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Framedragger: granted, phuctor gets crawled *more* / *a lot* (i presume, from what you had been telling). so i understand the incredulity of "you haven't heard?!!"
asciilifeform: Framedragger: i wrote to, e.g., bernstein, more than once.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ok i've read it; so your chief issue is that they didn't mention phuctor in-between the initial 2012 study and the 2016 years correct? i mean, bear with me, i'm not baiting.
Framedragger: okay i think i know how trinque feels when being side-dragged into non sequiturs.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger what was discussed in developer meetings long ago ? "dude wouldn't irt be cool if i invented flight ???"
Framedragger: how about "was discussed in developer meetings *long ago*" (the counter will be "you didn't tell us then so FU", so w/e i guess.)
mircea_popescu: i guess we send email.
mircea_popescu: and in ib, i expect the correct indexing will still be block height . tx index.
asciilifeform: i can only describe the known cuts here. it's this, or live with no-sane-index and geometric-grinds-to-a-halt.
asciilifeform: i propose a declaration of 'tx replacement is an attack against sane bitcoin and whoever does it, is the forker, and not us, who thereafter ban it in trb and subsequent proggies.'
asciilifeform: thing is, there is NO sane (i.e. o(1)) way to index without demanding unique global txid. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this is an artefact of ancient idiocy, but what can i say.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aah i was looking at output, you have he input , yes
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 13:18 asciilifeform: is what i see in there
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 13:16 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i misstated. it spends bitcoin (from a4bfa8ab6435ae5f25dae9d89e4eb67dfa94283ca751f393c1ddc5a837bbc31b ) for which purpose it needs the genesis block hash
mircea_popescu: god i'm going to have to delve into the whole pile of ancient history
asciilifeform: is what i see in there ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i remember the 'stoned' lul
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i misstated. it spends bitcoin (from a4bfa8ab6435ae5f25dae9d89e4eb67dfa94283ca751f393c1ddc5a837bbc31b ) for which purpose it needs the genesis block hash ☟︎
mircea_popescu: shinohai i have nfi what that is but anyway.
shinohai: Lel, I finally got around to checking that tardstalk thread mircea_popescu, re: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1837136.msg18367669#msg18367669
mircea_popescu: i somehow don't believe that thing actually works as long term archiving anymore.
shinohai: Whether it be Aunt Jemimah or Anti-Semitic Russians, long as I get mine.
shinohai: I have met camgirls that play on this reparations thing ...gotta make dem white bois squeal
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes | in other ICE news, i got the drift slut sideways a few nights ago! << nice! i'm guessing this was on pavement but have you tried gravel drifting ? (it's a ton of fun and the lowest speed way to practise left-foot-braking)
ben_vulpes: in other ICE news, i got the drift slut sideways a few nights ago!
ben_vulpes: i never really figured out how one was supposed to shift while turning with paddles
shinohai: There is a Mexican lady here that makes best damned queso blanco I've ever had. I've already stocked up on like 3 wheels of it.
mircea_popescu: i don't think it's anything specifically.
shinohai: Nice ben_vulpes I like a classic
ben_vulpes: that's it i'm out
shinohai: I like #2 best
mircea_popescu: i c
ben_vulpes: mustang i think
ben_vulpes: well the joke is that there are tits on display and i'm looking at the vin
ben_vulpes: in over-fucking-polished-and-is-that-a-vin-i-see's: http://its-about-the-car.tumblr.com/image/159185818055
ben_vulpes: well if we're doing themes, i have my own set queued up
ben_vulpes: yeah i have nfi in re proper prostitutes
ben_vulpes: i register no objections
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i dunno how much you partake of whores, but 50yos usually have to be special ordered.
ben_vulpes: there is also some tiny arbitrage opportunity available i must point out; lock up the contract and then sell her off into improper slavery
shinohai: I suppose there was a shortage of youger, more nubile slaves in that particular region of Latin America.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, i take a while to rev up
a111: Logged on 2017-02-28 17:47 mircea_popescu: honestly i kinda lost interest once it was about shithead news.
shinohai: I love this one "Hackernews wants it to use TLS, the better to paste passwords into it without feeling bad."
mircea_popescu: Maximum Hackernews is achieved as the sentence "I am too stupid to understand the context of academic research" is expressed as "now if you implemented this as a web app, i'd be sharing it with everybody"
shinohai: If it was a real girl they'd have to settle for someone like covertress I imagine.
mircea_popescu: shit, i got nothing to add!
shinohai: I imagine its stock photo meself
mircea_popescu: i dunno, krill at mit in the 80s.
asciilifeform: i thought it was a 'sack race'
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i do it occasionally myself.
Framedragger: incidentally did eat canonical eng breakfast this morning; i should re-evaluate my life
mircea_popescu: i hope latest trilema didn't push you to drink.
mircea_popescu: well i never read n-gate
ben_vulpes: fuck, buddy, i didn't think it could get worse!
shinohai: I have little faith they'll ever actually get a working product, rootstock has been endless blather on reddit for well over a year.
mircea_popescu: hey, cluj had great tap water when i was a wee tyke.
ben_vulpes: i do miss one thing about my hometown; bull run reservoir produces un-fucking-matched agua
mircea_popescu: and now i shall leave you for a typical mp ritual, whereby i line up all the shot glasses in the house, fill each with a different kind of mineral water and make the rules that'll dominate purchasing henceforth. brb.
mircea_popescu: or at the club, i suppose.
ben_vulpes: so i read a bit about datura, "moonflower, that sounds familiar...hey baby aren't you doing something with moonflower in the backyard this year?" "yeah! it's going to be beautiful" "..." "is this about how daturas are poisonous?" "..." "it's going in on the carport where dog and child can't get to it"
mircea_popescu: i was just idly following the sign up thread.
asciilifeform: oh i remember this
mircea_popescu: so i break one off, smell it, handle it, we arrive at the coffee house, i put it into one of the water cups they serve with coffee. meet local girl, ask her if she knows what this beautiful flower is, she does not.
phf: that's not what i signed up for when i was born
asciilifeform: 'hey i signed up for jumping under tanks, not for into volcano'
mircea_popescu: what was i gonna say, "i know this guy, something-life-form" ?
mircea_popescu: the funny part is that i suspect it's entirely lost on her as of yet who's gonna be tasting them.
mircea_popescu: "no hon. i'm not the right age for self-testing anymore. that's more of a 16yo thing."
mircea_popescu: in related story : i was walking with girl yesterday among this beautiful townlet. off one fence, an explosive arbust sent its POISON RED flowers. i examined it because curious, and decided it's actually some kind of cherry tree ?!?! right leaves, right petals except for the color, everything.
trinque: really mircea_popescu already did. "I lost a man using Debian machines today." not only do you know something about Debian, you know something about where he was. maybe not as much as you'd like, but you have some coordinates, and more importantly, if you don't suck, *you* aren't dead
mircea_popescu: i will say, people tend to be amazed at what can fit in a head once proper trees are constructed for the fitting.
mircea_popescu: yes, but i played heroes while they did that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu when you were a kid, did the local boys also do the 'well ~i'll~ X' 'battle of wits' thing ? 'tomorrow i'll bring a TANK!' 'well ~i~ will bring antitank gun!' '~i~ will bring battleship!'
a111: Logged on 2017-03-31 18:09 mircea_popescu: actually i was thinking, im not going to hold another conference, because it's just not a sane opsec proposition. however, one fellow at a time coming down for a week or somesuch is more than tenable. what's airfare, fiddy bux ? pack up the missus an' come say hi.
asciilifeform: ^ asciilifeform: 'say a three megatonne bomb falls, you are 1km from ground zero' mircea_popescu: 'ha-HA! i wouldn't be caught dead near ground zero! foiled!'
mircea_popescu: for all you know i picked my primes by hand.
asciilifeform: alternatively, say i find that gpg only ever was able to generate 100,000,000 different keys.
mircea_popescu: we don't put pogos that way. if you recall, i wasn't for it then, either.
mircea_popescu: "spot check model doesn't mater, if there's phosgene in the air you're fucked" "yes, well, i think i might notice the phosgene. by you know, how the gals drop like flies."
mircea_popescu: but in practical terms, i don't check all the living space all the time. i check random spots at random times and if they're dirty somebody sleeps in a zebra costume. this method keeps the place well clean, and it's how management works. hence the discussion of genovese merchants etc.
phf: we were comming from the direction of debian on 10 cds though, so restating my original point: i think bootstrapping can be solved with counterparty as an alternative to fits in head, i.e. i don't mind an approach where in order to bootstrap i get a binary from l1, that i use as a rich subtrate from which i can bootstrap.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's mostly because we're thinking in yet not mutually understood terms.
phf: i think i see why we got on this thread. i was saying that bootstrapping is always a counterparty problem. i missed that that's not the case for fits in head (i think ascii might've tried pointing that out to me).
mircea_popescu: but to a large degree i can predict what the ailments of the women naked on the floor will be as time withers them.
mircea_popescu: i dunno it goes that far.
asciilifeform: i gotta object to the analogy with the egg and rotten kid. this is more like 'which of these children will get which type of cancer, and when.'
phf: i don't ~refuse~ it, i'm saying that differential approach is ~required~ because there's a problem. otherwise there'd be no need for an approach. i don't think it matters that approach is already presant for other purposes
mircea_popescu: i can judge whether an egg is rotten or not without being a hen myself. i can tell which kids aren't worth bothering with though i'm no mother "and i don't understand them like she does" etcetera.
mircea_popescu: where i tell two people to do the same thing and compare the results.
phf: i didn't understand previous sentence, so i refuse to be led down a path towards a trap :p
mircea_popescu: to try and resolve it : do you believe i could be a successful genovese merchant if i couldn't add ?
mircea_popescu: ok, but if you meant it in that sense i no longer see how it anticipates the very problem.
mircea_popescu: and i suspect this goes to (one of the) roots of the argument : it is not broadly speaking sane for person writing code to expect that he knows what compiler user will use to produce object or machine code.
mircea_popescu: yes, but this is not in reference to compilation. it's in reference to user space. i don't expect there's a magical function f, but that there's a plurality of f1..fi...fn, which can all be linear in principle.
phf: i think the word you used was "unary"
mircea_popescu: why is what i assume you mean by non-linear compilation presupposed ?
mircea_popescu: (i am not, for clarity, declaring he didn't anymore than i'm declaring he did. i personally dun gas.)
Framedragger: ^ (i mean the gnu port)