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asciilifeform: imho could be interesting to attempt a similar survey , but without the asinine filtration ( and on top of this, to forgo listing the liquishit that makes up 99+% of the supposed net )
asciilifeform: ( granted if mircea_popescu has a mpb noad there, it won't show in in this heathen www , iirc they filter vers. #s <0.8 )
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ltRHd << per same, of the 4 public noadez in BingoBoingostan, 3 are in pizarro ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: in related lulz, according to the above heathen noad surveyor , #1 pseudonode hoster aint lulazon any moar, but : hetzner ( 1029 , vs lulazon's 726 )
asciilifeform: unobtainium, near as i can tell, at any price.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: recall, coupla yrs ago asciilifeform considered to buy one, then found he dun quite have the budget for the req'd terraforming
asciilifeform: reminds me of those blox of flats in bmore, where city brings out bulldozer when the 1 remaining old d00d in it finally keels
BingoBoingo: But that's about it
asciilifeform: lolyea got this from the qntra
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's the google thing Linus kept his almost blog on
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell Mocky Don't forget to foto blog ☟︎
phf: trinque: ack, but i've also noticed that if i were to import ascii's new key over ascii's old key it resets the expirations on both pub and sub, so let me figure out what's going
trinque would prefer phf just sign "I would like trinque to delete my key and reimport X" for sanity's sake, as it saves me from having to reason through whether this new key is an acceptable substitute for prev, incurring all the "how does gpg really work again?" and so on.
asciilifeform: ( is why i de-expired mine, so i dun have to ask trinque for this favour again )
asciilifeform: phf: you should still be able to override the clock and sign a letter to trinque with old pub
phf: trinque: yeah, it basically appended all the new bits on top, and didn't reset the pub key's expire. you would have to do --delete-key before --import
trinque: I used the gpg --import, which I gather didn't work
asciilifeform: aah the prev yes
phf: asciilifeform: did yours had both pub and sub set to expire, or only sub? you also probably has only one identity in your key
asciilifeform: what i am puzzled by, is why i did not have this headache myself when i de-expired mine last yr
asciilifeform: gpg --import behaves like this.
phf: asciilifeform: it looks like key updates got merge into the old key, rather than replacin it. the pub is the same, and hasn't been update (still marked as expired), but sub has been replaced, and is now "expired: never". it also added the new identity (where i removed the email) to the rest of the existing identities
asciilifeform: ( twist : if you dun buy the insurance, the tooth-diddlers & quacks charge 2x )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dunno if you know how the local racket worx, but 120bux is what i actually paid on site; but if i add up the insurance premiums, it's ~breakeven
asciilifeform: phf: the deedbot one still does contain a sign with today's date tho
phf: asciilifeform: yeah, the paste shows that i grab keys from both urls, and the deedbot one is still the old key
asciilifeform: ( i get exactly that pub 4096R/52432A9E 2013-10-06 [expired: 2018-10-07] )
asciilifeform: phf: try the one that deedbot returns to !!key , it dun go
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> speaking of streets, street names appear totally optional, address can be a paragraph long description. << AHA, Montevideo killed that with sane street numbering, but apparently that happens in the boonies here
phf: trinque: i think something failed in the deedbot update, because the scrubbed key at link is proper. i've tested it, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cIIG6/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> asciilifeform, for ~1k bux you can probably fly to Ro and back and have the dentist treatment included too? << Also that sound like maybe 100-120 USD in Uruguay
trinque will take a signed message from phf on what cruft to saw off ☟︎
asciilifeform: tho it could be artifact of gpg on trinque end, depending on how he keeps these ( if you use the built-in 'import' mechanism, it never throws out cruft )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:31 phf: i had expiration set on it, which i finally removed for good. the thinking at the time was that i didn't really trust my opsec (mac was still in the loop), but it wasn't much of thinking since the mechanism is promisetronic anyway. i also took an opportunity to clean it up off extra "identities" and random signatures
asciilifeform: phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859792 << ftr the crud-scrubbing didn't work either, various old cruft still apparently in there ☝︎
trinque will bbl to further dissect
asciilifeform: pretty odd tho, per my understanding it oughta work
asciilifeform: confirmed that gpg still thinks 'expired' after eating
asciilifeform: or hm no, has a new sig with today's date
asciilifeform: ^ loox like the old one ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:30 phf: trinque: can you please update my wot key one last time. http://btcbase.org/data/wot/phf.asc
asciilifeform: Mocky: i seem to recall that they have petro-smog
diana_coman: asciilifeform, in some places they do but it wasn't the norm or everywhere/by default
Mocky: the air looks quite smoggy, but also over the gulf and away from the city to the point where I wondered if it was actually smog
asciilifeform: Mocky: does the place live up to the reputation for 'top smog' ? ☟︎
diana_coman: in costa rica I know they don't
diana_coman: hm, speaking of costa rica style...do they actually have hot water at the taps in costa rica (i.e. not shower only)? ☟︎
Mocky: it was funny to fly over the rural areas of qatar and see so many traffic circles and ~25% have a branch that dead ends into desert. prepared for growth i guess
asciilifeform recalls mailing a FG to CR and address wouldn't fit on the customs form
Mocky: speaking of streets, street names appear totally optional, address can be a paragraph long description. ☟︎
Mocky: the building style is very different from what I've seen before, but ~all the signs include english subtitles for traffic and store fronts
Mocky: diana_coman, no worries, prolly better to expose the issue sooner than later
asciilifeform: eh we have these here in washingtonistan
Mocky: asciilifeform, nice and warm. encountered a traffic wtf. stop light in the middle of the city with literal 10 minute cycle time in one direction ~20 seconds. took 3 cycles for my taxi to get thru ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:20 diana_coman: Mocky, btw sorry for the mess up with your public key; did it actually create a problem other than the wrong wot.deedbot graph?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: erry so often i try an' search for some symptom that heathens know of trb etc., ~never found
diana_coman: (so perhaps there ...is somewhere, well hidden?)
diana_coman: granted, I did not search for this but still
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it's not as much those particular slides themselves - it's simply that I haven't seen anything *other that that* in *any* "academia" material/discussion anywhere
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:04 asciilifeform: 'As more people with less commitment to quality and much less attention to detail got involved in writing it, its educational value diminished, too. It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an in
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:11 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859786 -> I tend to agree; given how easily I could tell the poor lecturer what was in his inherited slides *before I even saw them*, I guess they literally have (echo of an echo)^n and it was anyway just some hearsay to start with
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859842 << erry so often, when using searchtrons, i run across some slide deck from e.g. uni of bangalore etc., they invariably have this flavour, where it is clear that deck itself was made from googlelolade , ☝︎
asciilifeform: by that token, cuba prolly even cheaper ( tho getting to it from the reich is a little tricky )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:15 diana_coman: asciilifeform, for ~1k bux you can probably fly to Ro and back and have the dentist treatment included too?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859844 << if not counting the time -- then just about == , i expect, to a few % ☝︎
diana_coman: Mocky, btw sorry for the mess up with your public key; did it actually create a problem other than the wrong wot.deedbot graph? ☟︎
diana_coman: asciilifeform, for ~1k bux you can probably fly to Ro and back and have the dentist treatment included too? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:12 lobbes: deliberate misinformation, it is simply that they have ~0 information to begin with
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859786 -> I tend to agree; given how easily I could tell the poor lecturer what was in his inherited slides *before I even saw them*, I guess they literally have (echo of an echo)^n and it was anyway just some hearsay to start with ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform back from dentist... new one better than prev, nao with anaesthetic! tho costs ~3x moar, pretty impressive inflatola, ~1k orcbux for ~halfhr of drill ☟︎
asciilifeform: oh hey ty phf !
mircea_popescu: off to the beach. plox not replace my key meanwhile.
asciilifeform: plenty of lulz in there
a111: Logged on 2017-10-02 00:49 asciilifeform: the funniest bit is that anybody who spends a few $10k to find sha1 collision, can take it one step further and make a valid subkey for asciilifeform's, or mircea_popescu's, etc. key
a111: Logged on 2016-01-05 01:37 asciilifeform: anyone recall how mircea_popescu spewed chunks when i pointed out that he's been signing with a subkey and not with the magical modulus ?
a111: Logged on 2016-01-05 01:37 asciilifeform: my main objection to subkey as implemented in gpg is that IT DOES NOT TELL YOU OR EVEN LET YOU CHOOSE with which modulus (i.e. which sub) it actually signs with !
mircea_popescu: then we'd know this is a
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you know what'd have been the lulz of all time ? if both pastes had the same 5digit id
mircea_popescu: trinque she has a point, that table needs a unique on the fp column. deedbot can't accept registeration of keys it's already seen. ☟︎☟︎
diana_coman: the !!reputation thing is correct there though; so it might be only the visualizer
diana_coman: but hm, does this mean that basically anyone can register the public keys and mess up the http://wot.deedbot.org/ ?
phf: but yeah, it comes up from time to time. i finally took time to observe the mechanism in action
diana_coman: sorry about the mess there trinque
phf: i was under the impression that the subkey gets created as a default genkey behavior, but then you can shuffle things around through edit-key. if you were to remove the subkey through edit key leaving only primary, gnupg refuses to use the primary for encryption.
mircea_popescu: phf we've all ranted about it at some time or another. needless to say replacement rsatron does not include idiotic half-baked state machines. much like trb-i doesn't include "accounts" nonsense.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, o.O apparently I ...did; and I found out how, as well: the crappy lappy on which I had the away account had imported a few public keys, first of which Mocky's
phf: in related apparently you can't have a key without a subkey. the whole primary key/subkey mechanism appears to be mandatory. i think asciilifeform might've ranted about it, but i've not seen it mentioned in the logs
phf: i had expiration set on it, which i finally removed for good. the thinking at the time was that i didn't really trust my opsec (mac was still in the loop), but it wasn't much of thinking since the mechanism is promisetronic anyway. i also took an opportunity to clean it up off extra "identities" and random signatures ☟︎
phf: trinque: can you please update my wot key one last time. http://btcbase.org/data/wot/phf.asc ☟︎
phf: asciilifeform: apparently it's not been taught
Mocky: thx lobbes. and thx asciilifeform, BingoBoingo, mod6, mircea_popescu
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=47 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 10/07/2018
lobbes: deliberate misinformation, it is simply that they have ~0 information to begin with ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 18:56 diana_coman: it's more a matter of wtf to do to get through to them in the least seeing how they are so ...far away on all dimensions to any reality
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859601 << far away they are. not too long ago I went to an "Understanding Cryptocurrencies and Blockchain" webinar type thing here at $usg.toobigtofailbank. As you'd expect, was filled to the brim with such lulzgems as "Unlike bonds/equities, cryptocurrency has no intrinsic value. No way to establish price point!!". imo They are so far from reality it isn't even ☝︎
lobbes: congrats Mocky on the safe landing!
mod6: Heheh. Maybe so. I'd like to think I'm getting more crusty in my old age, but maybe not!
mircea_popescu: yes but unlike all these other assholes you're a kind and caring soul, mod6
mod6: I don't think I laughed, it's super hard job, even if you know what is going on. Can't imagine if you don't.
mircea_popescu: thereby proving the point.