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mircea_popescu: internet "of today" runs into internet of 1990s : maddox saying "the obvious" that "nobody wants to hear", inexplicably enough nobody gives a shit.
mircea_popescu: . You're not hip, and you're hoping desperately that nobody notices."
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in random lulz, "Using slang you didn't come up with isn't a substitute for having a personality. And that's the Internet in a nutshell today: a bunch of vapid morons trying to be cool by parroting phrases back and forth to each other. It's meme language, and just like people use memes as a substitute for their inability to tell a joke or make a cogent statement, people use this type of language to seem hip-adjacent
mircea_popescu: "and the rest will follow" ?
PeterL: and I should find a better place to keep my files, currently I have it on github
a111: Logged on 2018-09-15 14:42 asciilifeform: this makes for 2 working keccaks nao, unless i'm forgetting somebody's
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-15#1850574 << I also made a keccak implementation, but it needs some tests to verify it is consistent with the standard and then I should make a gensis vpatch for it ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (tl;dr : youtube wizard attempts to start hasbro consumer boycott because it rustled his hotpockets or something ; item fizzles.)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty, fxd
mircea_popescu: check 'em out, like, figuring things out and shit!
mircea_popescu: ds and at Holloman. With the capabilities of modern electronics and batteries, it's possible that such a system wouldn't even need to be hard wired. "
mircea_popescu: lol, "It seems more plausible that a foreign operative or an operative working on a foreign government's behalf might have been able to install an antenna/sensor apparatus onto the top of a structure that is part of the facility and within line-of-sight of the valley below without anyone noticing. This could allow them to persistently gather electronic intelligence on whatever might be happening on, around, and over White San
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=11 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 9/04/2018
mircea_popescu: lol that's better
BingoBoingo: With another headline: "Autora de "Cómo matar a tu marido" es acusada de matar a su marido"
a111: Logged on 2018-09-15 18:06 trinque: "trinque is upgrading to 486DX2 for alf" << ahahahaha
BingoBoingo: Right now I am working on a lessons learned for the next Republican pioneers, most of which based on contemplation of the now concerns the humble backpack
mircea_popescu: or the next ... this is the sort of thing that benefits from quiet contemplation.
BingoBoingo: There's some other things to get to first, but a second edition should be doable sometime this year
mircea_popescu: http://bingology.net/2016/01/24/the-theoretical-foundation-of-social-engineering-practice/ << ftr this isn't even half bad ; BingoBoingo consider re-writing like a 2nd edition of it ? in light of accumulating experience ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-15 18:06 trinque: "trinque is upgrading to 486DX2 for alf" << ahahahaha
trinque: "trinque is upgrading to 486DX2 for alf" << ahahahaha ☟︎☟︎
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=10 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 9/03/2018
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: fxd, tyvm
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, "The habit of producing the "OK" symbol also happens to be many Anglophones" -> ????
Mocky: but i like on that page how even the sidebar headlines have tldr;
mircea_popescu: though in fairness esthlos impl is more didactic than optimized.
mircea_popescu: i suspect we'll have to unroll it, yes.
asciilifeform: prolly will need asm keccaks, given how heavy thing seems to be
mircea_popescu: "Though I wouldn't try the thing on files larger than a megabyte at the moment." <<->> "As you can imagine, large files may give you ample time to draw a bath" or something.
esthlos: okay, thanks. I'll be more clear
mircea_popescu: and don't put dire mysterious warnings like that in your work, it turns off people for no real reason.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-15 01:48 mircea_popescu: esthlos "Though I wouldn't try the thing on files larger than a megabyte at the moment." whynot ?
mircea_popescu: oh, oh, the keccak. do me a favour and say http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-15#1850556 << just because it will take a while. should work just fine. else we'll drown in refwork. ☝︎
esthlos: mircea_popescu: just because it will take a while. should work just fine.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850507 -> that's the first version of the protocol; current, updated version is on trilema: http://trilema.com/2018/euloras-communication-protocol-restated/ ☝︎
BingoBoingo: If you already know its there the size of Metropilis, Illinois isn't going to pack much of a punch
BingoBoingo: Yeah, but Middle Western naming Irony only tends to give chuckles when its a surprise
BingoBoingo: The Middle west is full of many of these
mircea_popescu: irony of ironies : there exists such a place as "grand Island", nebraska.
mircea_popescu: esthlos "Though I wouldn't try the thing on files larger than a megabyte at the moment." whynot ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: apparently the heavens above don't think so very much of this miami-led cvasi-"independence" they got.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850389 << thanks phf! ☝︎
Mocky: I'm working on a laptop hooked up to a 4k tv, so every time the power cycles I end up sitting listening to the neighborhood AC units powering down until my tv comes back.
lobbes: Mocky: yeah, I'm waiting for the power grid to start faffing about over here too. So far though, ~0 effects felt from the old 'cane
BingoBoingo: Ah, just have to worry about the local utility grunts knocking out your power now. Keep the camp stove and baked beans on standby
Mocky: on the other side of town i know powers been out for hours
Mocky: not all that much of a hurricane here but powers been out at least 2 dozen times for about a minute each.
BingoBoingo: tyvm
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 21:51 Mocky: need to make some friends in the local halal markets
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850526 << TURKISH BAFFS!!!1 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 21:46 BingoBoingo: Brian in the head wants to end conversations with the boys quickly and efficiently: "Como estás?" "Tu madre me chupas bien"
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 21:45 Mocky: seems like there are a lot of dialects from gulf to african
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850520 << yes but mis'r (egypt) is the tv arabic. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 21:36 Mocky: slow start, but i think i'm going to like arabic
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850511 <<< this seems a pretty safe bet. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the camwhoring economics are described here http://trilema.com/2016/the-bizarro-world-of-camwhoring/
BingoBoingo: I think the dude chatted with the girl, kept appointments, and then imported her if I remember right
Mocky: i don't think what would have ever occurred to me BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: You could also see if there's some camho's that want a stable appointment. iirc that's how shinohai learned spanish
Mocky: need to make some friends in the local halal markets ☟︎
Mocky: census data claims that the zipcode where I live has the highest concentration of arabs in the state, which if you do the math is ~700
asciilifeform: ( i suspect tho, that this kind of thing is curable with time. e.g. asciilifeform was taught brit eng, not ameri-, but i doubt that anybody can tell this today )
asciilifeform: Mocky: asciilifeform at one time worked for a d00d who spoke the palestinian dialect. he griped that on trips to e.g. riyard he was scoffed at 'like if spoke alabama english in nyc'
BingoBoingo: Brian in the head wants to end conversations with the boys quickly and efficiently: "Como estás?" "Tu madre me chupas bien" ☟︎
Mocky: seems like there are a lot of dialects from gulf to african ☟︎
BingoBoingo: But if the speaker's got tits, Brian in the head is willing to work a bit.
BingoBoingo: Brian in the head dun want to work to decode shit the boys say.
asciilifeform doesn't doubt that it worx
BingoBoingo: Mocky: What you need is a live speaker that is also interesting to the eyes
asciilifeform: Mocky: very difficult ( at least i found ) to grasp the phonology without a live speaker.
Mocky: i already like that there's no capitalization. i need to find a native speaker
Mocky: slow start, but i think i'm going to like arabic ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'ma stfu at this point, as i promised to mircea_popescu not to interfere in euloric matters. will answer q strictly re gnatology, if diana_coman runs into any puzzlers.
asciilifeform: ( item was copied from asciilifeform's older and not specifically related notes re 'g' , wanted to put in l0gz. )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: asciilifeform forgot that you already had the protocol. then you do not need any of this, indeed.
diana_coman: at any rate, from server's point of view, it doesn't care - it will answer to legitimate messages and that is that; it's more of a client concern and up to them how they handle that i.e. indeed pretty much how long they wait/when do they consider server unreachable and what they do
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it might help to read the protocol perhaps?
asciilifeform: anyway there is prolly >1 sane way to do this.
asciilifeform: the salt, goes in the cipherola payload, so gets switched out in erry round. ( given as you have a trng, this is not an exorbitant entropy expense )
asciilifeform: ( anybody lacking the secretsalt and currentkey, sees simply 512byte of rng )
asciilifeform: ideally these will not be distinguishable by any third party from any other type of packet.
asciilifeform: ( a reply here, in turn, is not the idjit tcp 'ack', but a packet containing hash(currentsecretsalt + prevpacket) + cipherola-to-current-key , i.e. can only have been generated by the box on the other end, and can only be authenticated by yours
asciilifeform: the only adjustable knob becomes , how long to wait for an expected reply before pronouncing the connection 'dead', and that's it
asciilifeform: this way you also dun have to concern with 'packet congestion', a perennial plague of tcpdom
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if one receives an old (i.e. not currently expected ) packet ( e.g. straggler from a previous round ) it gets rejected in the same way as any other rubbish.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Package is in the mail ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the simplest way i thought of to finesse the reordering thing is simply to run synchronously ( i.e. at no point does sender send a new packet unless old one replied; if there's no reply, sender retries a certain # of times, and if still silence, declares the connection broken )
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 17:09 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850418 << yes, none of that.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850460 -> sounds good; glad I published this stuff now rather than later! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 16:55 asciilifeform: diana_coman: keep in mind that udp packets can get arbitrarily reordered in flight.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850448 -> yes, unreliable but that's not the concern at this level ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 18:09 phf: asciilifeform: i have a bigendian box and i also tested at least one call for bigendian test on it. i think it was diana_coman's keccak though
asciilifeform: ( if one can be found that fits 'in pocket' )
phf: theoretically, i think it was whatever gnat came with openbsd packages, since that was easiest thing to spin up on the machine in question.
asciilifeform: at some point i'd like to get a bigendian box of some description into pizarro , for such work
asciilifeform: ( good chance to test just how portable is the latter )
asciilifeform: but since phf has a bigendian gnat, could theoretically build ave1's
asciilifeform: ( imho what we need is the canonical ave1 gnat, on bigendian )
phf: asciilifeform: i have a bigendian box and i also tested at least one call for bigendian test on it. i think it was diana_coman's keccak though ☟︎