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snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-20 21:07:20 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: relatedly, the trad ru 'ethno-slur' for poles, 'пшеки', is quite a bit like 'пшик', what nominally spray can says.
snsabot: Logged on 2016-12-28 16:44:23 Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-28#1592214 << entirely possible folx weren't aware of phuctor, it's not exactly advertised much. (then again, cue mp's "they don't have a right/privilege not to be aware"..)
asciilifeform: meanwhile... 'random log button' yields a historic lulzthread .
BingoBoingo: Also a couple newer one that go from Fortaleza to different places in Africa
asciilifeform: a.
asciilifeform: last i knew there were 0 direct lines from south a. to europistan, at all.
asciilifeform: hrm mebbe my globe is upside-down, but i can't easily picture how cable can run from riga to south a. direct..
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-21 00:00:24 asciilifeform: ( often enuff there's a concealed -- if not always well-concealed -- roundtrip to london / washington, sitting in 'between austria and switzerland' etc )
diana_alt: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-21#1929962 - yesterday I ran a traceroute on both (nosuchlabs and btcbase) and it was going via stockholm+london for btcbase but not for nosuchlabs (iirc it was riga and then s.america)
asciilifeform: ( often enuff there's a concealed -- if not always well-concealed -- roundtrip to london / washington, sitting in 'between austria and switzerland' etc )
lobbes: this is a point indeed (btw no worries earlier; I was calling myself dumb if anything haha)
snsabot: Logged on 2016-09-16 22:54:18 trinque: BingoBoingo: aha, in fact there was a thread where mircea_popescu explained that y'know, you teach the women things
trinque: just pointing out that when you start telling 'em what, could possibly even have a *happy and productive* home
lobbes: we were together 8 years, mind. Living together for 7 of those 8, which made me ~23 when we got together. I was even dumber then, and the bad habits were engrained long before I got a clue
trinque: lobbes: you know, mircea_popescu asked me this when I told a similar tale of misbehaving woman wrecking the home.
asciilifeform: rright. wedge could easily be happening on acct of some idjit perl running on a crab usg clamped to cable in bermuda triangle...
asciilifeform: it's entirely conceivable tho that the wedge is on acct of a http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-08-20#1000423 !
asciilifeform: trinque: it is interesting that the ssl thing gets wedged. if i had free hand might even try to find where -- could be a 0day in there, potentially
snsabot: Logged on 2019-01-02 11:38:20 asciilifeform: if one absolutely insists on that feature, prolly Right Thing would be to patch bot so can hang off a znc ( i tried this with own hands, but failed, the existing item is apparently tailored to fleanode-direct connection )
asciilifeform: trinque: in yours, tho, iirc there ~is~ such a knob (it waits for a fleanode-specific ack string when connects)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: relatedly, the trad ru 'ethno-slur' for poles, 'пшеки', is quite a bit like 'пшик', what nominally spray can says.
asciilifeform: 'they're pretty much the only linguistic group very much in danger of mistaking industrial sounds for speech. Careful if you, for instance, use a can of compressed air to clean an old motherboard -- it's entirely possible the resulting vijiieli, indistinct as they may sound to your ear, nevertheless insult the Polish passerby's long dead relatives in the sauciest of manners.' << asciilifeform falls down.
asciilifeform: ( recently, asciilifeform's brother : 'know what, mr p could design an os; you can't' a: 'why's that' b: 'he has the beard' )
asciilifeform: also a+++ tripartite beard.
asciilifeform: folx who won't train their pets, will end on a leash themselves, noose at 11...
lobbes: that article, man. It is what set the gears in my head in motion. Read it on a plane flight some years ago and realized I was walking into a trap
mp_en_viaje: as per the http://trilema.com/2018/traditional-family-vs-the-harem-a-comparative-study/ dichotomy, one can acquire the useless female either by hunting stupidly or by wife spawning shit.
lobbes: same here. seems to get a lot of folks (wasn't the thickastheives guy in a similar boat?)
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/a-little-bit-of-that-old-world-charm-style-grace/ << Trilema -- A little bit of that old world charm, style & grace.
mp_en_viaje: in other news, dude lobbes dodged a dependopotamus bullet ?
lobbes: really simple to backup the database too when it is just a single 'file'. cron and scp ftw
asciilifeform: phuctor for 1st 2y of its life actually lived in a sqlite, and in fact this was faster than pg when data set weighed <1GB
asciilifeform: ( i.e. theoretically might even be faster if one were to sit it down in a sqlite rather than postgres. that is, if there were any actual need to make this thing faster, currently seems that there is not any such need )
asciilifeform: lobbes: it aint a very 'hungry' proggy -- e.g. the db presently weighs <70MB
lobbes: meanwhile, I've been looking at some dedicated server options, primarily for a second trb node on a proper ssd, but I will stand up a 'production' copy of asciilifeform's logotron as well
asciilifeform: ( jizzus , per legend, could feed a legion with 2 fish, but even he could not , i suspect, feed legion with 1 unmetered 100M pipe... )
asciilifeform: not a properly threaded one
asciilifeform: ( granted there aint a fiber through the diameter. but. )
mp_en_viaje is writing an article and then hopping on a plane, but in principle.
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local news, Red Bell Peppers price rises above ground beef price (green bell pepper still priced like produce) https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/el-morron-rojo-llega-a-250-y-el-consumidor-tiene-parte-de-la-culpa-2019816181427
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-19 21:55:06 asciilifeform: i expect at some pt mp will say to anyone in l1 who aint running a logger, 'партбилет на стол!'(tm)(r)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-19 17:35:50 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hard to say for fact, but seems to add up to a picture where's there's a ~0.5s bottleneck b/w south amer. and errywhere else.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-19 16:52:17 asciilifeform: this experiment also reveals that asciilifeform's logotron will in fact stand up, with no modifications, on a python, flask, pg, etc. plucked out of arbitrary rubbish bin.
mp_en_viaje: on the first pass it appears as a complete disinterest in "feelings", but it fundamentally is a method for the valuation of human activity. and therefore complete ethics and a set of morals. co
mp_en_viaje: meaning that all prediction as to the future is to be based on METHODOLOGICAL considerations. how well the method was applied, and how uniformly, over how homogenous a sample with how good expected coverage. that's all.
mp_en_viaje: but the important point is, METHODOLOGY. science, not as "the profession" nor as "the professional activity", but as the occupation, science as in, productive, not science as in, socially acceptable -- IS A BEHAVIOUR. that's all it is, applying a method systematically.
mp_en_viaje: (amusingly, there was an article i ran into that made the exact point, in a list of four. meanwhile (superficially) reviewed the complete list of trilema articles i looked at this month (on this mchine), >6k lines, did not find it anymore. fuck me. and then of course there's http://trilema.com/2019/pizd-atrage-da-curu-trage-ca-n-viata-tragic/ )
asciilifeform: i expect at some pt mp will say to anyone in l1 who aint running a logger, 'партбилет на стол!'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this remains a mystery. i gotta wonder if there's something peculiar re our routing, which gives this effect.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-19 16:13:02 BingoBoingo: I remember a thread from last year where trinque saw long pings doing something at the same time MP was enjoying incredibly fast ping to Eulora server
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hard to say for fact, but seems to add up to a picture where's there's a ~0.5s bottleneck b/w south amer. and errywhere else.
asciilifeform: i'ma switch this thing off in coupla days, once errybody's taken the offered measurement and is satisfied ( i dun want a 'fossilized' logger sitting for idiots to find and think 'they're dead' )
asciilifeform: this experiment also reveals that asciilifeform's logotron will in fact stand up, with no modifications, on a python, flask, pg, etc. plucked out of arbitrary rubbish bin.
asciilifeform: errybody's welcome to play with the mirror ( it's a '1st month -- phreeee!' pseudo-machine , i'ma leave it up for a spell, tho it will , obv., grow no new log lines )
asciilifeform: oook here's an experiment : asciilifeform set up a mirror of the logotron on a cheap heathen host. ( one of the most rubbish hosters known, lulazon's . hence cannot in fact stand up copy of bot there, fleanode bans conns from it unless sslized. but the db is current. )
BingoBoingo: I remember a thread from last year where trinque saw long pings doing something at the same time MP was enjoying incredibly fast ping to Eulora server
BingoBoingo: From other machine time goes up a smidge: "real 0m0.035s"
asciilifeform: diana_alt: reasons to suspect the pipe, include this: i have stood up temporarily a raw flask on port 33. try time curl "http://logs.nosuchlabs.com:33/log" > /dev/null
asciilifeform: neither phuctor nor logger is written in such a way as to force the choice of either nginx or apache as the front-side proxy, will eat either just the same. simply requires the appropriate config.
asciilifeform: ( at one pt, long ago, when baked phuctor, asciilifeform had a preference for nginx, but it turned out to be ill-founded . currently both phuctor and log www are served by a nginx . )
diana_alt: so there's still a totally unknown but significant delay on logger, weird stuff
asciilifeform: lobbes: possibly it can even be used to bake a phf-style refill/sync system that eats znc.
asciilifeform: that one pretty certain was a 'tits service' candidate who turned out to be some d00d, compl. w/ stubble
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, the footnote is very good, but NOT actually the item i was looking for ;/ which is, i can see it in my mind'seye, specifically a line in the lgo saying that the problem with intelligent people is that they want to put that intelligence to use. the context was something about dying in the trenches.
asciilifeform: the steering wheel, btw, found
mp_en_viaje: and meanwhile progressed to also missing a line where i say "if you were born male, you're male still, irrespective of how you might've abused your body in the meanwhile".
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, anyone happen to recall where the fuck i put in the log a line about how the problem with intelligent people is that they don't want mere solutions, but specifically solutions that rely on that intelligence.
mp_en_viaje: i guess it was a metaphore!
mp_en_viaje: he waved a handgun out of window
mp_en_viaje: the one utility for thermodynamic weaponry is discussed in http://trilema.com/2015/a-blast-from-the-past-or-the-molotov-cocktail-guide-this-is-how-you-win/ ; they're good for disrupting positioningof enemy
mp_en_viaje: i'm done, Neil Fraser's a fucking moron.
mp_en_viaje: diff is used on computer non-language, which is a beast of pattern.
mp_en_viaje: then he uses https://neil.fraser.name/writing/patch/pattern-pp.png "patterns in pride and prejudice", because a) that ignominous dumb cunt is somehow to be referenced, in literature. AS FUCKING IF. and then, because code has the fuck anything to do with language, at all.
mp_en_viaje: "However, the program becomes more complicated when the two copies of the base document are not identical. In these cases the patch program must do the best job it can in applying the " << motherfucker monkeys, how the fuck did this rank imbecile manage to make stupidity sound like "a challenge" ?
mp_en_viaje: cancer starts as a dream.
mp_en_viaje: if you review period fiction, it's present in a majority of items, too. just as vague, unanchored... making it all retrospectively so fucking obvious.
mp_en_viaje: heck, the 90s passed by undetected, i had nfi as late as 1999 besides a vague, unanchored and inexpressible feeling "something's wrong"
hanbot_derpy: howdy, ty. just wanted to say i'ma write to the povey d00d, has a sort of pre-joe stack feel...
mp_en_viaje: it's a sort of #trilema-goes-dark, of sorts, but longer on a smaller chan for heavier lifting.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929501 << i've been travelling so not playing ; danielpbarron left for greener pastures in the intellectual desert ; diana working more playing less these days, same for mocky i suspect ; hanbot and nicole travelling with me, it's just... large potion of the userbase simultaneously quit, from a naive pov. from the connected pov ~everyone will be back, especially as new server / client are avail.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929491 << dude, totally, john hopkins' right over there. why don't you ask the man out, buy him a steak, see ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929440 << no, actually, your state is bliss, finding yourself as you are a man whom nobody taught nonsense. that you don't have to first unlearn "my hoovercraft is fulla eels" is a grand boon.
mp_en_viaje: fi you don't have a bureaucracy, the kinetics of many-moving-hot-metal-bits still beats the thermodynamics of delta-energy.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 15:19:57 asciilifeform: anyffin to keep the 'feel like a trader'(tm) tards from waking up to fact that pressure washer + petrol easily mows down 1000+ , while e.g. kalash into crowd, lucky if 100.
diana_alt: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929501 - eulora's next phase awaits the new client basically; so yes, it's been quiet in game too for quite a while.
lobbes: asciilifeform: sounds good. So far it ate 160k lines of #e archive. However, found a bug in my znc2tmsr code where if line payload was null, my thing did not output a ';' at the end
asciilifeform: lobbes: let it eat the #u archive, then run reader.py, take a look at the known barf lines from before. if it ate correctly, make again vpatch (from current leaf of tree) and i'ma sign, then eat on dulap.
lobbes: had to add two lines to eat_dump.py; going to try now with a larger test dataset
BingoBoingo: I'll shoot him a note unless you want to invite him to meet up for lunch or something. Seems like he's still in your neighborhood.
trinque: lolwut, that was a terminal window scroll
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 21:33:39 asciilifeform: trinque's sample is a+++ imho. oughta go in.
lobbes: micro-nit, but I noticed the example syntax for creating a database in logotron README.txt is noted as 'createdb', but in most of the documentation I've checked it is 'CREATE DATABASE' (https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.4/sql-createdatabase.html)
snsabot: Logged on 2018-01-28 11:45:00 asciilifeform: diff -uNr $1 $2 | awk 'm = /^(--- a|\+\+\+)/{cmd="sha512sum \"" $2 "\" 2>/dev/null ";s=cmd| getline x; if (s) { split(x, a, " "); o = a[1]; } else {o = "false";} close(cmd); print $1 " " $2 " " o} !m { print $0 }'
asciilifeform: lobbes: in traditional heathen patching, gnupatch will attempt to shoehorn a patch into place for so long as it does not entirely conflict with the existing text
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 14:51:34 asciilifeform: diana_alt: fella seems to have profound talent for reading text w/out ~actually~ reading. (for instance, escaped noticing that primary diff. b/w a vpatch and a heathen patch, isn't that it is pgp signed (heathens had pgp-signed patches 20y ago) but that it doesn't fuzzy-merge.
asciilifeform: anyffin to keep the 'feel like a trader'(tm) tards from waking up to fact that pressure washer + petrol easily mows down 1000+ , while e.g. kalash into crowd, lucky if 100.
asciilifeform: 'hey is that a 20 tonne gas-air bomb falling on our head?' 'aha. must be will of allah.'
BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929384 << Note that global state of the art in this area has fallen from Warthog to Super Tucano. Much as the SR-71 and concorde are gone, the Warthog has been out of print for a while. Maybe the Chicoms make a flying tank at some point, but the art has fallen from flying tank to flying toyota Hilux
mp_en_viaje: i gotta find that "isis manual" now, was such a piece of lulzy idiocy...
mp_en_viaje: or w/e, if the inventor of shorthand not good enough, claudius' mother was a whore named a caneis.