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jurov: "all men must gather on the camp of mars" and now all men in actual fact must so gather.
<< okay, but to return to the topic, how this advances rational thought?
thestringpuller: jurov: well, chtuhlhu would certainly be "perceived as worthy"
<< unless someone like Cartman befriends him.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: machines that can do this exist, they are called animals, and generally have their own problems that prompt people to invent less-general machines.
<< splendidly put.
mircea_popescu:
<undata> it is likely having grown up here that gives me deep skepticism that things are ever "better"
<< the canonical form of this is, "it is unlikely for the tadpole that ever lived in the same one puddle to imagine what different puddle means"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> what does it actually take, in terms of resources, to keep a mathematician going?
<< food.
mircea_popescu:
<undata> americans can't communicate with each other well enough to solve any problems.
<< this is true actually. seriously, "dating guides" ?
adlai: mircea_popescu: wovon
<< alongside silence, i'd say questions are also a valid response to ignorance
BingoBoingo: the incredible hulk
<< Actually a scientist
jurov:
<kakobrekla> what , computhas dont leak energy? thats new.
<< no i meant we want to devise machines that simulate non-leaking evironment
mircea_popescu:
<asciilifeform> (not the literal qwerty, but the 'platonic' qwerty seen as the overall human failing where folks agree on buggy shit and then cement it in place through 'sunk cost')
<< fwiw i disagree with this assesment. english is broken because it's a commercial pigdin, language without a country. the old languages of yurp are actually fine, and to this day more powerful than any synthetic syntax.
chetty:
<adlai> the public, from itself!//
<<< opt out
chetty:
<adlai> mircea_popescu: requirements like regulation must adapt to best protect the public's interests// whats 'the public'? Who would you protect? and from what?
mircea_popescu: adlai> we could define that the turd network doesn't count as output, since it's communication between computers and not output to the user
<<< reading this sort of shit makes my head bleed
adlai: +mircea_popescu | it can't be a quine, it has to blockchain
<< who says those are contradictory?
kakobrekla:
<jurov> well, it leaks energy. so we went on to devise machines that would leak something else
< what , computhas dont leak energy? thats new.
jurov:
<kakobrekla> you know - at least you are dealing with jus one broken stack, not layers upon layers.
<< you know, even newtonian mechanics themselves are just abstraction layer
mircea_popescu:
<adlai> there's probably a nice little niche scamming these services
<< and a good thing for that, too. if there weren't no parasites praying on parasites we'd be awash in 'em
mircea_popescu:
<kakobrekla> well if you are playing 'what stan wants' game you prolly end up with 100% mechanical implementation of bitcoind
<< some things stan wants stan gets, some other things he gets to want even harder!
chetty:
<cazalla> it only went pink once it hit the water, not like it was a stream of red aids coming out//check with wife, this also happens with freshly cleaned toilets sometimes
chetty:
<cazalla> so i take a piss and it's all red and i'm thinking i knew it, i knew it, it's fucking cancer// or ebola
thickasthieves:
<+mircea_popescu> it does look like pussy, jurov's phone... /// but it does resemble a uterus
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: therein lies the real chthonian ur-terror here.
<<< nah, we know it works. we just can't prove it to arbitrary standards yet.
ben_vulpes:
<mats_cd03> mircea_popescu: i retched
<< wuss
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: diversity of systems
<< idiocy
<< no dude. if bitcoin code all ran on the same platform that'd be pretty much the end.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: butbut... the spec's right here!
<<< not terribly fair. the mercedes is not made out of coffee like code is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: one of the things pretty much no one (save possibly mircea_popescu)
<< possibly eh ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: mod6: I prefer the term Stanix
<< as in "the dyslexic coder sold his soul to stanix" ?
ben_vulpes:
<Luke-Jr> mircea_popescu: well, that's part of why the comment states upfront you'll just get banned first time if you screw with the order - I just noticed kakobrekla's name so decided it'd be better to talk to him here first instead :p
<< dig the power of the wot
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: mod6: idea was, blockchain, as potentially the majority user of future hdd space on planet, deserves own (ab initio) scheme of mapping to block device.
<<< this is actually a solid point
mod6:
<+asciilifeform> like, your whole reich goes down
<< wouldn't it be grand to have a spec so people can use that to build their own compliant reference implementation?
mircea_popescu:
<nubbins`> running this in a vm, worth throwing extra ram at it?
<<< yes, up to 16gb markedly helps
BingoBoingo:
<asciilifeform> they get milk dishes, but will happily nibble on the toes of the maths students who visit
<< What, no warfarin in the milk?
BingoBoingo:
<mircea_popescu> asciilifeform and therefore the secret to being a whore is to fuck all ?
<< No, secret to being a whore is to be firm on prices.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform doesn't know who jolie is/was either, but no matter
<< Titless IRL Laura Croft
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: See, my reading of the story is that the Silicon Valley management style is even more broken than typical 'Murican MBA bullshit.
<<< really, it's just a lot more inconsistent. meaning the scary stories are TRUELY scary.
mircea_popescu: assbot: The Inside Story Of Matt Taibbi's Departure From First Look Media - The Intercept
<<< what they don't want to say is teh real scoop - "people heard about the qntra model and it killed anyone's will to life i nany competing project."
mircea_popescu: PeterL: why would they do that?
<<< because they're business school majors, and this means social studies, and this means they don't understand that words carry meaning.
mircea_popescu: cazalla: my god this hag of a wife, god must be punishing by introducing her to me before bitcoin
<< tell us your pain brothar. we're the relationship support cult, among other things.
mircea_popescu: bounce: did I get that about right?
<< "that bitcoin thing, aka some fiat nonsense trying to call itself bitcoin", rather than "this bitcoin thing" :)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: (rampant memory leakage is not 'works')
<< it's not rampant. more like a calender than a ruptured pipe. it... sweats memory :D
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: so he can go to forest and see if it's broken
<< lawl.
BingoBoingo: bounce> fairbarn-sykes in a collectible display case? what's it made off, star wars plastic?
<< Not in case, on nightstand. Made of whatever wartime shitiron England was using.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: with no weird 'now please delete blkindex' crud
<< this is never going to happen on the current db (bdb) because it's a pos, and if the computer fails unexpectedly it messes up the state.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: classic russian fatalism
<<< aaaaaaaahahaha, how do you know this ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: but now i don't see this thing as going anywhere
<< what, srlsy ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: me - i don't want jsonism in my book.
<< anything actually solidified in your head as to what you actually want ? sigs, really ?
BingoBoingo:
<bounce> rarely drink these days, but plenty water before bed means no headache, just lingering alcohol
<< What's the point of drinking if you un-drunk yourself so soon?
mircea_popescu: *: BingoBoingo wonders about serious matters such as will Cardano prototype factory make the eventual loper prototype
<< my hope is that in the 2020s. but i've been off before by an xmas or two.
BingoBoingo:
<mircea_popescu> hm, i like girls that wash ashtrays. i don't mean empty them in the trash, i mean actually wash the damned things.
<< Wait this thing I've been doing forever is unusual? I always wash the ashtrays at least weekly
mircea_popescu: undata: if only there were some way to organize the efforts of a large number of people around projects
<<< there is. you're watching it. just because leadership is not in your face doesn't necessarily mean leadership is absent and it's your time to shine. it may also mean leadership is extremely good at what it does.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: undata: if there's an existing stripped down client the deturdification process is a waste of time
<<< what are you, new ?