asciilifeform: trinque: you're mixing layers. basic mechanics of gossiptron is not in dispute, q was re how to query a db by more than 1 possible index col
asciilifeform: it fails because -- in the particular example i gave -- it ain't 1:1
asciilifeform: ( and not defined away, but solved. )
asciilifeform: trinque: lemme confess to you the context : i recently took a break from $usual to write an ada www server, and quickly barfed. because thought 'and what, it also gotta handle POSTs, and quickly becomes asinine mess of horror'
asciilifeform: ( this is not necessarily a bad idea, but i'd like to hear moar re how )
asciilifeform: trinque: so we're contemplating a separation of reads and writes into unlike protocols ?
asciilifeform: kad can only search by hash of entire parcel.
asciilifeform: how do i make a phuctor at all with your algo ? ( how do users submit a key ?? )
asciilifeform: trinque: 'www server should serve statics' is great until you realize that you use phf's search box every day and it's a dynamicism
asciilifeform: kad did this with traditional 'time to live' but that is promisetronic ultimately
asciilifeform: the tricky bit is how to propagate these without ending up with 'no individual node gives anything to allcomers, yes, but allcomer can ring the whole world as a bell and it never stops'
asciilifeform: ( is what asciilifeform's emulated mircea_popescutron replied )
asciilifeform: what will you suggest to the iphonist ? 'fuck off and go sit on a road cone' ?
asciilifeform: that works for folx 'with jobs, jerry, and office' -- i.e. fleet of unix boxes
asciilifeform: asciilifeform walks around with maybe a dozen
asciilifeform: trinque ( and others ) : out of curiosity, how many ipv4's do you personally keep in yer head ? ( NOT counting 'magics' , e.g. 127.0.0.1 )☟︎
asciilifeform: with the attendant unearned rents for derps.
asciilifeform: then dns will still exist 100y from nao
asciilifeform: pov is from area denial op ( kill dns as a thing perceived to be required by the cattle ) rather than 'for republic', was what i thought
asciilifeform: trinque: yer comparing unlikes. d00d with same phone # for 50 yrs != shouting to crowd containing entire iq bellcurve and going for max % who remember when they get home
asciilifeform: mnemonism is a thing. 200+yrs state of art.
asciilifeform: because you ain't remembering, you're megaphoning
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: contemplated scenario is d00d shouting propaganda, go to joepunishesmaryslowlywithabroomstickinaconcerthall.com and that turns into 123.45.67.89 etc
asciilifeform: some people have allergy to digits, it seems☟︎
asciilifeform: incidentally, re 'raw ip addrs hurt me head' folx -- possibly something like http://gurno.com/adam/mne ( e.g. '66.33.193.225 = far-cab-raw-tap' ) would cure'em☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: rsa is the insecticide against snoops on the wires, and likewise against enemy agents monkeying with the messages en route or impersonating source.
asciilifeform: this is a gross oversimplification but must suffice for now.
asciilifeform: AlfredAlfer: so let's say you want to read , e.g., der sturmer. your let a friend's box know. the friend's -- yet again same, asks others. then ds box eventually reached, and passes text back up the chain to you.
asciilifeform: no cell knows about any others but its immediate neighbors.
asciilifeform: AlfredAlfer: consider how the proverbial 'terrorist cell' works.
