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mircea_popescu: i also recall a thread re how to do this with maybe mimi or else deedbot, which i don't think is that one
mircea_popescu: "i am confused" "evidently"
davout: yeah, i remember talking about it here
davout: found out that i in fact hallucinated the existence of this index, which may or may not have been added later on to prb, but was absent from trb
davout: back at square one, did some reading to get started on implementing what i had in mind (full scan of the UTXO upon request for UTXOs relevant to addresses)
a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 22:41 mod6: i haven't heard on davout's progress recently.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure you did, especially given that there totally even are other things to do irl. like... what ?
mircea_popescu: "oh i had some other things to do."
mircea_popescu: i suppose the fellow who was looking to be useful could write a phuctor - confirmed - by - wikileaks piece for qntra.
mircea_popescu: oh i thought you already had THAT
asciilifeform: i gotta get one
asciilifeform: ffs i have 2 hands mircea_popescu .
davout: i thought i'd find an in-memory UTXO index, which i didn't. appears to me like trb will have to keep some sort of "watched addresses list" after all, or that such an index will have to be bolted in somehow
davout: so i did some reading re the wallet separation thing and ended up realizing i had an incorrect idea about trb's internals
BingoBoingo: https://i.redditmedia.com/BLwMskbzU-N-i4ohArWoi2tOnGtR-L0aiw6s56Vm9yU.jpg?w=739&s=d9239b28830107c4b9420c87db344b0b
mod6: "I was told core has all the best dev and you guys let us down like this..." << lmao
asciilifeform: i don't know precisely why not. but it is in asciilifeform's lived experience, fwiw, a 'man bites the dog'
asciilifeform: i dun expect to live to so much as see from a distance, a female so much as touching a cnc machine
mircea_popescu: and there's nothing wrong with women fucking, nor with the actress, cnc miller's or floor washer's art. heck, god knows i've had my private female property engage in all of those. but it sure as fuck ain't academic, forgetaboutit.
mircea_popescu: in fact -- if ANY professor is better through video than writing, and i don't mean better overall - if he is better in any one definite way, then THEREFORE that person is not a professor but a hunting dog.
mircea_popescu: no please, video feed of some dork reading for me, i'm fucking george over here.
mircea_popescu: because yes, i'm sure she learned by watching another interchangeable item just like her.
mircea_popescu: i don't give a shit. there's a woman on her knees polishing my floor as we speak. you propose her trade is academic also ?
asciilifeform: aactually i can think of 1 other subj
mircea_popescu: i guess.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform VIDEO lectures / podcasts are entirely fucking useless for any academic purpose, as i'm sure you know.
trinque: I... refuse to answer that.
jurov: i have tried mit ocw. big disappointment, whatever subject I tried, material was utterly incomplete and patchy
mircea_popescu: more than one, i daresay
Framedragger: sure. well, tor had been rather useful to me before, i took from it more than it's taken from me, so at least there's that. :)
Framedragger: reminds me, i think i'm still running one tor exit lol. mebbe time to redirect resources
trinque: we would - I'm sure - be shocked to find that the top secret exploit is the damned rebranded firefox
asciilifeform: to this very day i haven't anything better than jurov's lxr thing (and the map in my head.)
trinque: I've been slogging through the thing reading the paths for acquiring and validating blocks, and my god, must have map.
a111: Logged on 2015-07-04 03:18 asciilifeform: so far i'm utterly failing to even get 'codeviz' to build.
trinque: also, speaking of wot.deedbot.org (and specifically the generated SVGs) and http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-04#1186410 (which I have patches in hand to fix the build) I may have something of a usable trb map in the near future. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: futu-i-in-gura!
Framedragger: i wonder how well a typical hashtable with 2**64 elements work in practice, tho. where would store its elements?
mircea_popescu: 64 SEEKS. thousands of asm lines. all i do is a mult. one.
Framedragger: well, at least your user input is segregated into two 'containers': 1. GET requests for static files; and 2. user comments - processed by some specific script, separate from the rest. but yeah, this isn't exactly amazing innovation, i agree.
Framedragger: i mean, i have in mind an 'actually properly configured static site'. maybe it's a nonexistent spherical cow in vacuum, sure.
trinque: Framedragger: though actually I don't buy it
Framedragger: trinque: point taken. :) (i'll only repeat one thing here: in a 'proper static site' setup, one is *not* exposing vulns of a scripting language to the web. only those of the webserver.)
trinque: if you're sitting there saying "huh, now my writes take a year because I have to update sidebar comments on every page I ever wrote"
Framedragger: btw, if you store 2**64 nodes in a (balanced) binary tree, wouldn't the "number of seeks" be ~64? i suppose that doesn't look too pretty, but considering that an ssd's seek time is ~0.1ms... not that these numbers are rigorous or anything.
mircea_popescu: neways ; i shall be back to town. anyone wanting to argue the above -- in a few hours.
Framedragger: right, basically i'm putting a lot of trust into fs, fundamentally. hence disagreement - fair enough. (to summarise.)
mircea_popescu: and i'll compute 2 * maxint/2 faster than you'll seek maxint/2
Framedragger: no need to compress, what i meant by compression is that an index is sorta-doing that. storing flat files on fs is basically 'flattening' the process over space and time.
Framedragger: i can't see how i can be convinced that launching script-specific php processes is ~same as a webserver allocating a standardised additional unit of its resources (memory / thread etc.)
Framedragger: anyway, i see your point.
mircea_popescu: otherwise what you're proposing is "but hey, i'd still have root, and ssh or no ssh... it's still the same"
mircea_popescu: try it i guess ?
Framedragger: right, well-managed permissions ensure that any 'break-in' would only result in one being able to *read* some files. but i think your abstraction breaks quickly: i'm sure your php user is able to write files (file upload), even if to a single dir, and to write to db. so it's still not the same.
mircea_popescu: pile-of-.html-files exposes your directory structure to the world ; badly set permissions have the same effect as i dunno, mysql with an open hole.
Framedragger: (though i'm sure mp-wp is on the whole ~decent in terms of holes/security.)
Framedragger: as regards language choice, yeah, i see your point, "just use the right tool". thing is, with an *actual* static site, you would not expose the language to the web, at all. the only attack surface would be that of the webserver. cf. a wordpress site which as folks say is a "web shell with blog functionality on the side" :)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: that's not the only difference. a 'php' site launches and runs additional process(es) to serve user requests. now i guess you could say that "it's just a detail", on the grand picture it's the same (nginx requires additional resources to serve static files), but that would be stretching it.
mircea_popescu: that you go fd.com/article/comments/5/reply/ or somesuch and i go mp.com/article/ is not so much a difference as it appears.
mircea_popescu: what is this clean great language that doesn't gross one out, i must have missed some classes / log days.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i see what you mean, but you can't really call it 'static' by any metric. in point of fact i'm surprised you're not grossed out over the fact that the whole thing is a large stinking pile of dynamic php. i guess the counterargument is that it *gets the job done*, very well, over many years. :) so there's that. but i'd like to ditch the 'wp' from 'mp-wp' one day. but maybe baby steps.
mircea_popescu: "but mistress, i'm gay" "SILENCE WHEN YOU SPEAK TO ME WORM!!1!"
shinohai: I had a no-shit "Vegan Dominatrix" follow me the other day. Whole new subculture I never heard about.
shinohai: If it wasn't for mircea_popescu and you constantly reminding me, I probably would never have started Qntra.
shinohai: Not yet .... I stood up a copy on lan and played with it some but you know me and blogging.
shinohai: I still have a copy in archives, but haven't tinkered with it much. jhvh1 and trb keep me pretty busy.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-05 04:04 lobbes: I cannot think of any other way either without even a tiny bit of JS
mircea_popescu: lobbes not a terrible idea, only problem is it cuts to irc line. some comments are long. (otherwise i'd have moved myself)
Framedragger: what i _would_ like is to be able to have these kinds of comments in an otherwise static site (the comment box would be the dynamic component, so to speak - an autonomous backend module/script/whatever). not a part of a large ugly php blob.
Framedragger: yes, that's what i (finally) understood - i had assumed wrongly before!
ben_vulpes: i have nfi what is in it, but spied the cover on the way out
Framedragger: i should keep that in mind lest i become unnecessarily overexcited here.
ben_vulpes: fwiw i thought long and hard about this and ultimately migrated to mp-wp.
lobbes: either that or I'll just leave it without the ability to properly quote an arbitrary selection.
lobbes: I cannot think of any other way either without even a tiny bit of JS ☟︎
lobbes: hm, yeah actually, I may end up going down that route
Framedragger: so actually, if you were willing to use that text selection JS snippet, i guess it'd be possible, sorta. commenter would paste autogenerated link and write on irc `http://trilema.com/2017/minigame-smg-february-2017-statement/#selection-1017.0-1017.97 << kewl`; but then how about overall comment length (have a way of indicating a multi-irc-line comment), etc...
Framedragger: i guess they could include blog post number at least, but then not full proper quotation as you say. arbitrary selection within a DOM element only possible with some JS (trilema and archive.is at least have that JS piece tucked nicely in one place, not a total horror)
Framedragger: (i'd like a static site + comments-without-captcha-or-JS setup, too, yeah)
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-05#1622326 << just checked and realised that your trilema comments don't seem to have any JS, so it seems like i was wrong. (i now realise i had a (rather arbitrary) additional constraint with the original comment long ago, "make it work with a static site", but that's another matter/project altogether.) ☝︎
lobbes: right? then, if I was sure that the data coming in is not shit, I could perhaps automate the generating of the blawg pages, adding in comments from said db at whatever intervals
lobbes: but I have not really thought it out much
lobbes: I almost want to try something like a !Qcomment command via lobbesbot that'd store comment in a sqlite db. I'm thinking I may be able to 'default deny' input that way, somehow.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-05#1622287 << he designed a nice, light-weight layout, what can I say :D ☝︎
Reuel: I only seem to have 2 enumerations
Reuel: well to be honest I thought I still had claim keys
Reuel: mircea_popescu, I have 2 items I want to return on eulora, are you on
Reuel: I'll check it out
Reuel: BingoBoingo if something crosses my path I will write it up. Government IT/big IT fails of interest?
mircea_popescu: lobbes i mean
Reuel: like I said, I dont like to be a net taker but I don't have much time atm
Reuel: I want to work, and I will certainly give time
danielpbarron: what is this, "i want to work but only if it doesn't take any time"
Reuel: Well there is a lot of failing going on in Dutch IT, I must say
Reuel: I guess that can probably be automated
Reuel: ok let me put it more bluntly, I didn't enjoy dragging tables across green hills
mircea_popescu: i guess so, but there seems no danger of such a wonder, so.
danielpbarron: Reuel, i'm not inviting you to come have fun (although you will probably enjoy it) but you indicated you want to do work in the republic but don't know how. i have told you how
Reuel: well I get the hard disk part, but not how it relates to bitcoin
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the thing is that by now i wouldn't trust the results anyway. dude clearly has nfi what he'd be doing.