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asciilifeform: 01:26 < adlai> hint: try finding the 2nd factor
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: you can have tiger that also dun attack. so long as he's fed. and in good mood. neh?
asciilifeform: wolf in the forest, also trained?
asciilifeform: trained?
asciilifeform: this is what, the 5th d00d.
asciilifeform: lol, 01:53 < fenn> somehow i knew both these names and never put it together
asciilifeform: http://gnusha.org/logs/2017-08-29.log << lulzy, i had nfi adlai wanted to work pr for us!111
asciilifeform: how all - afaik - good sf -- worked. ( notice, past tense.. )
asciilifeform: this is an extremely common thing.
asciilifeform: orig b00k rocked because left much to imagination.
asciilifeform: but the observation stands.
asciilifeform: rest -- iirc by son
asciilifeform: a few of them were , sadly, by herbert
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: as soon as he started shitting out sequels where the details filled in -- permanent ruin.
asciilifeform: much of the appeal of the b00k, imho, was that it left such detail to imagination. ☟︎
asciilifeform: herbert does not say ~how~ they got trained.
asciilifeform: in the b00k, it was described that they were selected & trained, and somewhat rare ( i.e. if yours got killed, it was an expensive problem , to replace )
asciilifeform: ( a more refined variant of the real-life 19th c profession of 'calculator' )
asciilifeform: original was entertaining. mentat was a sort of artisan, humancalculator-rationator.
asciilifeform: they were rubbish
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja ever read 'dune' ?
asciilifeform: lol, and witness the 'montrezors' in linked thread
asciilifeform: !#s esl
asciilifeform: pretty serious concern
asciilifeform: out of curiousity, kanzure , in what do you read, other than english ?
asciilifeform: ( should've guessed, 'galtse', lol )
asciilifeform: lol that link seems to consist entirely of... monologues from atlasfucked
asciilifeform: ( and for so long as 1 honest unit exists, for yoke test -- to even a child, working with bare hands )
asciilifeform: if you substitute a chip that shits out prng stream, in place of the transform specified in http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/fg-genesis.vpatch -- it will be immediately obvious to anyone who follows my audit recipe.
asciilifeform: picture you as the enemy. you control the fab. what is your next move ?
asciilifeform: ( it's a cpld, to be pedantic. )
asciilifeform: 72 macrocells.
asciilifeform: there aren't many smaller fpga sold than the 9572.
asciilifeform: kanzure: what means 'shit fpga' ?
asciilifeform: so that instead of the specified circuit, it instead does something different. and such that i and the buyers, do not immediately find out .
asciilifeform: kanzure: believe or not, i keep up with the literature. tell me how to boobytrap fpga.
asciilifeform: ( which expects, e.g., a TB output, known only to the auditor )
asciilifeform: takes 2 arbitrary waveforms, on the 2 input jacks, has nfi whether they come from the analogue boards that ship with the unit, or from audit machine.
asciilifeform: kanzure: it's an fpga .
asciilifeform: consider, kanzure , let's say you're fuhrer of ftmeade. which transistor in the 9572 will you diddle, to undetectably sabotage FUCKGOATS.
asciilifeform: trinque: humour the man. maybe he learns something. ( maybe even -- we learn something )
asciilifeform: never seen.
asciilifeform: nfi what that is/was.
asciilifeform: because i am an engineer ( for bread -- reverse-engineer ) , not an emperor
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-24#1617495 << pertinent thread ☝︎
asciilifeform: where you (opponent) have no idea what will be loaded, and where.
asciilifeform: kanzure: i've always wanted to discuss, with clueful folx, what specifically one ought to put in 'doping trojan' to sabotage an fpga
asciilifeform: and not somewhere else.
asciilifeform: who promised that it will be 'nth dram cell' ?
asciilifeform: understand what even 0.00001% ocr error rate means in re ic layout ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: kanzure: ever used ?
asciilifeform: ( would be spiffy tho. )
asciilifeform: i don't recall him ever going from micrograph to fpga bitstream format
asciilifeform: presumably they had to pry apart the closed x86 floorplanner turds.
asciilifeform: kanzure: ask the folx who did the reversing, not me, why took so long.
asciilifeform: which means NO black boxes, NO ic for which i did not personally approve the gate layout, and NO c/cpp code anywhere inside, as well as machine arch which boundschecks all array accesses.
asciilifeform: kanzure: 'nato-free' means, approximately, 'no place for nsa to hide'.
asciilifeform: trinque: i don't disagree
asciilifeform: as in, machine for cad, crypto, chitchat, breaking rsa, viewing pr0n, whichever it is that one does.
asciilifeform: as in, the item on your desk
asciilifeform: kanzure: workstation
asciilifeform: trinque: the things that were not designed with fit-in-head, fit in NO head.
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: trinque: say moar ?
asciilifeform: ( moar detail here, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=284 , if yer curious . )
asciilifeform: !#s fits in head
asciilifeform: grr
asciilifeform: #!s fits in head
asciilifeform: one that :
asciilifeform: ( soft and iron both. )
asciilifeform: kanzure: mp insists that he 'has no goals', but i've got a few. one of them, is a 100% nato-free workstation comp. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( and yes, i am no stranger to buying surplus instruments. but they only SEEM cheap. what if you needed 25 of them ? or a guarantee that they continue to work for six months, without major interruption ? then welcome back to seven-figure list price. )
asciilifeform: but it scarcely qualifies, costwise, as 'home'
asciilifeform: *to me
asciilifeform: fib is interesting to be strictly from home-fab pov
asciilifeform: aah
asciilifeform: ( i assumed 'goon house' means warehouse with 'infinite' floor or similar )
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: ( nuffin' wrong with that, i suppose, if you have infinite floor space )
asciilifeform: so... purchased 'just in case' ?
asciilifeform: what do you image with your FIB, kanzure ?
asciilifeform: early 1990s.
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: my microscopy plans are very modest : 1uM ic dies.
asciilifeform: supposing it were cheap, but, even more importantly, SMALL
asciilifeform: nope. but would buy !
asciilifeform: or compact electron microscope.
asciilifeform: i'd buy a desktop atomic force microscope, say.
asciilifeform: plenty of unsolved technical problems, of the 'yes, golden toilet from lockheed exists, but how about a human-priced version that pisses on patents and 'property''
asciilifeform: aite... what DO you have ? can haz catalogue ?
asciilifeform: i'd buy
asciilifeform: iirc you were making one in '07
asciilifeform: gcms?
asciilifeform: fine, desktop hplc ?
asciilifeform: or desktop ic fab
asciilifeform: how about cheap laser diode ?
asciilifeform: electroporator is trivial, i can get surplus one or make own for a hundy
asciilifeform: so far i see only the page where i can read his noise