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danielpbarron: aren't there 3.6k coins found every day that need to find a new home or else a miner can't pay his electricity bill?
asciilifeform: only siphons off demand unless, e.g., draper, was actually going to buy at public exchanges and then didn't
mike_c: the auctions are siphoning off demand that could otherwise show up on some exchange. and while the exchanges don't move in perfect tandem, they do move close unless something is wrong.
asciilifeform: if it doesn't happen there
asciilifeform: mike_c: i still don't get why somebody buying a parcel of $maxint btc would affect the price on, e.g., 'btc-e'
mike_c: price suppression doesn't mean they are selling fake coins, it would be the same if they were selling real coins.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: "Oh i received coins." with gun at head... << it isn't clear why this would lead to price drops at public exchanges, unless anticipatory sell-offs (which would be brief)
mike_c: seems there ought to be some reasonable blockchain evidence one way or the other. don't we know the ulbricht address in question? ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: afaik the only source of this hypothesis is mircea_popescu, who presumably has a clue, but understandably won't reveal source of said clue
mike_c: i understand the theory :) I don't get the basis. ☟︎
mike_c: There isn't much doubt that they took ulbricht's coins, right? ☟︎
thestringpuller: mike_c: they don't sell coins. they make you think they are selling coins.
mike_c: i don't quite get this theory that they aren't actually selling the coins.
asciilifeform: (tip: if anyone else has a 'liebert' ups, and replacing fan, don't throw out old one. you will need to snip&solder the connector.)
cazalla: DigitalCurrency (@DCCCertified) favorited one of your Tweets! <<< bwahaha they don't even follow the links to see what it is, just fav away for tities lol
adlai: it ain't a cryptoparty if nobody's having fundation
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-03-2015#1042884 << they don't want your usary scrip, isiscoin uses PoAu ☝︎
cazalla: can't say i'm keen to be the first aussie bitcoiner nailed to the cross for simply mentioning bitcoin and ISIS in the same sentence though..
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would people do this. doesn't it stand to reason it's interesting now ? why delete it ?
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punkman: gribble doesn't like buttstamp anymore?
danielpbarron: Funny how not long it takes the Christian to start a holy war upon the poor Arab! << LOL, I honestly didn't even consider his ethnicity; I have a /stab alias for when people annoy me
artifexd: While interesting, that doesn't affect gossipd because I'm using lower level networking.
artifexd: But, I do get pinged if my name shows up and I don't want y'all to think it has been forgotten.
asciilifeform: (my hypothesis, simple: because eth. isn't alive and cannot be killed by shooting in the head. like 'redphone' and 'silent circle')
mircea_popescu: holy shit 2k lines that aren't your own are hard as fucking coffin nails
asciilifeform: (common lisp has a standard-cum-rationale and it isn't quite as deliciously readable)
danielpbarron: don't take my word for it, sort of thing
danielpbarron: the reason i didn't clarify at the time was that i kinda hope he does go and write a LTBarticle about this place and get himself banned from "the community"
BingoBoingo wonders why USG won't consider cost effective ISIS solutions
mircea_popescu: artifexd ^ i would hope you won't have that problem ? :D
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2015 19:53:30; assbot: I just realized /hashtag/golang?src=hash's "go get" falls back to HTTP when HTTPS fails ☹ /hashtag/RussianRouletteSoftwareDistribution?src=hash /hashtag/CurlPipeSudoBash?src=hash /hashtag/yolo?src=hash /E_I_T
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2015#1041934 o.O didn't know petey's fluent in russians. ☝︎
decimation: asciilifeform: if they are gentlemen scholars they don't seem to publish in english
asciilifeform: dubai (his claimed home) is an interesting place. haven't had to go there myself yet, but have a friend who regularly visits. has stories
asciilifeform refrains from going into deep tangent re: how iran may well have joined euro camp rather than descending into strange if it hadn't been spat upon as 'eastern monkeys' when tried
BingoBoingo: And if it wasn't for Moxenslit I wouls have been 1400 less words last month, but eulogy
mircea_popescu: !t m s.mpoe
BingoBoingo: Was bored, but at least he wasn't on a boat which was his greatest fear as a marine
mircea_popescu: !t m s.qntr
BingoBoingo maybe surprisingly would still be willing to carry a rifle to tikrit in USia's name. Just since USia didn't accept my flirtations last time if they take me this time I want to pick the rifle.
decimation: although I don't know how one could find a history that isn't wrapped in progressive bullshit
mircea_popescu: decimation afaik he wasn't there.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, they're too stupid to understand it, for another they don't speak the language, for the third they imagine they have political judgements to make.
decimation: that didn't work out very well
decimation: didn't Carnegie, Rockefeller, et. al. bail out us banks from their personal accounts?
mircea_popescu: the buffett-rich, the people who are not merely willing to go on the record stating "i am representative of richness, i couldn't exist outside of usg, therefore usg is EVERYTHING", but actually believe it.
mircea_popescu: tons of things "legal if you have a license we aren't issuing because we're at liberty to do this."
asciilifeform: picture if usg tomorrow said 'we don't care, go buy a cannon if you want, like it's 1780 again'
asciilifeform is an armchair general only, but doesn't see the military advantage of usg against subjects as consisting solely or even largely of superior small arms. what, rebel army won't break the law against modifying trigger of semi weapons to auto? rather, advantage of usg is same as in the time of hammurabi - soldiers are fed by the palace so they needn't 'waste' time on honest work; are resupplied so they needn't look for what
decimation: mircea_popescu: didn't you make the point about how the guns we are allowed to keep are of little threat to usg anyway?
decimation: so I don't think he's serious. although the idea of milling your own 'm-4gery' out of an '80%' receiver is a neat one
asciilifeform: it isn't the national post
asciilifeform: '3d printer', for those unfamiliar, is a very costly item. i don't even keep one here, can't justify
asciilifeform: (not much seen in reality, due to shockwaves, but doesn't keep aficionados from trying)
mircea_popescu: i used to know poor people like that. all the things they couldn't afford, they didn't do not because they couldn't afford them
mircea_popescu: tbh, that is the only logical end game : US of Best Korea, where everything is banned not because they can't afford anything, but for Ideological Reasons. Honest.
mircea_popescu: isn't cody wilson the guy with that blog, what was it called
decimation: the irs says you can't live in it until you retire, but you can rent it out
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Mac10's caliber is recognized now as sub pistol, .380 ACP isn't beating a single sheet of kevlar
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Isn't it beautiful?
thestringpuller: ada isn't so bad. dunno why people are complaining...
asciilifeform isn't yet aware of any secondary/tertiary derpologists having suckerfished on to this subject - but who knows
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: long story : traditionally, "int" means a word... << obtain, from purely historical interest, if you don't already own it, k&r 1st ed. good tour of the weirdo word (and byte!) sizes on the archs of the day. predecessor 'B' was 'typeless' (all things are machine-word width) and this was not uncommon then
mircea_popescu: and as to limited recourse, it can be limited whatever way. generally it is, "lend me this money to buy this house, i pay you so and so, and if i don't you keep the house."
mircea_popescu: this is the sort of thing. the professional has no interest in leaving their current place just because i want to relocate them, and the situation isn't feudal, where i just order them moved.
mircea_popescu: let's work a model. suppose i own 85`000 square footage of marble flooring, used for running a harem. suppose i come to the conclusion my harem doesn't attract good / numerous enough cuntage. suppose i decide this is because there's no belly dancing happening. suppose i go to a belly dancer in city and say, listen, i'll loan you 10k golden pistoons if you start a belly dancing school on my marlbe acreage.
ryan-c: ben_vulpes: I don't think so. I'm not Ryan X Charles.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2015#1041515 << technically foundation wasn't born yet. so no, it's better custodianship of the bitcoin codebase than the fake foundation has been displaying. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform payer can't keep going and stop paying.
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu is right re: earlier observation that the mega-bubble didn't seem to kill anyone
mircea_popescu: (which is why i won't take a mortgage deal that has recourse past the item bought, nor would any sane businessman. yet usian idiot consumers regularly do, because hey. they've come to expectorate.)
mircea_popescu: actual bitcoin companies, such as for instance listed on mpex, generally don't have the problem.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller these things aren't related. bitcoin has been fine for credit for years. idiots aren't or ever will be ready for life.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: then in that case entire meatspace family is in servitude? wasn't this a thing in history? Can't repay debt so X generation of people are slaves?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: what somebody's worth as a slave is still a finite sum, that isn't especially difficult to come up with (ask the romans)
asciilifeform: (you lose 1btc because poor schmuck couldn't come up the the ten sets of organs, only one, and you lost most of what you lent him)
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: repay with your life? (not in sense of deadmen don't pay, but contractual servitude)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i don't have credit cards << do you deal with credit at all (i.e. loc)?
mircea_popescu: sadly i don't have credit cards, as i don't subscribe to open liability deals. but i wonder what the original texts say
asciilifeform: PeterL: it's ugly as sin, and originally usg-promulgated, but that doesn't change the facts.
PeterL: asciilifeform: you don't like golang?
assbot: I just realized /hashtag/golang?src=hash's "go get" falls back to HTTP when HTTPS fails ☹ /hashtag/RussianRouletteSoftwareDistribution?src=hash /hashtag/CurlPipeSudoBash?src=hash /hashtag/yolo?src=hash /E_I_T ☟︎
ben_vulpes: sjsqd: also, don't poison the well against yourself.
BingoBoingo: sjsqd: Just don't burn too much time on conversation here before you get to understanding a large part of the *why* the (dot)foundation does things as peculiarly as they do. A good amount of history there.
pete_dushenski: i hadn't quite appreciated the size of the undertaking when i started
danielpbarron: you don't consider qntra; qntra considers you.
ben_vulpes: <sjsqd> I understand the idea of bitcoin universes << what you don't seem to understand is that there are separate WoTs in action.
sjsqd: I don't think anyone has to read my articles or consider my viewpoint, its just my way of writing about the foundation
sjsqd: I don't spam my article URLs or anything like that (I provided it here because it was relevant to show what I was writing)
sjsqd: although windows isn't the absolute best solution for computer security
danielpbarron: well you can't bring your cash across borders
sjsqd: danielpbarron:I wouldn't buy them just yet because cash still works just as well
danielpbarron: this ties into the "don't buy groceries with bitcoin" thing
sjsqd: of course I didn't get any cash
PeterL: sjsqd: important stuff shows up on qntra.net if you don't want to wade through the logs
sjsqd: jurov:wouldn't surprise me
sjsqd: to find out what is happening with bitcoin or xyz altcoin it isn't important to read through thousands of pages
thestringpuller: sjsqd: this doesn't work.
thestringpuller: sjsqd: this is akin to someone pretending to be involved in history and but didn't read any history books.