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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: right, but he eventually retooled and went to the obvious sane thing, cnc kit
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: IIrc, Cody's first dance was single shot plastic thing that required a 10 penny nail for the firing pin
asciilifeform: phf: i followed the recipe on ave1's site, lol
phf: asciilifeform: after failing twice i decided to read the readme lol ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: -cross is the build-for-arm64-on-pc but you prolly already knew this.
phf: is ada-musl-cross-2018-06-01 the latest version of ave1's ada?
nicoleci: asciilifeform: interesting and no i have not yet come across any references to framedragger
asciilifeform: similar situation to mike_c's wot viewer, which stayed alive for coupla yrs after he expired.
asciilifeform: perhaps he paid for the hoster in advance, or whoknows, still tuned in quietly, but not known to me which.
asciilifeform: nicoleci: (possibly you already know, from reading l0gz) Framedragger was a briefly-productive fella who walked off into the desert coupla yrs ago; his www is (for nao) alive.
asciilifeform: excluding ( again, per usg customs, can't speak for the phree world ) the bolt.
asciilifeform: ( for n00bz/non-aficionados -- 'receiver' is the part between stock and barrel, roughly )
nicoleci: asciilifeform: thanks - working on it now :) i wasnt sure how the links would show in the post
asciilifeform: ( ancient -- 1920s? -- laws, never cancelled, consider 'receiver' to be the usg-controlled item )
asciilifeform: it dun make barrels, only the back half of piece, but in usa barrels are sold openly
asciilifeform: mats: and the moar recent items not '3d printed', d00d sold a little cnc milling thing
asciilifeform: mats: perhaps not enuff of trap
asciilifeform: ( imho they also oughta be to something other than Framedragger's logtron, which i suspect is not long to live ) ☟︎
mats: isn't the fact that they're 3d-printed the booby trap?
asciilifeform: nicoleci: couldja plz make the links -- clickable
asciilifeform: i.e. 'wouldn't turn asset'
asciilifeform: or even as mundane as refusal to play 'death ray seller' stooge role in $provocation-of-the-day ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: and ditto the other fella
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=17 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 9/09/2018
asciilifeform: btw ftr i suspect that the wilson d00d wasn't nailed for 'distibuting evil schematics', they're ~useless as is, but for refusing to sabotage'em and play gapon for usg
asciilifeform: ( even supposing they didn't -- the place from which hypothetical box originates, definitely does )
a111: Logged on 2016-12-03 04:37 asciilifeform: did they put the d00d who was picked up for 'child pr0n' the day he demonstrated the glock-on-quadcopter ?
asciilifeform: ahahahaha BingoBoingo , loox like they finally http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-03#1577246 him ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if you don't get 25km/h AVERAGE, you'll take more than two weeks.
PeterL: have we already explored small dirigible with pv panels on top and electric motor?
asciilifeform: ( balloons per se are prolly not interesting from pov of this application, but same principle could be usable in water )
a111: Logged on 2015-03-28 03:03 asciilifeform: for those who insist on balloons, at least study the state of the art: http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/41791.html/fusen-bakudan-balloon-bomb
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-28#1076087 << thread. ☝︎
asciilifeform: so conceivably applicable to water.
asciilifeform: ww2 jp accomplished however a similarly improbable feat, with 50kg ~balloons~, which had simple 'music box' mechanism that only knew how to drop ballast and vent gas, so as to get into- and out- of current.
asciilifeform: afaik the principal boojum that puts this in the 'prolly not happening' , is that ocean is not 'random', has strong currents.
asciilifeform: i also suggested to schwartz to place mesh radio in the bottles, but thread went nowhere.
asciilifeform: ( exercise for reader : compute the minimal necessary counter-force that gyro in a 5kg bottle must exert , to eventually converge on destination... )
asciilifeform: $100 transcontinentator...
asciilifeform: you power the gyro with the motion of the thing itself, in waves, a la japanese wristwatch.
asciilifeform: al schwartz at one time was into 'messages in bottles' , dropped in various spots from airplanes, tracked receipt ( many folx actually mailed in ! the postcard ). i suggested this variation to him.
asciilifeform: potentially could have 'self-guiding message in bottle' this way, in coupla months would even get somewhere near where intended...
asciilifeform: in gimbal. as in old icbm navigator. with the diff that its purpose is specifically to resist motion in the 'undesired' direction.
asciilifeform: incidentally re 'salmon goes fast enuff if yer patient!11' item: in asciilifeform's crackpot files, there is a gedankenexperiment, simplest possible sea propulsion, with 0 exposure of moving parts to salt : picture hermetically sealed 'bottle' with... gyroscope
asciilifeform: btw 2 small motors that cannot do 100%-dutycycle, can be entirely legit replacement for one of 2x mass (and 5x cost) that could
mircea_popescu: "why does this turret look like a barn door ?" "..."
asciilifeform: moar like '20s 'tank', where they welded sheets on vans
asciilifeform: ( the publicly exposed examples, iirc carried 2, 1 spare )
asciilifeform: btw the columbians, as far as is known to asciilifeform , use standard gensets for power plant, and electric outboard for motile.
mircea_popescu: and if it overheats, it can... take a break!
asciilifeform: 'wet exhaust' apparatus for the tailpipe.
mircea_popescu: (im seriously thinking jerrycan chassis)
mircea_popescu: in your case, the exchanger is the casing. nice pressed steel
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand cooling in ship is entirely different headache, how to keep salt from eating the exchanger
asciilifeform: would be interesting to at least compute what can be had from genset engine
mircea_popescu: MUCH colder. no ship ever has cooling problems for engine. cools through mounts.
mircea_popescu: water is much colder than your plastic casing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure i got one of these here, grass cutter. air cooled tho, and even in cool air not happy to run for weeks at time
asciilifeform: i'd describe this as 'open problem', rather than 'physical impossibility' tho. conceivably a material exists out of which can be made 50kg diesel.
asciilifeform: and then talking about a 500kg torpedo.
asciilifeform: 10x bigger tank.
asciilifeform: su tried for ~70yrs to make ~flyable~ (i.e. <100kg) diesel, failed.
mircea_popescu: as opposed to air, where there's only one solution : THIS big.
asciilifeform: i'm 100% sold that 'small' is possible, but not 100% convinced that with diesel.
mircea_popescu: the point here discussed was material strength and ocean stress interaction, and why there's two solutions to the equation : large AND small
mircea_popescu: if they were one single 10 ton rubber ducking, it'd have been pieced.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the small float is safe thing : the ship that lost 10mn bathroom rubber ducklings at sea resulted in rubber ducklings amfibious landings
asciilifeform: correct. ( tho in addition to 'orcs steal', we add 'poseidon steals' )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but if you do per kg this is actually more.
mircea_popescu: air not like this, air has a single dip, optimal plane size is one.
mircea_popescu: it's how the ocean goes, it has a double dip.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu; currently orcs steal 300 $ of hdd, rather than $10k of hdd + $20k of torpedo..
asciilifeform: but asciilifeform is not domain expert, will not presume to go into depth
asciilifeform: small engines , to date, suffer re efficiency. sorta why tanker is sop today, vs fleet of sloops
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if i lost your cargo would you cry more than if the orcs steal it like they apparently well might've ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc the "small engine" item is recurrent in logs. prolly will end up in the worklists before foundry too
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gotta factor in % of lost vessels + cargo, like the satellite people do, however
mircea_popescu: ie, one of these miniboats would be looking at 20k per trip. the gasoline is ~40
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm 100% sold that one ~could~ build. would 1st have to devise a 50kg diesel, i've never seen one, even aside from the matter of water etc
mircea_popescu: it WOULD be economical if one actually aimed to collect your "i am being fucked for $100 bux on 100g"
phf: asciilifeform: there's no "landed" in your scenario, continuous adjustment towards coordinates until picked up
mircea_popescu: this is not econoimical today, BUT because tanker takes 1 cent per ton to d othat distance
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this item would cost about 10k or so i guess, and it'd carry maybe 10kg or 10 liters of cargo, whichever smallest.
phf: asciilifeform: even modern amateur launches rely on beacons, but design considered is very similar to my glider: once released avoinics' only concern is to aim for a particular gps coordinate, no "sq km. radius" involved, depending on the range of banking maneuvers to within <5m
mircea_popescu: why should it be programmable ? what, no p.bvulpes where these people live ?
asciilifeform: at any rate i suspect that the problem is not wholly engineering problem, in the sense where, yes usg torpedo (for piddling 100km range) costs $mil, a ru torpedo -- $100k, but afaik nobody's built a $1 or even $10k thing-that-sails-8000km , in which to economically carry $1k of cargo
PeterL: how about thing is equipped to receive signal, you send out proper code and your location, it finds you
asciilifeform: back when su spy sats dropped film bottles, they still had ( reluctantly, as it is just as asinine as it sounds ) beacons, because otherwise ~0 chance of find. even from chopper.
mircea_popescu: nah, meter resolution. just take whores out for a swim.
mircea_popescu: "i'm confused now... was the pink one your dildos and the gray one my books ?" "shit man... " "ok let's drop them overboard see which way they go again"
asciilifeform: i suspect that you'd get coupla sq. km. radius to search.
mircea_popescu: "how do i know this is mine ?" "is it where yours should be ?"
mircea_popescu: nope. pre-arranged at tiome of loading
asciilifeform: what's to keep enemy from going to the beacon ?
asciilifeform: what would anchor on a 50kg torpedo look like ?
asciilifeform: which english thing
mircea_popescu: anyway. the chinese routinely just do the english thing
asciilifeform: i suspect that such a machine could be built.
PeterL: what if the panel is placed under the water level, then salt won't dry on it
phf: why qatar, mocky and beedog could just consult for the zetas