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asciilifeform: phf: there was, and, observe, it went away.
a111: Logged on 2015-08-08 03:58 asciilifeform: and here is where we meet up with vlsi boojum: you can't do vlsi economically if there is room for six computers total.
phf: asciilifeform: i'm mostly making a humorous point. there was after all a time when you could connect your commodore to your cathode ray tube
BingoBoingo: Let's see what the tape on yours says
BingoBoingo: Package was opened and sealed with tape reading "Terminal de Cargas Uruguay"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: funnily enuff, i have word that the one you sent, also came in, will be picking it up shortly
a111: Logged on 2018-05-08 16:58 asciilifeform: i suspect that subtracting the rolex,vertu,patek,etc. pseudo-craftsman industrial garbage, leaves the null set tho.
asciilifeform: the availability of thinking-man tech that can't be repackaged and sold to the lolcats, is ~0 .
asciilifeform: phf: we did have the 'mass marketism' thread, aha
phf: there's probably an upper bound of availability of thinking man's technology, kind of like strugatsky's "za milliard let do konca sveta". once you start hitting those limits suddenly "my baby is in hospitals these days" etc. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( and the ones that ~do~ come with controller, are marketed to the idjit 'hackaday' crowd, and so they get this ersatz thing that half-worx )
asciilifeform: it's very spiffy tech but has fallen victim to crappleization.
asciilifeform: phf: as i reckon, they're designed from the start to be integrated into some starvation-cheap konsoomer crapola . ergo they omit the controller.
phf: haha, yes, i remember, you have to feed that data to that 3" eink screen
asciilifeform: phf: iirc damned things are even temperature-sensitive
asciilifeform: ( who the fuck wants to contend with TWO linux boxen , with TWO batteries, etc )
asciilifeform: d00d had fpga & buncha FETs for taking the outputs to the magic voltage, buck converter for generating same, painstakenly hand-placed ribbon connectors, etc
phf: closests i've gotten to eink display is a jailbroken kindle with a hacky local client of some sort (there's vnc and there's also a kindle native terminal). obviously unfit for real work
asciilifeform: phf: i read'em, intensely hand-sewn thing that works when phase of moon is just-so..
phf: asciilifeform: i'm somewhat familiar with the field, there's periodic hackaday posts about attempts to reverse engineer the whachamacallem refresh matrices or whatever specialized name they have
phf: yeah, i turned it into an "analogue" clock and left it at that
asciilifeform: and it's a fairly gnarly analogue device, with peculiar voltages and very particular ( per panel ) timings.
asciilifeform: phf: you can get up to 10" panels, for ~pennies, the issue is the controller, nobody makes 1 that works with the surplus 'kindle' etc panels.
asciilifeform: phf: funnily enuff i have that screen, experimented with use as indicator. it's dog slow.
phf: adafruit sells a 3" eink screen which connects over gpio, i'm not grokking why nobody's selling anything bigger. the whole field is a mystery
asciilifeform: ( can very much feel the heat, even, from it )
asciilifeform: lcd, esp. if you want it to be visible in the day, draws quite heavy currents.
asciilifeform: aside from sunlight, the other win from 'eink', mod6 , is that it draws 0 current when not drawing. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mod6: as 'suitcase' ? in principle yes. iirc we even had thread.
asciilifeform: if you want lcd, can get it in any size, up to , idk, metres
mod6: im not computing outdoors much tho
asciilifeform: and tiny, too.
mod6: what about one of these? https://www.mouser.com/new/adafruit/adafruit-raspberry-pi-7inch-display/
asciilifeform: where you edit 1 line at a time, and full screen is rarely drawn
asciilifeform: but i currently suspect that this is 1 of those 'only asciilifeform wants' items, and hence won't exist any time soon. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'd very willingly trade my coloured emacs for 1bit b&w thing, at least on sunny day.
asciilifeform: mod6: the chinese make 3color thing, but it has poorer contrast than the classical one
mod6: are there any colors on ink-screen? ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( hell, i'd live with 'vi' myself if that were the only cost.. )
asciilifeform: and i expect the 'vi' users even moar so.
Mocky: imo current eink refresh rate wants applications that have slightly different display semantics than what we have today which is based on 'full screen refresh has no cost' ☟︎
asciilifeform: imho 'ideal' epaper gadget would simply have serial port and emulate vt100, and then could fit to anyffing at all.
asciilifeform: Mocky: the linked part was claimed to fit 'rpi header' (i.e. the 40pin thing on various arm boards, incl. our rk3328) with 0 solder or fancy interfacing. but apparently nodice.
asciilifeform: the panels also have a common cathode thing for clear-all-accumulated-rubbish
Mocky: yes but two types of redraw, one hard blanks out rect and then draws (amounts to 2 redraws), the other attempts update
asciilifeform: i've found that i personally think palpably smoother when on balcony, in sunlight. but atm can only do this with printouts.. ☟︎
asciilifeform: you still need ~full draw for scrolling/paging tho
asciilifeform: Mocky: afaik all of the decent chipsets support 'partial draw'
asciilifeform: a ~1s redraw would moar than suffice for emacs.
asciilifeform: 'eink' is moar or less exactly The Right Thing for hypothetical 'thinking man's lappy'.
asciilifeform: ( no known lcd worx worth half a shit in sunlight, unless one pumps sumthing like 50 watt into the backlight, and even then )
asciilifeform: 'tis a shame tho, asciilifeform would much like a rk3328 lappy that worx for whole day in open sunlight..
asciilifeform: so possibly for the better...
asciilifeform: i was able to find a film clip on www of somebody who actually got hold of the thing, and it didnt redraw in ANYTHING like 1sec
mod6: awe that sucks
asciilifeform: read whole thing
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-10-01 17:55 TomServo: asciilifeform: I tried getting one of the screens you mentioned here: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-20#1852509
a111: Logged on 2018-09-20 14:21 asciilifeform: in other misc noose, chinese nao sell a 10inch spi-interfaced eink display thing with <1s refresh, fits on e.g. our rk3328-roc-cc board without solderings. theoretically a lappy can be hand-sewn .
mod6: yeah, that's pretty relateable for me
asciilifeform: ( luckily -- perhaps -- there's plenty to do on surface )
asciilifeform: but to summarize subthread -- asciilifeform gets 1 day / wk, and that's on a ~good~ wk, to run the deep drills. the rest of the time, stuck on surface.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in other lulz, "<nicoleci> omg asciilifeform <nicoleci> i couldnt load the page fast enough to fix it before he said anything <nicoleci> its already fixed but im not voiced"
asciilifeform: and yes [insert oblig thread!111] if i knew how to stop while keeping the lights on, i'd've stopped in 2013.
asciilifeform: at least not in the morbid form asciilifeform gets.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun expect you'd have the 'reboot' problem, no.
mircea_popescu: ah. now that, can be very iffy, ima yell at people interrupting.
asciilifeform: proggies, articles, theorems.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure there's numerous threads going ~always on in the background, dun need loading, loaded once. in like, 1996.
mircea_popescu: my nonsense comes to me whenever it feels like -- in the shower, it ruined fucking once or twice also, often in the morn waking me up (the idea bladder is way the fuck worsew than the urine bladder -- which latter never ever wakes me up)...
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=36 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 9/27/2018
asciilifeform: i.e. saturday, 'loading', sunday -- doing, then 5d of microshit, then new saturday, 'load' again...
asciilifeform: the repeated 'loading' costs quite a bit of time.
asciilifeform: i cannot speak for e.g. trinque , phf, mod6 , but would not be surprised if same is the case there.
asciilifeform: the sad troof is that ~all of asciilifeform's 'deep' worx (i.e. the ones that require loading a whole proggy / algo 'into head' ) happen on vacations & weekends (when the latter not filled with saecular crapola) rather than nights
asciilifeform: but i dun expect to have this 'problem' any time soon
asciilifeform: i do wonder sometimes how i'd organize day if i actually had whole day to tmsr
mod6: Yeah, I try to re-read stuff too -- actually links within logs actually help to force ya to do it.
mircea_popescu: i re-read logs also. i dun see the problem, what, log should be toilet paper, use once ?
asciilifeform: it is imperfect approach, and unpleasantly reminiscent of how leporidae eat their grass. but i havent found substantially better algo.
mod6: Might not be that far off, either.
mod6: I feel like, this will improve for me -- all of it. As someday I'll break out of these mines.
asciilifeform: pretty often when going to sleep i read coupla wks of log, again & again...
mod6: mircea_popescu: I actually do read the logs, but -- again, I wish I had more time to really grok the logs. Instead of just snarf them and move on to the next thing.
mircea_popescu: maybe it's all the buttsex, opens up his chakras.
mod6: I actually assume it's worse for alf. I have no idea how alf can keep up in irc, and all the other things. Guy has 20,000 hands.
mircea_popescu: mod6 you know it occurs to me you miss a lot of my lines!!
mod6: oh I must have missed that line from before.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 00:05 mircea_popescu: i kinda have in the back of my mind this impression that poor shane's ended up stuck with a large number of loose ends to juggle.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:59 mod6: And before the republic, I was very much a one-thing-at-a-time type of engineer. Seems like over the last year or maybe 18 months, I feel like I'm context switching so much, that I find it hard to get deep into the thinking that I need to. For instance, it bothers me that I still haven't found time to work through FFA.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856550 << ah, this may be a problem, i guess. i suppose is what i meant by http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855743 ☝︎☝︎
mod6: I kinda miss that.
mod6: Yeah, I think so.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:58 mod6: One other thing that I should note here, perhaps, is that I feel like I really get into the work deep into thought; when doing the trb related work.
asciilifeform: ( lotsa folx in usa, esp. on the sadder telcos, have foreign call switched off entirely )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i get china regularly. but they go via pwned usa boxen.
BingoBoingo: I'm leaning towards suspecting the robocall scammers hacked a Uruguayo office and under the impression Uruguay is a "rich" company have decided to pilfer
BingoBoingo: ANd they don't do the one ring disappear bulshit
BingoBoingo: Aite, who the fuck tried to call me from Senegal
mircea_popescu: i dunno if anyone burns in hell for fucking girls too young, or too roughly, or drinking too much or burping in church. but i see it altogether possible that you show up before st peter and he's like "shit shane, you STILL suck at sales ?! off to the ovens with you, for shame!"
mircea_popescu: life's given to selfperfect, after all.