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mircea_popescu: well i wasn't gonna pick THAT example :D
mircea_popescu: "but mp, they were built to last. think, you could still have it!!" yeah. i could. and it'd be worth 25k in today's dollars, and it'd still be a 15 inch mcga or w/e the fuck it was
shinohai: I'm jelly mod6 but gg
mircea_popescu: enjoy teh tv fiction, i say, tis as close as you're fucking getting.
mircea_popescu: oh incidentally, for the socialists in attendance : watch "quiz show". it's an utter piece of crap i couldn't comprehend why anyone bothered making until we got to the scene where the white priviledge guy apologizes for existing.
mircea_popescu: "roses are sweet, bruises are blue, i had a great time but not as great as your asshole is now."
mircea_popescu: gotta love the "routine" device of the SOPS also. "john smith, why did you wait in a black van behind the highschool for the cheerleaders to come out, then chased one down, stripped her naked, tied her and took her to your van ?" "oh, i ALWAYS DO THIS!"
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea what sort of frogbrains havwe to be in these brainboxes.
pete_dushenski: on that high note, i'll call it an eve. bon soir!
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/fmGhw << i don't even know where to begin with this 'day in the life of 28yo credit suisse banker'. is bi that fucking cocksure that they think their readers will swallow pictostory about nice kid who plays squash and eats in cafeteria all day ? as if this kid isn't pushing dodgy shit onto worthless clients he and his bank don't give a shit about all because his higher-ups have some bad
mircea_popescu: i would expect any host trying to make money with vm to have kicked him off
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: 'Every service is in a dedicated VM container' << i'm not clear on difference between vm and vps, but i have at least one trb box on vm it seems.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-23 04:46 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1631221 << define 'possible'. >x connections ? doesn't crash ? because i've been running trb on vps since it came out and have no particular complaints other than semi-regular st9 errors.
mircea_popescu: i never got much more from gates than from any other zigglar.
mircea_popescu: i dunno bout that. maybe.
mircea_popescu: i've determined no such thing. i jus' said, i dunsee it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your proposed cut of the gordian knot was "let mp feel what i feel!!11"
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 23:34 mircea_popescu: tbh i have nfi how you could run trb in a vps. i don't think it's possible, not really. would be certainly quite the medal of merit on any software that can handle such.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1631221 << define 'possible'. >x connections ? doesn't crash ? because i've been running trb on vps since it came out and have no particular complaints other than semi-regular st9 errors. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's just a different category of special pleading. even if you get me to fuck liz taylor tonight, and even if i personally fucking love it and propose marriage, i still won't agree she's structurally different from womanhood.
asciilifeform: well i can't very well by force of magic will, teleport mircea_popescu into a pre-airbrake train so he can feel he diff on own skin.
mircea_popescu: i tell you i dun see it.
mircea_popescu: i see you claiming it, it's just not sticking. evidently digital accumulators exist. no horse.
mircea_popescu: what am i going to learn blowing a million dollars worth of highly energetic photons on the 55 chevy engine block ? how to cut metal with analog calipers ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: girl (rather cute, i might add) said she just wants to lurk to start. read logs etc. i've pointed her towards registering her key with deedbot and said she can ask q's via pm or pgpgram. we'll see what comes of the endeavour i guess.
mircea_popescu: there's just about nothing interesting you could find by opening hood of ancient car, as an engine designer today. not one trhing. most of them are collected, and are revered by a so-minded public, and aren't documented worth didly squat. i dun think this sunday hobby item is different from that.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1630992 << was elaine ou, a phd cum writer whom i invited over (via pgpgram!) after reading http://elaineou.com/2017/03/17/the-bitcoin-backlog/ recently. definitely seems brighter than average. ☝︎
shinohai: Their loss, I'm sorry for it.
doppler: that post was among the first I read
doppler: I do see why that would be to their advantage
doppler: I see.
asciilifeform: i have 100% of the published documentation here.
asciilifeform: i know for a fact that some of them -- are dead.
asciilifeform: however that is precisely what i'm interested in.
doppler: hmm, i see
doppler: well I suppose it wouldn't hurt to ask them
asciilifeform: the 'i know people...' is what prompted the req.
doppler: I say I'm here to learn and you hit me with such a request :)
doppler: I wish.
doppler: so really I'm here to learn
doppler: I have enjoyed the content that I have read in the logs over some months and watched scroll by as I idled here the past few days
doppler: phf knows at least one of the people i know
doppler: but I'm very interested in the topic
doppler: I haven't done anything in that regard personally
doppler: haha, well I think there are varying levels in the people I talk with
doppler: I also have connections to some people who work on lisp machine restoration
doppler: I think I found your website through some ancient HN post
doppler: I guess most notably, asciilifeform
doppler: I was drawn in by the computer-related discussions I have seen from some of the users here
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1631203 << Hey, I just replaced coolant hoses on car. Destroyed old leaky plastic "quick connect" fittings with screwdriver since they embrittled to become "always connected". Replaced them with thermoplastic heat shrink clamps. ☝︎
asciilifeform: which, i suspect, is why they got lizarded away. 'they' don't want cheap radhard cpu, rom.
mircea_popescu: hey, i know your entire life is dedicated to the proposition that geting 10% better at doing math is worth losing out 50% on salesmanship.
asciilifeform: say why i ought to be interested in anything other than the height of the plank.
mircea_popescu: i doubt this very much.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 15:31 asciilifeform: 'well ~i~! know now that i'm not an acorn. but do THE SQUIRRELS know??????'
asciilifeform: i thought mircea_popescu was of the notion that you don't need economy of mass to do si fab.
mircea_popescu: them of the "Why should i do it right when i could do it easy" church.
asciilifeform: 'if i had a ' hamme^H^H^H^H^Hfab, i'd start with very humble things, like... rom.
mircea_popescu: i thought i was just being paranoid.
phf: speaking of FUCKGOATS, project PITCHFORK? i still can't get over that one
asciilifeform: i ask, naively, for tech of 30 yrs ago to be available at some price point
asciilifeform: for instance, i wanted to make FUCKGOATS in otp. no dice.
asciilifeform: every couplea months i do an 'can haz otp rom?' and answer, as always, is 'nope', not at any price, simply not made in past 30 yrs.
asciilifeform: i did say 'rom', not 'flash'.
asciilifeform: phf: i wonder if anybody still makes ye olde xterminals
shinohai: I think our friend Preet was prosecuting that case iirc
phf: i tried doing that through the citrix client, no dice (back when i was working for a place tha tuses a citrix client)
phf: i think the argument was, you can't do aa with ttf unless you're composing client side.
asciilifeform: incidentally, i wonder if anybody's ever written a vnc worm.
phf: i think not-transfering-letter-shapes-over-wire is one of the most useful features of protocol. naturally was first one to get subverted
asciilifeform: i've lost track of all of the crackpot 'i can't believe it's not x11!'s.
asciilifeform: if i ever make the fpgaized thing, it sure as fuck won't bother trying to drive an lcd or eat keyboard, wtf, just speak x11. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i always thought this was one of the spiffiest things re the smbx boxes ☟︎
asciilifeform: aaah i was thinking of the traditional, rather than the x11istic, meanings, yes
phf: i'm confused. genera is client, unix is server means that genera is going to display itself in a window on a unix box. (client/server in xorg terminology)
asciilifeform: ( and do i misread, or is phf's setup the reverse of the usual one, where genera is the server, and unix box -- client ? )
asciilifeform: interesting ^ -- apparently x11 was not as standard as i thought
phf: i'm trying to figure out why genera's x client is crashing openbsd x server. but once i do i'll try the chip
phf: oh yeah, i forgot about it. i got distracted because my console is not here with me, so i spent some time setting up xorg/telnet/networking
pete_dushenski: i give up
asciilifeform: and i have literally that disk here, in the tray, 0 result.
asciilifeform: ( was where i ran out of stamina )
phf: i think the only thing i haven't tried yet is the stylus, which doesn't work if you just startx. i vaguely suspect there's a second mouse device i need to wire into the right place..
phf: i ended up running openbsd on that box
PeterL: asciilifeform: is your gentoo recipe published somewhere? I tried searching the logs, but all I found was an expired dpaste?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i don't even see any mention of g3 lappy on the vendor's www
asciilifeform: i tried same disk i used (successfully) in 'libretto 100ct', still 0 result.
pete_dushenski: powerbook g3 ? thought those were nifty as a kid but i was still on desktops at the time. brief foray into laptopery didn't come until college in 04
phf: pretty sure it won't, i even read a reason for it, but don't recall what it is anymore
asciilifeform: i tried five different ones, incl. compactflash adapters, no dice.
pete_dushenski: myea, that's next step for sure. was trying to configure dual boot for no other reason than that i like the idea of 10.4 in the house. but that's probably a lost cause. there's only so much time to dump into the sinkhole.
asciilifeform: i don't recall ever installing gentoo, for instance, any other way
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i've spent the last couple evenings since ppc thread re-emerged trying to run openbsd 6 on macppc. can't get the bloody machine to recognise cdrom OR usb. open firmware, boot screen, etc nada zilch zip.
asciilifeform: ( it'll be interesting , however, if i ever actually turn 'nqb' into something like a btctron, to see what it'll run on, with the programmable memory footprint and hard-realtime mechanics.. )
asciilifeform: nor have i any notion of why to try
mircea_popescu: tbh i have nfi how you could run trb in a vps. i don't think it's possible, not really. would be certainly quite the medal of merit on any software that can handle such. ☟︎
asciilifeform: what i meant was, text vs 'apps' or whatever other strange 'modern' crapola
asciilifeform: i also have a gb or so of pix.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1631052 << part of the problem is eg trilema has i dun recall how many gb of acumulated pix. though i've seen very hardcore text blogs and didn't look so bad. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 20:52 phf: ben_vulpes: i was thinking of wiring in an auto-upper for never seen accounts, but given the quality of ups.. i do wonder, if were to up them "faster" maybe they'll talk better