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asciilifeform: and quite similar to the 'what is my ip' thing, which i shot.
asciilifeform: davout: this one, i agree with; mandate fee input on command line.
davout: the way i see things, the "fee estimation" code must die ☟︎
asciilifeform: the even faint implication that i ought to so much as consider heathen nontrb wallets.
asciilifeform: and i still have not forgiven.
trinque: I don't think anyone brought his cock into the matter
asciilifeform: i get it, folx watched asciilifeform swing the axe, and it looked like great fun, nao everybody wants.
asciilifeform: suppose i gotta verify the signature on a malformed tx.
davout: and i really don't understand how keeping stuff around is sane when the functionality is an operator knob-turn away anyway
asciilifeform: it means that -- yes -- if i need to , i can open an ancient wallet.
davout: asciilifeform: well, maybe for forensic purpose you want to open up an accounts-enabled legacy wallet? i don't know, sounds equally likely as "want to check signature some derp made in weird ways during ancient times"
asciilifeform: or somehow this was implied in my patches ? (where, note, i cut out entire useless subsystems, and shrank memory drain eightfold ?)
asciilifeform: i said this ?
asciilifeform: did i say 'everything' ?
trinque: I don't think it's a sin for davout to go slashing and cauterizing in one direction, meanwhile reference client proceeds in another
trinque: I am aware of that, or what I said next would make no sense
thestringpuller: davout: that's why I think the UTXO probing is interesting. Easier to search ~2GB and ~100GB for the information you want.
trinque: I don't see that it'd be a terrible sin to have multiple branches descending from current trb
davout: thestringpuller: i see, currently it's really not practical
asciilifeform: i disagree that this would do any good.
thestringpuller: i'm using the blockchain itself to get the UTXO for forming new transaction when creating raw TX with bitcoin, this requires searching teh blockchain or using ben_vulpes tool
davout: thestringpuller: i'm not sure what you mean by "scraping the UTXO" ?
davout: but appreciate that i'm a fucking noob and i need to have something to get started, at least with the toolchain, not that it has to make official release until it's actually done you know
asciilifeform: then i have nothing else to disagree with
davout: asciilifeform: granted, is it ok with you if i give it a goddamn shot?
thestringpuller: davout: no. I'm just curious if there is a way to scrape UTXO's now, cause for my wallet tron I'm scraping blocks themselves. Def not O(n). (don't laugh)
davout: thestringpuller: you're asking me what trajectory i'm going to take at 200mph for that turn, i'm at the point where i'm still wondering how to turn the goddamn car on
asciilifeform: nao i'm curious
davout: asciilifeform: tbh i haven't measured it, but scanning 2gb of ram shouldn't really take that long
trinque: now I see what lacks definition here.
asciilifeform: i.e. half hour or so (and destined to linearly increase forever) per shot.
trinque: I can't find davout saying he refused to provide such a thing in his patch
asciilifeform: but not only will i not sign such a thing, i question the sanity of anyone who would.
trinque: this whole thead could've been "I will not sign the excision unless it brings also the replacement wallet" ... "k" ... fin
asciilifeform: snipping old wallet is a trivial patch, i suspect that any and each of trb folx could re-create it in half hour
davout: i'm really not sure where this "no equivalent replacement" comes from
asciilifeform: if , using your trb, i cannot transact ?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-27 18:53 davout: but also appreciate the fact that i'm a fine position to know what is painful, retarded, and needs to die in bitcoin when it comes to issuing transaction
davout: asciilifeform: i don't think you understand what i'm after, what i'm trying to get to is "sane and explicit knobs" instead of "here use this $magicfee"
davout: but also appreciate the fact that i'm a fine position to know what is painful, retarded, and needs to die in bitcoin when it comes to issuing transaction ☟︎
davout: asciilifeform: i never said this wasn't on the table
davout: i'm really not sold on this "has to be able to alpha centauri" requirement
asciilifeform: i'm with ben_vulpes . it's a motherfucking REFERENCE CLIENT
asciilifeform: (i would certainly not use a walletron based on openssl that DOES NOT PRE-DATE VALUABLEBTC forfuckssake)
asciilifeform: 'i'ma snip out this cirrhotic liver and some time later i'll maybe find a new one' ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i read through the english speaking press wrt trump's first week. qntra is by far the better source. << ty
asciilifeform: i shit thee not.
asciilifeform: they are , as i understand it, going for the classical kgb/gru split.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "The most notable public opposition came from Senate Armed Service Committee Chairman John McCain, who promised to block any such move. Senator McCain’s objections were primarily procedural and not substantive (i.e., he was upset he learned about the recommendation almost second-hand at the hearing, instead of by official channels)."
mircea_popescu: i read through the english speaking press wrt trump's first week. qntra is by far the better source.
mircea_popescu: when i die i'll be shown the list of everyone's favourite trilemas and spend the rest of the afterlife in shock.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i see you appreciate teh frank
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-27#1608078 << i take it that fr police are not equipped with heavy machinegun like in usa ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, at some point someone thought "hey, i know, we'll wear shit on our heads and go break people's doors". the obvious "then people will wear shit on their heads break your door" however got handwaved, because there's nothing specialer than a special snowflake.
davout: i suspect something's broken in my vdifftronics
davout: i've started by simply removing the signmessage and verifymessage functionality
davout: so with the eventual goal of cleanly amputating the wallet off of TRB I'm kind of wondering what the best approach is here,
snowbound33: I'll come back here at some point in the near future. I'm holding off for now, I want to set up a bouncer first if I'm going to be active in irc again
mircea_popescu: i c
snowbound33: no, sorry, I didn't write that article about the book. That was a guest post
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a whole pile of stuff. but no, i didn't think you wrote the book you reviewed.
snowbound33: I didn't write days of rage you know
snowbound33: yeah it me. I'm not aware of whatever discussion that is
snowbound33: I was invited here recently by someone online. I'm here under an anon account trying to figure out what it is, and if I will regret joining under my real freenode account
a111: Logged on 2017-01-26 23:15 asciilifeform: who refused -- i presume -- Had Problems.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-26#1607992 << i guess we'll be finding out in short order. converter easy to make. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i actually painted my 'model f' with conductive paint, 5 coats. it still radiates, from the cable.
asciilifeform: i will add, it is more interesting than it seems, because optical interconnect would make shielding, e.g., keyboards, ~meaningful~
asciilifeform: who refused -- i presume -- Had Problems. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Awe, I thought by "community health" they were going to unveil WikiBamaCare!
asciilifeform: what if i were Officially Sad and typed with my arse, and have no mouse. what then.
asciilifeform: did somebody cancel the clinton-era invalid 'accessibility' law while i slept in my cave..?
asciilifeform: trinque: i have not been there. i associate it mentally with galois corp., the outfit to which usg.nsa subcontracts a good chunk of critical dev work
trinque: there's a reason I moved home, and why Portland ~never~ became home.
trinque: I spent 5 years in total in Portland, in two tours.
asciilifeform: it ended?! i missed the memo...
asciilifeform: i should hope not.
trinque: that's not going away if I start speaking spanish in 30yrs
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aha. say 'i have a buried container of XYZ' and folx write down your coords.
trinque: I was referring to the state
asciilifeform: ftr it is monumentally bad idea to advertise one's 'i've got plenty' (we had an old thread re subj)
asciilifeform: trinque: folks who 'i've got plenty' end up raided by neighbours; spend time manning machine gun instead of plowing
trinque: asciilifeform: heh I've got plenty of that too!
asciilifeform: trinque: granted, i have not yet been to all parts of usa.
mircea_popescu: i do. because it's the same thing.
trinque: asciilifeform: I would say my view of former USSR is as cartoonish as your present view of certain parts of north america you apparently haven't spent time in
trinque: I know right? it'd wreck vital structures in one's self-representation
mircea_popescu: i guarantee you eg mod6 would stand with me / bring rifle from home. he's not alone i nthe us. you are.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i think you deeply misrepresent the rural folk.
trinque: I don't think most of the continent wants to shoost tejas
trinque: I really don't give a fuck if the outer husk becomes a nation
ben_vulpes: yeah kind of what i'm saying. the currency degradation is utterly irreversible, and that's the us' death sentence, no matter how great again the temporary may feel.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-30#1442347 << there was another, deeper thread re 'tolerance to poverty', the thing chinese have, and usa does not -- but i cannot seem to find ☝︎
ben_vulpes: i am very short any sort of comeback.
asciilifeform: ( i was speaking of 'ru comeback ' )
mircea_popescu: i just said!
asciilifeform: it ain't, apparently, 'easy'. i know of 0 historical examples of 'civilization comeback'
mircea_popescu: i think you deeply misrepresent just how easy sanity is.
mircea_popescu: and i mean it literally. either you're in the church or in the morgue.
mircea_popescu: what i said was, "make iraq 51st state, shoot everyone who refuses to attend sunday mass."