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mod6: this would leave, for instance, a 'trb' output press directory along side of the above stated dirs. of which, all that would be contained in there is a bitcoin directory, and the underlying 'src' directory.
mod6: so that'll be the next thing to take a look at.
mod6: problem will be with pressing and a vpatch. press wants to put everything underneath of the given press directory. not place contents adjacent to a press directory.
mod6: interestingly, i just tried moving 'bin', 'deps', and 'build' and all of their makefiles + a few small tweaks up ../../.. and was able to build.
mod6: this change is pretty trivial. probably will update V99994 before it comes out (was about to release this weekend). will need to add at least an automated test too. not a big deal.
mod6: there would be nothing to denote any said changes in a pressed directory.
mod6: but maybe this is just that, a bad-form-case. do not do this.
mod6: yeah, im maybe considering the bad-form-case where someone modifies the source of a pressed directory, forgets about his changes, comes back 12 years later, then re-presses over said changes, now lost. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: would give "monastery" a whole new meaning.
mircea_popescu: imagine if pregnancy worked this way. get girl pregnant, fuck her again a month later get her pregnant again, except timer reset.
mircea_popescu: also not a bad way to go about it.
mod6: just automagically blow it away and create a new one?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> if you move /deps/ that'll work fine. << this part is a bit more tricky. but might be possible.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> i suppose alternatively could just say DO NOT PRESS TWICE! DELETE DIR BETWEEN PRESSES. << agree. there obviously needs to be a check in there - if the press directory already exists, warn the user and stop. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: makefile bs. alright, well, i guess we'll need a test for file exists or some such hair.
a111: Logged on 2015-07-19 21:31 ben_vulpes: mod6: re gitkeeps do we even know why those empty dirs are necessary for a succesful compile?
mod6: Well, there are a bunch of references...
mircea_popescu: im not current on this. got a link ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i could make that read 5k by pushing a switch. idiots have nfi, counting all the ips you feel like exposing.
mod6: Nice. I've got mine built too with 'wires'. Just need to get a minute to hook it up to alf's node.
pete_dushenski: aha i jumped it a bit
pete_dushenski: though i'm entirely open to the criticism that it's like sprinkling holy water on a dented can in the hopes that clostridium botulinum feels the wrath of my gods
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i'd like to defend him by noting that social network != social media but dude's command of english leaves enough to be desired that this distinction isn't much of a leg to stand on
Framedragger: that it predicts you will click on. a lot of that reduces to "things i agree with", which is not at all bazaar-like, iiut. unless he meant "people recognising fake news for what it is, and physical word-of-mouth becoming a tool again." the latter does not imply facebook, but still sounds much too naive to my ear, but i dunno.
Framedragger: markets and souks, there is a long term advantage to being dependable." << if he's saying what i think he's saying (social networks work again!1 people use them to understand things!1) then he's beyond naive, as the modern 'social network' is nothing like that of a bazaar. the former is ~basically facebook which on top of being...facebook, selectively filters and presents "your friends' stories"
Framedragger: hmm. "The period of time that corresponds to the reliance on one-sided accounts such as television and newspapers, which can be controlled by the mandarins, lasted from the middle of the twentieth century until the U.S. elections of 2016. In that sense, social networks, allowing a two-way flow of information, put back the mechanism of tidings in its natural format. As with participants in
Framedragger: lol guardian strikes again pete_dushenski "Even then someone at The Guardian tried (unsuccessfully) to tone down my letter by showing that it was some type of *disagreement* with what *I* said, not a correction of their misrepresentation"
pete_dushenski: just a few offerings to buy the domain name 'bitcoinpet.com'!
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Quite a few times when you tried to email qntra submissions they were buried in spam que
a111: Logged on 2017-02-02 01:08 asciilifeform: http://unzip-ada.sourceforge.net/za_html/index.htm << astonishingly readable literate-programming d00d. and he has a bunch of these.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-02#1610852 << shot this dude (gautier de montmollin) an email last week and actually heard back from him. he said he was flattered at the invite but was under the assumption that 'bitcoin code was already perfect'. now seeing if i can wrangle him into channel for a visit. updates forthcoming. ☝︎
asciilifeform: allows you to be here.” Chauhan says in a blog post that Spicer's comment was racially motivated. '
asciilifeform: 'A woman has posted video of herself pointedly questioning White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer while he was out shopping at a local Apple store. ... Chauhan asks Spicer how it feels to work for “a fascist” and “what can you tell me about Russia.” Spicer smiles through the encounter and repeatedly says “thank you” to Chauhan. At one point, he tells her, “such a great country that
BingoBoingo: Attach self to mature nonprofit, eat 95% of donations and plant a couple fucking trees
BingoBoingo: Well, it's a chumatron
mircea_popescu: maybe that, but the secret of that is that you'd have to be a stupid as a 20yo "didn't like math" girl to imagine that is something to do.
mircea_popescu: there's a signfiicant difference between "actually has a profession" and "goes around trying to bully people with threats from his underworld connections"
mircea_popescu: good point, though. dude got fucked with a raw pinetree. he's 44. his career is finished. he will be washing dishes / bussing tables in a coupla years
mircea_popescu: anyway, tail -f debug.log shows a lot of activity.
mircea_popescu: screen -x results in a hanged terminal, ctrl-c does nothing, supposedlt active terminals won'\t spawn windows etc. box is otherwise fine though. fucking linux,.
asciilifeform: btw i assume this is a brand-new box, there is no blockchain on it
mircea_popescu: a sec
mircea_popescu: also, architecture-wise : i plan to get my boxes in a ring, and link 1 of you fellows to each. unless objections to the arrangement.
trinque: all servers are toilets; ass needs to be able to lay turds elsewhere at a moment's notice
asciilifeform: that being said, you can use 'wire' with anything that can maintain a ciphered tcp pipe between two boxes. dun have to be ssh.
asciilifeform: if i had a ticket to the mythical planet where programmers aren't retarded and 'the shame of poverty' is not smelled, we would not even be having the trb conversation.
asciilifeform: trinque: don't put wire-trb on your icbm-controller box. the skull is there for a reason.
mircea_popescu: you know it made me a "key" in <0.1 s ?
asciilifeform: because ssh is a product of 'satoshis', people who were dropped as children, and cannot be made to self-reignite.
asciilifeform: ( re the recipe : 'autossh' is a c proggy, from heathendom, i have not audited it. this is one of the reasons for the skull'n'crossbones. there is a similar utility called 'RSTunnel' that consists solely of bash script. but i have not tested it . )
asciilifeform: there's nothing promisetronic re copying a static bin that you built ~yourself~ to >1 box. (for one thing, it demonstrates that it is genuinely static and will run on heterogeneous boxen.) but you can do it either way.
asciilifeform: (and on any other box that will be a wire slave)
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf i was thinking' of buying that 'ivory' and making a signal interposer . any idea whether the magic cpu was soldered down, or LIF socketed..? ☟︎
asciilifeform: anyway it's entirely a timesaving measure, you entirely can load them from somebody else each time, the thing won't proceed unless the hashes match
mircea_popescu: what needs fixing is a) for srs! and probably also b) /deps/ dun belong that low.l
mircea_popescu: this is not lazy, this is sane. not every slant of roof gets a tower, because things aren't all equal, and something must be the bottom.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: once you have the contents of 'deps' again, i recommend to back it up to another dir, and to burn a cd, those turds ain't ever changing -- there will only get ~fewer~ (when we ditch, e.g., bdb)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yeah, i'm just giving him a hard time. because for srs!
ben_vulpes: device has a cost
asciilifeform repeated mircea_popescu's steps locally, just now, and got a correct result
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if you press to the makefiles head do you get a concatenation as well?
mircea_popescu: i made a special directory for it, that was empty at start.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this was a virgin space
asciilifeform: oh i have a clue :
mircea_popescu: meanwhile /me will go research how to write a patch to take out .gitignore altogether.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this looks like a bug in mod6's vtron :
mircea_popescu: yeah. and it musls all the way, it's a total collossus of german engineering.
mircea_popescu: epic. so this built splendidly, mod6 tis a pleasure working with your recipe man.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-12-21#1349879 << ah found it, that was a mod6 script I tweaked in some manner ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm as you well know the least intelligent or technically apt person here, and it takes a significant amount of backroom dealing as well as outright bribery to even get you lot to tolerate my presence.
asciilifeform: ( you have a .wot, .seals, .patches, these can be named something else, but these are their conventional names; out of these, vtron 'presses' a particular tree that you want.)
mircea_popescu: a right, we get to test this too!
asciilifeform: about a year iirc.
mircea_popescu: i imagine you'll want a bunch
mircea_popescu: i intend to make a half dozen masters, slave them to each other, and then let people get pipes. l1terate people, obviously.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: are you making a slave, or slave+master, or which
asciilifeform: this presupposes that you have a trb+wires built
mircea_popescu: so asciilifeform got an hour to hold my hand getting your ssh thing up ? i intend to bring a constellation and finally got everything lined up.
asciilifeform: i'm familiar with the usage, but it was a cache miss, been eons since i saw someone referred to as 'tourist'
asciilifeform: at one time i found a reply from al 'uncle al' schwartz that sat in a spam queue for (yes) several years
phf: it's american slang, means like a schmuck, a random person
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-13#1626306 << on top of that i brought it up with a whisperer, i got back "oh yeah, the loper os guy! i emailed him some time ago, but didn't get any response. he probably thought i'm some kind of tourist." ☝︎
mircea_popescu: no real way to make this work otherwise, sadly. unless of course one's willing to write ~a 3d simulator via html5
mircea_popescu: meh yeah it's js'd. a well
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/03/13/my-future-last-laugh/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - My Future (last laugh)
ben_vulpes: i figured it was a shoo-in to provide a sham escape valve for 401k funbucks
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform also has a ~working~ 3620 but it is useless for phf's purpose , it was implemented as massive pile of ttl and a few ~dozen~ gate arrays )
asciilifeform: asciilifeform bought a massive pile of dead sbmx iron many years ago. thought that somewhere in it is $part. turns out 0.
mircea_popescu: you've a long way to come in ranting quality, m'boy!
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 01:41 phf: asciilifeform: i don't think that's a wasted effort. i got in touch with zeptobars people again, and my current best option (since they said shipping to russia is maddness) is to travel moscows sometime in summer and hand deliver the chip. assuming that i have one, but i take it you're no longer interested since "snap4 source"
a111: Logged on 2017-03-13 00:13 asciilifeform: !~later tell phf i dug out my crate of dead bolix boards, turns out i'm a chump, the pcb in question was a dead xl1200 ~i/o~ board. the only cpu on it is what looks like a z80! 0 smbx silicon.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf i dug out my crate of dead bolix boards, turns out i'm a chump, the pcb in question was a dead xl1200 ~i/o~ board. the only cpu on it is what looks like a z80! 0 smbx silicon. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: yeah the find a flag by polaris story is pretty cool.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i understand, but i mean the *detail*, etc. - it's a nice manual with everything spelled out for the user
asciilifeform: i made the mistake of editing the text on a crapple shitintosh
Framedragger: asciilifeform: mno, this was a super random find, was going over some logs, re-read piece of your sage probe article, poked source out of curiosity
asciilifeform: Framedragger: you have a probe nao ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's a kickass article so there is that.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 14:39 mircea_popescu: you ever go to school ? what usually happens there's a chick there that's really good pre-puberty. then she starts bleeding, and she skips some classes / homeworks / attentionpaying. and then... she can never catch back up again. because interlocking.
mircea_popescu: it is a very false idea that what we say here "is in the open" and thereby "anyone could" etc. the prb devs can't, notwithstanding their own delusions of information and ability.