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mircea_popescu: the 2bn they burned in 2017 comes out of a ~51bn piggy.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; terminal (which hasn't been "updated" to "newest in ux and gui" crap, thankfully) lets us know they have 170,593,000 shares outstanding, not counting warrants and options.
mircea_popescu: "there's a whole list of what people said about the thing you're wanting to see ?" jesus.
mircea_popescu: "oh, no, mp, nevermind that, would you like any of these 5 instantaneous made up quote streams ?!?!" "no." "how about the randomized news feed" "fuck off".
mircea_popescu: just the insane way that all is organized, 100% DESIGNED to turn the eye towards the scam and away from the actuarial backing. where the fruck is the fucking list of how much stock they sold ?
mircea_popescu: in the end, maddoff fucking won.
mircea_popescu: noooo-ooobody knows what this latest groupon burned.
mircea_popescu: https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/news-headlines << check it out, nasdaq has a whole "menu" of optiopns, except no fucking way to establish market capitalization ; the only page that'd maybe do it, the (legally mandated, btw) anuyal report, http://www.companyspotlight.com/partner?cp_code=NAS1&ticker=TSLA ... times out. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc tesla sux not because lacks 300hp ( iirc they had one with massive motor ) but because costs like 15 of mp's bmw
mircea_popescu: and yet tesla got to pretend it's worth 300 a share ; and 2bn a year spending money out of the "shareholder"'s piggy. where's the mamie with 2bn to spend, i wish to see this.
mircea_popescu: can go for all of ten minutes.
mircea_popescu: let's take the 2012 tesla s lulz : 581 kW theoretical powerplant ; 100 kWh theoretical battery pack. it's like a bmw with a two ounce tank!!!
mircea_popescu: because the "oh, we don't DO hp anymore" is definitely coming out.
mircea_popescu: ask one of the fucktards this, sometime. "hey, mp's bmw has 270 hp under the hood. what's your tesla got ?"
mircea_popescu: you see ? it is actually very sensible, in the "common sense" sense of sensibility.
asciilifeform: esp since the 'mamies' are 'red-blooded amurrricans' and the 'sciences' people, largely yellow devils
mircea_popescu: as long as "engineering" and computer pseudoscience and tesla and deeply dysfunctional entirely-not-a-chance-in-hell-of-ever-working-why-don't-you-talk-of-hp-anymore "electric" cars get money... on what grounds can you deny it to irigaray and her brood ?
asciilifeform: and this is eternal 'grievance'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but of course. and ( at least at my local shithole ) that forest fire has only just begun -- the 'sciences' still get sumthing like 20x moar payola than the mamies
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform because the "science" just as much on the dole, and consequently the main reason the "grievances field" (i kinda like the term tbh) even exists. << I didn't realise until today that I am one of the leading indepenent scholars in greviances studies
mircea_popescu: the logic is sound, if you think it through : "we fat sexually worthless females, in a word we the mamies, have the following grievance : back when the clever boys discovered new lands and made train engines, you priviledged them for this reason. now -- they do not. why can't we also have the payola they get ?" "uhm..." "and if you don't like this simple formulation, we can add 10mn words of rephrasings ?" "fuck"
asciilifeform: i aint particularly surprised, really, errything reversemidas touches turns to shit, not merely some
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because the "science" just as much on the dole, and consequently the main reason the "grievances field" (i kinda like the term tbh) even exists.
asciilifeform: i.e. unreplicable crapola where one'd have to catch the authors and connect'em to 220v to get the orig data, supposing it existed ☟︎
asciilifeform: incidentally, the 'transgender transracial studies' etc people are the easy marks for laughter, but i see ~0 diff b/w them and what's been coming out of the 'sciences' rags for past 20y
BingoBoingo: Mind that as recently as 2010 one of the centers there had just been inaugurated and the older one was opening satellite facilities at Chinese universities
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had a piece re termites.
asciilifeform: ( no prizes for guessing , subscriptions to what. )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i found out recently that uni lib's budget is nao something like 70-80% for 'electronic subscriptions'. meanwhile, 3 of 8 floors emptied of boox, and carrying on
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They closed shops plural. Apparently the repurposed residential buildings are there, but locked without grad students funded to guard the door.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they're at the 'only can be sold for meat' level, i suspect
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes ; the whole "field" has been taking water for decade+.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yup. i would expect 2/3 to 4/5ths of all females in the age range to "more education" / "back to school" because very much http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#selection-111.0-111.31 and literally nobody can be arsed to even asked them to suck cock. forget paying for it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: waiwat?! they actually closed shop ?!
mircea_popescu: exactly how the other socialism played out -- by the time 1980 rolled around, there were so many "responsibles" to the worker, there was barely enough bread to go around.
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile a couple journals, a couple "centers of study", and a book series has been reduced to... a book series
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is entirely consistent with my observed picture ( the same lost souls auto-enter 'grad school' because otherwise... 'starbucks' + loans called in )
BingoBoingo: 14 down to 7 in a decade
mircea_popescu: well of course, this is the problem with government-"solved" problems : the solving produces the problem, and the only available response is to dilute the "solution". homeopathy for the masses!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not as much getting as they used to get. Today the SIU department of Philosophy has 7 faculty members. Since I was there were five promotions to emeritus (some rather young) and at least three other departures. In the intervening decade they have ONE new face on their faculty web page.
mircea_popescu: the notion that the 1920s produced a whole lotta churchgoers is exactly of the same cloth as the notion that the 2000s produced a whole lotta academics, "discourse", "awareness" and what have you.
mircea_popescu: same exact thing here -- great depression, church, bowl of soup.
mircea_popescu: what they "say"... well they ain't sayin' anything. in the great depression lotta folk "listened" in church because only way they'd get the bowl of soup.
mircea_popescu: so the notion that somehow it could be undone by meaning... item exists economically. all the women "liberated" from depending on a male are still just as dependent. much like all the slaves "liberated" from slave owner are just as much slaves.
trinque: isn't as though they get real food out of it either, just velveeta and fungal breadlike. what's to care about?
asciilifeform: phood, communal flats ( they can't build'em fast enuff.. ), 'degrees', jerbs, et
mircea_popescu: point of fact remains -- most zeks not useful in any sense. all zeks would still like to eat. this is the conduit through which they get their foodstamps.
asciilifeform: and they're gettin'
mircea_popescu: the whole thing is basically social payments extension. there's a lot of idle schmuycks who expect to get government freebies under the title of "doing" this crap.
BingoBoingo: My alma maters got that shit going on too
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That thought influenced the title word choice. Can't kill a corpse, but you can still hit it for damage.
asciilifeform: these folx live in hermetically sealed parallel universe, that i suspect can only be pierced with bullet and oven
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect that it won't 'kill credibility' , it is impossible to kill what's been dead since orig sokal (at the very least!) -- but still lulzy
mod6: BingoBoingo: If you really want to take this on, I won't object. I had thought that we would kinda go over it together... but if you wanna work through it and see how it goes, that's fine. ben_vulpes told me that he would review the report before we publish it again this month.
BingoBoingo: Which is why unlike so many other finds it got the early qntra mega block quote treatment while so many other things get the archive.is take it or leave it
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Which is why it is entered into the record. All of the secondary reporting made finding their report ON THEIR OWN PROJECT a serious bitch.
mircea_popescu: pantsuit is not substantially different from any other inconsequential group of niggers the white man subdued to date.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they have a point, only sane way to look at the orcs is as what they are -- a primitive culture.
mod6: Yes, mircea_popescu, any help from hanbot, yourself, asciilifeform would be awesome. I just have too many things atm.
mod6: All I'm saying folks is that I'm doing the best that I can with what I've got to work with.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> I'm not going to be done with this report a few days ~at a minimum~. << I am here so you can unload this on me
mod6: BingoBoingo just got me his numbers, so I can start calculations on that stuff now. And I think I'm about to lock in a price point for October. Which we need not only to keep the lights on, but also so we can start invoicing folks so I don't take another beating like I did in July.
mircea_popescu: hanbot lend the fellows a hand ? ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform certainly better than current "state of the art"!
mod6: Hopefully it won't be that bad this time, but I'm having to learn all of this stuff as I go.
mod6: Last month took 17 days.
mod6: I'm not going to be done with this report a few days ~at a minimum~.
asciilifeform: mod6: i dun think it will be a terrible thing if it has to wait a day, so long as we do it shortly
mod6: Once I have those things done, I can move on to these other things. Unless mircea_popescu and asciilifeform find it prudent that I drop what I'm doing there and write whatever this thing is.
mod6: I gotta get the report done for pizarro. I've also gotta lock in a price and get the bills paid.
asciilifeform: mod6: i've been eating, breathing, sweating, microshit, for past 14hrs. and this is 2nd week...
mod6: I mean, my ticker can't keep up with this stuff. Gonna give me a heart-attack.
mod6: I could probably start there. I am getting winded here guys.
asciilifeform: mod6: is above enuff to start from, or need help to expand
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857737 << nicoleci - So what was going on there was this: I had compiled a new trb with a new patch that I was testing, and I was remarking about that it's build was finished. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what do you think of this angle
asciilifeform: mod6: example: 'dear herr editor at volkischer beobachter: you have been misinformed by your sources re the subject of bitcoin. the client maintained by gavin et al, known as 'core', currently offered at version x.x, and infamous for lethally compromising bugs, most recently [qntra link] , is not the definitive client but a work of malicious impostors ; the actual bitcoin client can be found at [tbf] , consists of x LOC (and decreasi
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 16:26 asciilifeform: if mod6 is overloaded, i can give it a shot myself later this wk, but imho this is suboptimal, asciilifeform does not represent tbf
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857655 << Aha, totally am. Any help would be great. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 16:24 asciilifeform: possibly idea for hanbot, who was considering taking up tbf , and is in fact experienced hand in subj
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857654 << Yeah, this would help for sure. ☝︎
mod6: mircea_popescu: I think it was this one, as it were: http://deedbot.org/deed-363752-1.txt
mod6: But I'd be glad to have some help, if anyone is willing to help ole mod6.
mod6: And for the time being, I've got Pizarro things that need doing.
mod6: I'm not at all sure, in every sense of the word, of what to write about the subject. All I know was "bug found in core version 0.16.X"
mircea_popescu: and even that aside -- gotta write them, or otherwise vehehery tenuously can say "r foundation". because this is the sorta thing a foundation does, and this one's chartered to do -- outreach.
mircea_popescu: girls don't think what you think they think, not least of all because ~the only fucking reason~ you lie to yourself about thinking that's what girls think is so as to save your lazy ass the effort of ever talking to one.
asciilifeform: i dun have an oracle re 'everyone', only the mouthpiece fishwraps, and even these i'll admit i read irregularly
mircea_popescu: "everyone thinks gavin is the expert", says alf, in 2018. but when in 2015 mp said "fuck gavin", gavin got fucked. everyone thinks ?
mircea_popescu: why not use the methods that ARE PROVEN TO WORK jaysus!
asciilifeform: i dun remember any such thing, never thought to do it with bernstein et al
mircea_popescu: check it out, and it prevented the fork, and you... frogot about it ? never used it again ?
mod6: i'll find it, just a minute. then I gotta reivew the rest of the log, and move on to pizarro things.
mod6: I gotta dig it up. It was from the "if you go on a fork..." thing iirc.[
mod6: Oh, that's what I think we did last time asciilifeform. deedbot.
asciilifeform: that way the fishwrap morons can never 'you never asked!11'
mircea_popescu: moreover, if these letters were already on www, the "wtf is this foundation doing" q would not have been needed last week.
mircea_popescu: absolutely. then we can actuallky DISCUSS them, rather than typically non-tmsr-esque "oh, i did something sometime i don't remember what i don't remember when and i didn't follow what happened".
asciilifeform: was about to say, aha
asciilifeform: ml too