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mircea_popescu:
<PeterL> maybe only allow people to koin until all properties sold?
<< maybe simply allow people to sell out their token
ben_vulpes:
<PeterL> [] could you make a version of monopoly which allows people to drop in after the game has started?
<< bitcoin monopoly?!
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> [] "arbitrary access to transactions in the chain is not allowed to avoid having clients start to depend on nodes having full transaction indexes"
<< there has to be more to this story.
<< pointless degradation of network protocol to reduce utility of bitcoin.
PeterL: "since no sessions, bot can be used without the need for you being present on any channel"
< it should say you need to be in chan to get voiced
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: anyway, it could easily be self-financing
<< only if lots of games are available over time. vis-a-vis crypto-arcade/midway but meh dunno. Long road is long :P
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: something simple like playbot, i want to play chess
<< already pretty much done with this in GPG. Needs to be vetted thoroughly tho before any widespread release
BingoBoingo:
<mircea_popescu> "arbitrary access to transactions in the chain is not allowed to avoid having clients start to depend on nodes having full transaction indexes"
<< there has to be more to this story
<< Prolly related to post 0.8.x versions not keeping a full txindex by default. Have to set a flag for them to do it.
PeterL: xanthyos:i'd like to play monopoly with #b-a members if we could figure out a place to do the dice
<< scoopbot started as a bot to roll dice for me and my friend RPGing over IRC
mircea_popescu: "arbitrary access to transactions in the chain is not allowed to avoid having clients start to depend on nodes having full transaction indexes"
<< there has to be more to this story.
mircea_popescu: undata: davout: probably go, the bot I'm working with is in go
<< i bet you had no idea just how popular golang is, eh asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: hey whose idea was it to prevent the network from relaying transactions outside of the context of blocks and was it really that good of an idea?
<< i think it's rudimentary spam control.
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> [] if the fashion looks like it doesn't have the steam, backlash prevails.
<< i wonder if Apple has the steel to pull off their watch play.
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin 0.8.5 or later is required
<< apparently p2pool is asshats.
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> [] ben_vulpes so why not bring mom here ?
<< well now she's full-bore communist. notrly good company for the asshats.
mod6:
<+mircea_popescu> mod6 actually this would be a good datapoint to compute. find out the sum total of orphans to date.
<< noted. will see what I can come up with.
mircea_popescu: jurov: i should prolly make a bot
<< it's been up to date ?
mod6:
<+mircea_popescu> mod6: so we /might/ need to add something similar... but im not positive that this is actually the issue yet.
<< i don't see how concurrent chains would cause memory outages.
<< well, there is a container that holds these orphan blocks unchecked in v0.5.3. if this actually is related to the R.I. chewing through all its ram, perhaps a limit should be introduced.
mircea_popescu: jurov: regardless of if it is the case, is it feasible ddos scenario to generate lots of orphans for old blocks?
<< yes.
mircea_popescu: mod6: so we /might/ need to add something similar... but im not positive that this is actually the issue yet.
<< i don't see how concurrent chains would cause memory outages.
mircea_popescu: Adlai: he's still here, paybase/hashnest logo everywhere, giving out free polo shirts at their booth, kickoff party had a giant paybase logo on the side of the hotel
<< because "advertisin fixes everything" "we're creating awareness".
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: TomServo: care to play monopoly? we can use our own boards and everyone gets to be the car
<< i always play the hat!
Adlai: all you need's a mirror neh ?
<< but then your selfie immortalizes you a glasshole
mircea_popescu: Zarathul: I'm developing a lightweight MMORPG with crypto economy. and I'm looking for some feedback and alpha testers
<< ever heard of s.mg ? also, iirc DreadKnight is doing something similar.
mircea_popescu: *: Adlai actually got to use it once, since it's useless for selfies, which the glasshole required
<< all you need's a mirror neh ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: so basically when breaking the law, just claim that it's "art"
<< you will notice that they merely bought random items. this illustrates the solid point that the notion that buying items can be made illegal implies buying itself was made illegal, through this randomness device.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: microsoft_moves_major_projects_to_github/
<< heh. github as-is is actually precisely fit for microsoft.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: what are you running, windows on ferrari?
<< bwahahaha these two. should be cuffed together, endrunkened to 115% and dropped on a sound stage.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: "not until you've murdered your romans and finished your greens, benny"
<< hahahaha
mod6: we do know that it must be
< 1Mb
kakobrekla: garza's talk got cancelled
< scammer decided not to scam? what a scammer.
ben_vulpes: fluffypony: "It will be so worth it,” enthuses Uhlenhuth.
<< downright lovecraftian, this
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> [] i give you even money she's contributing to open source projects, doing his/their substitutions.
<< "she"?
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> [] "apple is not a technology, apple is a vision"
<< oh jesus 51% sent me a bill to review in apple's proprietary spreadsheet format today
ben_vulpes: * asciilifeform [] has never worn or so much as touched a hat made from a rarer animal than rabbit
<< i cap out at elk
ben_vulpes:
<Adlai> [] maybe you should've called it cssipd
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> [] Adlai that's the idea. looky here : gribble/wot was created a few years ago,. when btc was worth nothing and nobody bothered distinguishing between taaki and gavin.
<< oh we're distinguishing between taaki and gavin nao
ben_vulpes:
<asciilifeform> [] not without seven oceans' worth of parallelconstructiony-plausibledeniability
<< what was that apocryphal "nazi" dropped out of the plain with "papers" again?
pete_dushenski: considered leftist perversions, without entitlement to social protection of any kind."
<< i can't make this shit up
ben_vulpes:
<assbot> [] Venture Capital investment in Silicon Valley hits dot-com boom levels • The Register ... (
http://bit.ly/1IQpMME )
<< task for eager student: calculate ROI for each VC firm based on known investments and exits
mircea_popescu: undata: because terrorists can't find an old copy of gpg?
<< gun laws aren't predicated on the theory that criminals can't find a gun.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: original pgp was not an apparatus for one-off deals with strangers, but something to use between friends, as i understand.
<< what you say is accurate, but doesn't excuse. suppose i knock up a girl, and the blastule in her folds goes "hey, daddy's cock was crooked, so let's make the baby's cunt crooked too. nothing like baking in random assumptionbs for no good reason!"
mircea_popescu: davout: "Implementations SHOULD NOT assume that Key IDs are unique", so let's just include that in the signature packet. derp
<< no, seriously.
hanbot:
<mircea_popescu> i wasn't probably ever cing to get it.
<< you fucks, in five years nobody's going to be able to read the logs who hasn't been here for six lol
mircea_popescu: davout: Apocalyptic: RFC 5.2.2 sez a signature packet contains "Eight-octet Key ID of signer"
<< seriously in shock/denial about this.
mircea_popescu:
<PeterL> I don't suppose people pass keys down to their heirs?
<< people well might.
Apocalyptic:
<undata> keeps it from being filled with useless crud with invalid sigs
<< this sounds pretty reasonable
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: the point is MAPPING is bad
<< he understands.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: keyids are evil
<< yeh davout. stop thinking about short keyids bs.
ben_vulpes:
<kakobrekla> [] fuckin key party and assumption of socialization
<< another kakobrekla line worth reposting
davout: it still boils down to a fpr
<-> keyid mapping tho, not that this is evil _for this particular purpose_ but still
davout: undata: "the wot is an excellent tool for making good decisions about establishing those"
<<< sure, but i'm not sure why the notarization *tool* would enforce that, i defo don't feel strongly enough about it to argue the point either way
davout: Apocalyptic: "you have to validate the sig"
<<< no i don't think so
davout: "replace keyid with fp ?"
<<< sure, but how do i get the fpr from a signed message? gpg -v -v will just return the key id
davout: kakobrekla: "nfi why nano keeps keyid field in his db"
<<< if you keep the fingerprint you're automatically keeping the key id as far as i understand since the key id is simply the second half of the fpr
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> danielpbarron: make sense?
<< yes, that's what that is.
ben_vulpes:
<danielpbarron> i tried to make a raw tx once, got rejected by my own node for having too small a fee
<< heinous
ben_vulpes: "whole blockchain"
<< and more specifically, a trivial lookup of txids
PeterL: so, if somebody has
< 1 L2 rating, they don't get voice? or it just has to be > 0?
mircea_popescu: decimation: there's a deep hypocrisy here somewhere. apparently the usg entities who are involved with foreign surveillance couldn't possibly do their jobs if they were subject to 'regulation', but of course regular people trying to say, transact bitcoin, have no such reprieve
<< well, usg entities that deal in bitcoin do have such reprieve currently ?
mircea_popescu:
<kakobrekla> how does it simplify ?
<< dja see what i mean ?