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ascii_field: mircea_popescu: also because the relevant tech simply did not mature
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if only.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field get out. by the time oil was a central commodity to civilisation for fifty years, it was trivial to get an engine deployed to spec. TO SPEC!!!11
ascii_field: 'I'm positively _delighted_ that I can buy consumer products so cheaply and so conveniently, but -- get this -- I'm not in the business of making microwave ovens or wine glasses or books or speakers, but I _do_ expect those who _are_ to have professional tools, so I can buy consumer goods inexpensively with moderately high quality. I don't _want_ Joe Blows' Homemade Microwave Oven, OK?'
n6: ascii_field: The only way to get that for OS X is to build from source using https://www.gnupg.org/download/ ?
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/3VRBYWJ << lulzy
n6: ascii_field: tried to import your key to just to test and get http://dpaste.com/3VRBYWJ
n6: ascii_field: How do I check his key here? Only see yours.
n6: ascii_field: yea this gentoo thing has me under a lot of pressure, working on going down a more sane path today. Homework first then attack the problem, last few days tried attacking first and it hasnt worked out.
n6: ascii_field: why should I check both sigs here, and how?
phf: gernika: can you also give me a log of $(eulora_brew --prefix eulora)/euclient.app/Contents/MacOS/euclient > euclient-run.log 2>&1
phf: !up ascii_field
n6: ascii_field: I want to build gentoo using a x86 but for an armv7a, using something like distcc? would that make the builds DETERMINISTIC since everything you would need would be included?
shinohai: Something like that, though I still can't make cross-compilation work. I'm not the wizard ascii_field is.
n6: ascii_field: we talked about DETERMINISTIC builds the other day would that be somehting like Distcc too on gentoo where you can build something on x86 for arm?
shinohai: ascii_field: mod6 and I having an unusual bug on Ubuntu 14.04 http://dpaste.com/1PCQ44J.txt
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 14:35:19; funkenstein_: The full orchestra! :) Fedora-20-x64
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233251 << congrats funkenstein_ ! ☝︎
shinohai: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/man-shot-by-police-in-ferguson-after-he-fired-at/article_baaf86fd-2de0-53a7-b840-1941159aa5c7.html http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/two-teens-walking-near-michael-brown-memorial-wounded-in-ferguson/article_5856e193-045f-5bf7-80c9-e0a96c621baf.html
shinohai: http://40.media.tumblr.com/5c7beee60375c2c2f0557414fd61e1cc/tumblr_myzddryn2l1ritdbzo1_500.png
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 01:34:01; mircea_popescu: is it just me or is trilema actually the 4th result for pay for your tits
shinohai: !up TRS80_
wilbns: mircea_popescu: it just seemed like something was/is a bit strange about the whole ordeal
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 01:34:01; mircea_popescu: is it just me or is trilema actually the 4th result for pay for your tits
mod6: Meanwhile, I can offer you a script that I use to patch up through maxint_locks_corrected from v0.5.3.1 -- it's not a guide, but if you read the steps, it's what needs to happen and in what order. The new (forthcoming) guide will be based on these steps: http://dpaste.com/0YVSD6Q.txt
phf: gernika, ben_vulpes: new patch, 7129357156859d81c987e210d26ba552fdc49350
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.dbit.1:f9c0e65452e21e9f222864a8a209c03aa4eb166fdcc2e374893948aae2f71014
phf: ben_vulpes: one sec, i almost pushed another patch
dbit: mircea_popescu, ok I got registered
hanbot: i think ben_vulpes' thingy was solely for dependencies + release, sans patching, could be wrong.
asciilifeform: unless the automatic script created by ben_vulpes is one
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i happen to regard the alarm clock as the single most destructively irritating thing in my entire existence
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 03:00:47; mircea_popescu: would you have wriutten the same sorter without him ?
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 03:02:39; mircea_popescu: management can also be understood as creation of proper schelling points
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233014 and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233009 then 'management' and 'programming skill' are entirely one and the same thing in that field. ☝︎☝︎
assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
dbit: mircea_popescu, can I have a Eulora account?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: eulora, conceivably, but i don't know enough about how it was built, and precisely by whom, and to what kind of outcome, to say anything interesting
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can't speak for other distros, but the magic moment of gentoo beginning its slide into hitler's bunker is often said to be the time when the lead programmer went to work for microshit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: or like brezhnev's 'communism is coming in 1980'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for reference, samet was/is one of the maybe six sane and respectable profs in that dept
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no. the 90%
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this used to be sop
phf: mircea_popescu: there's an internal conflict resolution body, which essentially mirrors us court system. when i had some issues with the school, i was immediately advised to higher a lawyer by every random student i talked to about it
asciilifeform: btw, iirc mircea_popescu once asked why dijkstra is not taught in american schools. the reason is not a secret: he openly taught that fewer people have any business programming computer than performing surgery
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: '...not unlike the idea that there can exist "professional code" or professional defecation. Get over it, everyone's doing it anyway.' << i've said before, and will say again: this not-unfounded notion is not a neutral observation, but a normative; and for so long as folks expect a steaming heap of shit on their plates, that is what will be served for dinner.
phf: ben_vulpes, gernika: i just pushed another version. see if "pf/homebrew-eulora" is in brew update results. also it /should/ now use gcc-4.6 but who the fuck knows. rebuild if don't mind spending electricity, i'll continue reading homebrew source code
phf: ben_vulpes: have you been brew update'ing? i'm looking at the latest log and it looks like an older version of a script. `git -C $(brew --repository)/Library/Taps/pf/homebrew-eulora log|head -1|awk '{print $2}'` should return ce6d58194e2371ac9d4295e3a9a336fe6e44c548
phf: this is sort of like redefining Object.toString or object.__str__
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-08-2015#1232838 << and when i tell mircea_popescu 'they own the backbone', he laughs ☝︎☟︎
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> after much derping, i have a rotor-built stator bitcoind << heeey! neat. :]
shinohai: gg ben_vulpes
phf: ben_vulpes: os x?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes explain ye ?
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 14:35:50; mircea_popescu: it's almost as if he respects the scholar and despises the whore^H^H^H^H i mean programmer
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall your observation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229166 ? i often have problems naming something that i strongly feel doesn't deserve a name ☝︎
trinque: ben_vulpes: bash --be-sane
trinque: ben_vulpes: I dunno what x and u do
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: let'em come here and name then.
trinque: ben_vulpes: is that db saying that?
assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
phf: xach.com/rpw3/articles/TJadnRSn8I_o8qHZ4p2dnA%40speakeasy.net.html and http://xach.com/rpw3/articles/PqOdndt5Kr6E9BnUnZ2dnUVZ_juWnZ2d%40speakeasy.net.html (there's probably more, but it's worthwhile to read through those)
phf: williamdunne: rob warnock has a series of posts on how to use lisp effectively even if you don't have emacs running, i often find it a reasonable path for lisp novices, particularly when you don't want the complexity of emacs to get in the way of early explorations. http://xach.com/rpw3/articles/BJqdnd9R65ee3qDbnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d%40speakeasy.net.html, http://xach.com/rpw3/articles/PJudnYz2hfC-HQbYnZ2dnUVZ_ternZ2d%40speakeasy.net.html, http://
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: does it ~work~ ?
williamdunne: ben_vulpes: Horrendous, currently just doing (load "some/path/file.lisp")
trinque: http://clhs.lisp.se/Body/f_wr_pr.htm
asciilifeform: and before mircea_popescu chimes in and says 'find old hardware', let's see him booting from a floppy
asciilifeform: give it to mircea_popescu, i think he was having problems coming up with a gentoo
shinohai: ^_______________^
mod6: asciilifeform: any idea on funkenstein_'s error? maybe no build-essentials?
ben_vulpes: <ben_vulpes> will now have to throw everything out and recompile buildroot, no?<< so then yes
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the 1) binaries 2) headers which magick into existence when buildroot is built
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: my root dir contains: buildroot-2015.05 stator toolchain
jurov: mircea_popescu: pls to mpex
mod6: funkenstein_: ok this is a new one for me. what are the detalis: debian 8, x86-64... ok. is this with the rotor/stator hand build from ascii's guide with tea? or my thing I just posted a bit a go rotor-TEST2.sh?
shinohai: Suddenly, Ethereum is not ready yet: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3gd2sp/ethereum_is_on_sale_yall/ctx4xt3
mod6: last reminder to all who are following along: TEST2 is patched up through maxint_locks_corrected
mod6: remember when jurov was mad at me because i put everything underneath of v0_5_3_1/ instead of just being what it was.
mod6: ;;later tell pete_dushenski I have a script for you to try on Debian 7 to build TEST2 with rotor. You might need to install a few minor pre-reqs. I can hold your hand if required for that part. Let me know when you have some time.
mod6: If someone wants to give it a try on x86_64 on a similar linux let me know. I've had to install a few pre-reqs on a totally bare minimum 10.04 like: build-essentials, curl, rsync, and unzip
mod6: So Shinohai and I just got done testing my TEST2 bundle with rotor script. We've built successfully on: Gentoo/glibc, Ubuntu 10.04, Debian 6 and Debian 8 :: All x86_64
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 16:21:23; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu seems like 'nearlyfreespeech co.' takes btc now..
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/SnUhZRR << remember them ?
ag3nt_zer0: love this one too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tqh6_e_X5s&list=PL352CGbOeT0nNizlUz7K1gJ1o39__xP1G
mircea_popescu: in other new, pervyleague http://41.media.tumblr.com/0a9640ea2d4186797493a3d96d0fd5ff/tumblr_nk4fke8iic1tqyeivo1_1280.jpg
shinohai: This kid is great at tap guitar too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_dA_iFPeRw
shinohai: This guy is insane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSY9N_J5RUU
shinohai: ag3nt_zer0: you like neo-classical guitar too?
n6: I hate to ask for support in here again but gave up on lsub idea and reinstalled, now I can't get wireless working at all using cli, tried setting up a conf file becuase wpa_cli woudln't connect with wpa_supplicant but that didnt work. at a loss for where to go next on my quest for a source based distro.
shinohai thanks ag3nt_zer0 for the fine music selection ...
asciilifeform: and i saw a curio that mircea_popescu might appreciate. the largest textbook shop was demolished and replaced with a kind of 'convenience store'. i went in, and saw that approximately 1/3 of the floor space was for menstrual products; a third - for condoms; and most of a third - for gurl phashion paraphernalia. (the small change remaining - iPnohe cabling, etc.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way it works, is that nsf (usg direct) provided truck full of money. umd is just one of the bordellos with which this heap purchased whores
mircea_popescu: cynthia_johnson@agilent.com
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 5.1.3 is lulzy
mircea_popescu: http://36.media.tumblr.com/bd2de1675743ceef8e270f91abcd9a99/tumblr_nnjacww45d1tqyeivo1_1280.jpg << like the first good one.
asciilifeform: http://fare.tunes.org/computing/reclaim_your_computer.html << turns out fare has some decent material
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i must point out that this is only applicable to agricultural tribes. chechens and other migratories - not so! alpha leaves. raiding party.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mircea_popescu doesn't give a shit about that.
assbot: Logged on 09-08-2015 14:08:56; mircea_popescu: how come the us schmucks ranting on about their endless and universal jurisdiction over everything to the degree that they seek the extradition of random people derping on the internet have yet failed to seek the extradition of the i dunno, 10k or whatever pakis from england that did the child porn one better ?