: taleb will, with all the panache of a dedicated goat fucker, publish items on medium.com
asciilifeform: hijackings like xorg, debian, etc ran on the fumes remaining in what was once a very tall tank of respectability cachet of academia, american heavy industry, etc.
mircea_popescu: the "us vs them" thing is very evidently manifest. it also happened to work for them a lot better back in 2000, when they owned the de facto currency.
asciilifeform: 'There is no information available on the XFree86 home page on becoming an XFree86 developer. Information for new developers consists of the mention of a couple of mailing list addresses in the README document included in the XFree86 4.3 release.' << picture how d00d would react to meeting trb
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it had been, say, ~considerably~ smaller a la systemv's cat command (old thread), it'd be at least worth contemplating. but yes, it was a tall pile of shit even in 1993
mircea_popescu: it is also eerily reminiscent of "political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single"
mircea_popescu: rather than port extant drivers to a twice defunct pile of code made by mit i'd rather paint tits on a boar.
mircea_popescu: then create a new ukraine for them, which then entirely bankrupt in a decade.
asciilifeform: 'The 'fetchmail' project has contributions from over 800 developers. Over the last two years there were about 250 contributors to XFree86, a project more than a hundred times larger.'
mircea_popescu: and guess who became a "debian developer" right after.
asciilifeform: that anyone followed him in that direction - is not a credit to these anyones
mircea_popescu: the idiotic ustard discursive posturing was intolerable even cca 2003. "Persistent problems in XFree86 development have become widely recognised within the X community. I have talked to people throughout the X community in a search for solutions." check out the utter nigger talk.
mircea_popescu: srsly, 2.5mn dollars is a fraction of what they want ?
asciilifeform: context of the XFree86 Core Team, which makes his membership of that team unviable. As a consequence, Keith Packard is no longer a member of the XFree86 Core Team.'
asciilifeform: 'It has been brought to the attention of the XFree86 Core Team that one of its members, Keith Packard, has been actively (but privately) seeking out support for a fork of XFree86 that would be led by himself. He is also in the process of forming a by-invitation-only group of vested interests to discuss privately concerns he has about XFree86 and the future of X. He has consistently refused to even disclose these concerns within the
mircea_popescu: gotta solve this dispute somehow. the correct somehow is to start bolting down parts. first we check this, then we can see if it's a matter of cl implementation is fine, ui is bad.
trinque haxing a viewer for xev output for clim's own window
asciilifeform: clim is a uitron
mircea_popescu: hey, he said benchmark, i proposed a benchmark. lotta branching lotta iterations, some memory allocation. should be plenty obvious.
asciilifeform: it isn't about a fixed 10x or 100x, winblows-style, that would be fixable with iron
asciilifeform: if trinque made a gadget that actually benchmarks ui delays (i.e. injects keystroke via keyboard port and times reaction on display) it'd be quite spiffy and i'd even buy it.
trinque back with a benchmark
trinque: we staring from a conclusion or are we doing a benchmark
asciilifeform: where it is ~not~ a matter of 'all i gotta do is shave some cycles'
asciilifeform: there is such a thing as ~algorithmically dog slow~ design
asciilifeform: or, satan forbid, a clickable list of 100,001 objects.
asciilifeform: and this is before writing code. now make a gui widget that, e.g., scrolls through 100kB of text (light work even for 486, normally) and see what happens.
mircea_popescu: trinque run mp hash for 512 bits on a day's worth of logs, report ?
asciilifeform: if i can feel delay between pressing a button, clicking a control, etc. and things happening -- this is called dog-slow.
trinque: asciilifeform: define a benchmark and I'll run right now.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you think the work reduced to 'slam other pngs in there', you're in for a surprise.
ben_vulpes: yeah, emerge, network managers, gui wrappers around os stuff is very uninteresting (but i suppose useful in the case of eg fs browser 'dired' and climacsy presentations). what i *want* is a lispy gui toolkit and i do not give one screaming fuck re "omg ancient athena widgets"
asciilifeform: gentoo could theoretically be improved -- but not by bolting a hacked-together cl layer ON TOP OF pythonic emerge
trinque: I think he would've been wiser to say "I wish to replace emacs with a CL environment" than "this is a step towards sane computing" or somesuch
asciilifeform: about, e.g., impedance mismatches in a comp system, or the failure of massive abstraction towers, or any of what i consider to be the basic observations
ben_vulpes: even if it's a pile of shit g_l found and tar'd up.
ben_vulpes: four hundred dollars is a pittance to pay for a documented common lisp ui development story
asciilifeform: 'Imagine a witch doctor in a society that doesn’t know how to make glass. A bottle washes up on the shore. It has amazing properties. He puts it on a stick and waves it around and convinces his fellows that he has got some of those amazing properties himself.'
phf: "or you could ignore all of this stupid shit and buy a Masamune for 410USD plus the price of the hardware"
mircea_popescu: i know but why would you use the ssh client as a text editor
asciilifeform: if you successfully connect, you give the other side a sample of your keystroke timings, which for some reason usg is obsessed with
asciilifeform: but even failing this, diffiehellman gives the other side a sample from your rng.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'best' case is if openssl is a heartbleeder
mircea_popescu: that it crashes your ssh client, gains control of your box as the user that ran it, escalates it to root privilege, installs a rootkit that you can't take out without throwing out the mobo + hdd and disappears in a puff of smoke.
ben_vulpes: what are the security risks of opening an ssh connection to a possibly hostile host?
asciilifeform: lel, urbit apparently dead enough that a new one is conjured up, https://blockstack.org/blog/funding-the-new-decentralized-internet
asciilifeform: 'If the stories I'd heard were true, taking a tiny bit of it, a micro-dose, had the potential to make my workday more productive than ever.' << lulz
asciilifeform: this openai thing, is, i suppose, a parallel production
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: OpenAI Blog: <https://openai.com/>; About OpenAI: <https://openai.com/about/>; Elon Musk And Peter Thiel Launch OpenAI , A Non-Profit Artificial ...: <http://www.forbes.com/sites/theopriestley/2015/12/11/elon-musk-and-peter-thiel-launch-openai-a-non-profit-artificial-intelligence-research-company/>
mircea_popescu: i fail to see this potential. looks entirely like "hey guise, let's agree on definition of ai that allows the pretense of sv technologee to survive a little longer plox "
mircea_popescu: i'm hard pressed to see anything in the "65bn" worth of vaporware that ycombinator counts for itself. they did what, a bunch of groupons/mediums ? ie, shareholder fraud of the cooked books version and shareholder fraud of the pie in the sky version ?
asciilifeform: ^ cia's own ycombinator, decades old, is equally a circus, but makes imho for much more entertaining reading material (they fund wunderwaffenists)
mircea_popescu: yeah, ye olde "sam altman is the repository of the human decency of being a trite fuckwit just like sam altman"
mircea_popescu: a decade ago there was some cursory but detectable ranking by sense. much more gimmicky today.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform stoya is a competent fucktoy. altman is not a competent anything.
asciilifeform: iirc he has a waterproof крыша
mircea_popescu: i don't care. there's no need for each individual item to be discussed. guy exists today because of the yahoo marketing ponzi scheme pre 2001 bubble. nfi why he's not in jail, but it is a shameful macula on the usg "justice" system.
mircea_popescu: a... "presence storm" ?
asciilifeform: 'urbit is down tonight' 'curtis We were trying to subscribe urbit-meta to fora notifications, something very reasonable that we should have done a long time ago, and ended up producing a "presence storm." We'll fix it a little more carefully and methodically tomorrow -- or try, at least. :-) In the meantime, I've turned off all our major stars.'
trinque: BingoBoingo: iirc there was a thread about pedos becoming the next protected class
trinque: also loller at the private evidence; must've been a small dick pic
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: what was the reasoning behind http://btcbase.org/patches/makefiles#L378 again? << this ties those files together to make it a "grab-bag" of a release ; bunch of previous discussions
mircea_popescu: rather curious how trump will navigate the dire straights of maga absolutely requiring a repeal of 20 years' worth of "harassment" business.
mircea_popescu: https://web.archive.org/web/20041207225119/http://www.courttv.com/archive/legaldocs/government/packwood2.html << in other "can do whatevers", packwood, a 1980s powerhouse (singlehandedly fucked up clinton's own obamacare, among other highlights), chased out of senate because he may have kissed a girl at a party and stuff of that nature.
mircea_popescu: they had a whole "military operation planning" thingee with a map and errything, just like in the movies.
asciilifeform: the mega-lul here is that this is a crock o'shit
asciilifeform: 'JFHQ-NCR operates within the scope of the law. It will not engage in direct law enforcement activities, but when requested by civil authorities and approved by the civilian leadership of DOD, it supports civil authorities in their public safety missions. Existence of a JFHQ enables better planning by all parties, to the benefit of the public.'
trinque: these people wish the us could fart out a hitler to make them feel important enough to round up
mircea_popescu: we're discussing obama here. i assume it must be something akin to the man - stole a name, ran with it.