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mircea_popescu: now consider the by now famous
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1583902 and understand that the negative case WILL get the brightest minds. not once or twice, it's perfecrtly capable of getting you again and again and this doesn'rt even speak to how smart you are. how inexperienced at best, in terms of "not yet wounded by practical experience enough to systematically reject the null case".
☝︎ mircea_popescu: the items are DANGEROUS, specifically because they exploit a fundamental weakness of the human brain. they're like guns to dodos, unperceived, deadly.
mircea_popescu: the point re thompson's compiler is easily misunderstood, in the sense of being conceptualized too narrowly. that unwarranted narrowness then permits you to handwave his objection re null ciphers in the actual technical discussion ; but look how you fell for an obfuscated null cipher yourself right here!
mircea_popescu: i want to take the time here and delve upon the recursion for your benefit.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701957 << no, his objection actually is "tls ingredient sucks and recipe sucks whereas noise is not a recipe and it doesn't have ingredients". he is correclty rejecting what, contrary to elaborately crafted appearance, is a null cipher.
☝︎ mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701949 << very much a standard in the proper sense. standard should specify what must be specified, and NOT specifiy what needn't be specified. which is why all tmsr standards, or at least the ones i wrote, have this very prominent characteristic. "do it whichever way you do it". connects straight up with ye olde specificity of diddling.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: girl notices she dun have tits, is "ironic" about it ; that dun help, she's "ironic" about it not working, becomes janine garofalo. PROBLEM SOLVED! and if not solved, can always be ironic about being janine garofalo.
mircea_popescu: this ever-meta-regression is a prominent feature of broken ideal systems, a good model for which is of course adolescentine "irony".
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701941 << the dispute you ended up in is due to the fact that he recognizes a pattern you do not. whether you will come to recognize it in time or not is an open matter, and not required for the discussion. the point is, the way the empire resolves the problem of practical failure (tls is a piece of shit ; socialism is risible bullshit) is to take refuge in meta (here's a tls-framework! let'
☝︎ mircea_popescu: (no, i don't just mean reddit pick-up artistry. anglican church same exact thing.)
mircea_popescu: this sound familiar ? and if familiar, does it still make sense ?
mircea_popescu: some kids who couldn't get laid got together and created... a framework for... other people getting laid.
mircea_popescu: wtf is with this nonsensical "now i will repeat debunked nonsense insistently!" mode.
mircea_popescu: reduction in spending slows down the growth of the bezzle.
mircea_popescu: that's the fucking problem. the bezzle rate = difference between real and nominal growth.
mircea_popescu: if you reduce spending you reduce REAL consumption and NOMINAL income
mircea_popescu: summer ends, girls come back to school, some with tits. the ones without -- discover socialism. that first week in september.
mircea_popescu: socialism is 100% a 12yo girl noticing the other girl has tits and she doesn't. that's where socialism is born, in the 7th grade class.
mircea_popescu: mno. socialism comes about as the young failure discovers other kids can in fact morph into adults.
mircea_popescu: r0nin- not all of them speak of it ; all hate it like you do.
mircea_popescu: that's why socialists hate interest so much : because it is the prick that deflates the nominalist balloons into the reality shapes subiacent.
mircea_popescu: and IT EXISTS so as to bring the names in coupling with reality.
mircea_popescu: whole fucking principle of interest is based on nominalism.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but in the country where "everyone agreed" not to save, then savings depressing rate is a myth. much like in class where "the class community" has agreed not to do any homework, the punishment for missing homework is a myth.
mircea_popescu: again, because man, and because don't owe anyone anything.
mircea_popescu: because why, because i gotta spend money i don't have on suits i can't afford to impress r0nin- ?
mircea_popescu: and if the rates are high, i increase savings and push the rates down.
mircea_popescu: and keep doing this until the economy is too flush with savings to keep the rates high.
mircea_popescu: r0nin- farm doesn't HAVE to increase output. if the sconto rate is too high, i will simply sell an extra egg and invest.
mircea_popescu: your usury thing is not unlike linking organized crime with belt buckles. because belt buckles present at all shootings! and made of tin-copper alloy!
mircea_popescu: happened to rome, happened to paris, happened to london.
mircea_popescu: in a dozen or so cycles, france goes from main country in the world to footnote in geographical area.
mircea_popescu: then guillotine brings in a new normal in terms of social proofs, which allows the cycle to start over.
mircea_popescu: living above means -> economic failure -> ra ra socialism -> guillotine. that's how the engine works.
mircea_popescu: no, they ate their farms. exactly as how 1600s frenchmen ate their farms, became "french republic" because too poor to continue kingdom.
mircea_popescu: which is why they had the office of the censor, and which is why it was illegal for the womenz to wear expensive textiles, and so on.
mircea_popescu: that's 1800s. throughout, everywhere, including the self-same romans understand this.
mircea_popescu: and the undersranding of this being what it is, is universal. flaubert has piece explaining how dr bovary sucked at farming because he ate his farm.
mircea_popescu: they started eating their chickens. living above means.
mircea_popescu: understand something : a new chicken is born on a farm. this chicken grows into either capital good or else consumption. THE SAME chicken.
mircea_popescu: much exactly like the history of the us, except stretched over 3x the time.
mircea_popescu: early soldier cultivated it and built a civilisation. late soldier attempted to live above his means to justify socially his internal ineptitude.
mircea_popescu: nonsense. after 20-25 years of battling, soldier got money and land.
mircea_popescu: wealth concentrated in latifundias to protect itself from the inept mismanagement of soldiers who had become welfare cases over a century since marian's obamacare.
mircea_popescu: r0nin- veneta kept up for a millenium. no SOCIALIST system in history can keep up with its socialism, which is why roman empire and usian empire both crapped.
mircea_popescu: capital failing situation is eg, enemy bombardment. then capital fails, then you protect labour.
mircea_popescu: let them fucking figure out how. i just give out the signal if.
mircea_popescu: i don't care how. this isn't explainy hour. the cooperation of the fucker-upper is neither sought nor required.
mircea_popescu: but i very much recommend actual, physical, public-pillory beatings.
mircea_popescu: r0nin- ayup. and it is the correct move if you'ere not willing to actually beat the fuckers.
mircea_popescu: wtf is this "We'll solve the problems for them". no, bitch. we think the unemployment among X group is too high, that group gets beaten until it fixes it!
mircea_popescu: tell them, too. it;'s either unemploymenty under 2% or beatings for a week straight each month.
mircea_popescu: nobody goes "oh fuck, unemployment among < 25 yos is 50% ? hahaha! pick up all kids, beat them for a week solid, then see."
mircea_popescu: and why should they! human rights! living wage! no rape!
mircea_popescu: or to anything, really. they'll reddit, that's about it.
mircea_popescu: tell you what though : in the 70s everyone was getting his hjookers in italy, from visconti to the swiss.