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mircea_popescu: * RUchamp_ (a2e354cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.162.227.84.203) has joined #bitcoin-assets << dear chan, since i've made that 0.1 btc for titties post, mind voicing new names off webchat for a while ?
decimation: it takes an hour to get downtown, stopping at every useless ghetto on the way
decimation: I found the metro to be generally useless
assbot: The One Fiber Optic Cable No One on the Dig for Tysons Rail Wants to Hit
decimation: yeah most cable companies "rent" the low wire on power poles
asciilifeform: and so people resist them.
asciilifeform: more complicated. the tree trimmers routinely cut fiber (likewise strung overhead)
decimation: there was another amusing example in the DC area a few years ago, after the "derecho" thunderstorm. power was out everywher - why? because none of the treehuggers would let the power-line clearances be maintained
asciilifeform: (usg likes to lay unmarked fiber for seekrit skvirrel use. what happens? it gets cut. as the recent case of a new branch of wash. dc metro)
decimation: it's quite enlightening to study the ownership path of the right-of-way deeds. One realizes that us infrastructure is pretty much like openssl: everyone knows it's a horrible pit, everyone uses it, no will to 'fix' it
decimation: they only reason the right-of-ways survived coherently is because utilities like power were still in use long after the railroads went bankrupt
assbot: WB&A Trail | Maryland Trails | TrailLink.com
asciilifeform: mostly from the (destroyed) trolley system from the first half of 20th c.
decimation: my own understanding of many of the 'trails' the DC area is that they were mostly railroad right-of-ways
decimation: there's not much "downhill" to be had
decimation: this is a big problem in the maryland/dc area because it's a swamp
asciilifeform: and one of these (electric pump) is built.
asciilifeform: sometimes, you'll encounter a structure that looks like this:
asciilifeform: walking trails in public parks here are, for various reasons, built on top of sewer mains (cheap right of way?)
asciilifeform: speaking of sewage, i recently had occasion to learn the details behind herr orlov's assertion that usa minus mains current will drown in own shit ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i dare say the folks who want to stick around to enjoy a hypothetical north american zimbabwe (usa minus mains current, sewer, water) are justifiably disinterested in btc
asciilifeform: if you organize anything in usa that even vaguely resembles an army from a distance, you've made the enemy
asciilifeform: (minus the acquittal, normally)
gribble: Hutaree - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutaree>; Judge acquits 7 Hutaree militia members accused of terrorist ...: <http://www.freep.com/article/20120327/NEWS06/120327048/Judge-dismisses-critical-charges-in-Hutaree-case>; hutaree - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/user/hutaree>
decimation: yeah the amusing thing about most of those types is that they seem to want to "own" their own own bunker or whatever, rather than the more obvious strategy of "recruit army, train"
asciilifeform: best hypothesis i know of - some folks want to 'die well' rather than live
asciilifeform: (why a fellow who could afford to mount some semblance of adequate preparation for lead standard would stay in usa, is a question for them - not me)
decimation: yeah it's interesting that the "lead standard" crowd seems to have not adopted bitcoin
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you're concerned about a collapse, the marginal utility of putting 10% of your << there is another possible observation here. quite a few of the folks who might otherwise take an interest in bitcoin are 'collapse pessimists' - i.e. believe in the 'lead standard.'
decimation: your kid comes out a 'tard - it's the doctor's faul
decimation: yeah ob/gyn is a known target for legal scammers in the us
mircea_popescu: guess the country.
mircea_popescu: "Roughly half the counties in our nation lack a single OB/GYN physician to care for women."
mircea_popescu: the guy does have one excellent point tho : if you're concerned about a collapse, the marginal utility of putting 10% of your assets into a hedge probably far exceeds the marginal utility of putting the other 90%
mircea_popescu: maybe he doesn't want to advertise it, or maybe he ran off with who knows what braindamage on the topic
decimation: I'm surprised he hasn't got on the bitcoin bandwagon, he seems to be a likely suspect
decimation: the author does agree with your earlier point about having 4% of your remaining assets: "Well, that's far from clear. The one thing one shouldn't do is assume the present system will persist until you're ready to retire, and invest your retirement savings entirely on the assumption nothing will change."
mircea_popescu: omfg the blue
decimation: I imagine the arguments in court over long-lived estate's fee tails would be amusing
assbot: Reading List: The Death of Money (Fourmilog: None Dare Call It Reason)
mircea_popescu: it was phased out mostly at the owner's request.
mircea_popescu: anyway, fee tail used to exist, as the practical consequence of alodial title
decimation: in Hawaii, there are six layers of bureaucracy from the state down to the county level, each of which is empowered to tell you what you can do with "your" land
decimation: plenty of people in the west think that they 'own' their land
decimation: it makes the situation plain as day: there is no allodial title outside the government
mircea_popescu: why's that so helpful ?
decimation: "In English law, a fee simple (or fee simple absolute) is an estate in land, a form of freehold ownership. It is the way that real estate is owned in common law countries, and is the highest ownership interest possible that can be had in real property. Allodial title is reserved to governments under a civil law structure"
assbot: Fee simple - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: mircea: re: "pretend-alodial" from your blog: the wikipedia is quite helpful on explaining the current situation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
decimation: in the same way that ascii's hunter finds that the deer walk up to him and lay down
decimation: there's no other conclusion than: white people in the west "want" to be invaded, crushed, and forgotten
mircea_popescu: "dude failed but that's ok, he worked hard". wtf just how rotten is that mental space.
mircea_popescu: "But that’s not his style. He rolls up his sleeves. He puts his theories into action. He drives himself as hard as anyone I know." gates now a "hard work" apologist ?
mircea_popescu: the benefit of diversity is quite plainly that anytihng that can be butchered should be butchered.
decimation: so therefore, open the third world's floodgates
decimation: right but they can sit and chat amicably for a few hours
mircea_popescu: and left the flap up
mircea_popescu: they have all these points of conflict all over the environment, such as who fucked the blonde escort last
mircea_popescu: yeah dude, some guy in a five star hotel is so very likely to butcher some other guy in a five star hotel.
decimation: "Another reason Sachs offers for the benefits of diversity is the rather common one that the more contact we have with other ethnic groups, the more we develop trust, forgetting his own previous observation that trust declines in diverse societies, but calling attention instead to some research about the amicable ways in which individuals from different ethnic groups, jet set businessmen and academics, interact with different ethnic
mircea_popescu: and nobody could have predicted that nobody wants crap in the middle of nowhere.
mircea_popescu: dude wants more taxes. that's the way!
mircea_popescu: All of the interventions involved – health, agriculture, infrastructure, education, and business seed money – make sense if carried out carefully, over time. But I am surprised by how little Sachs dug into country budgets, and that he didn’t work to convince governments to commit to additional taxation
mircea_popescu: Warren Buffett likes to say, “The rearview mirror is always clearer than the windshield.” Through that rearview mirror, we can see that the project never had an economic model that could sustain successes once the MVP dollars ran out.
mircea_popescu: Of course, Sachs knows that it’s critical to understand market dynamics; he’s one of the world’s smartest economists. But in the villages Munk profiled, Sachs seems to be wearing blinders.
asciilifeform: incidentally, this is the only kind of 'charity' that exists in u.s. - and that their 'export product' is similar, should surprise no one.
mircea_popescu: all this disavowing pretense of "helping them" and "world better place" bs.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long until these schmucks can earnestly admit "we like going to poor villages in africa because it is enjoyable to peruse in detail the troglodytism of lesser people"
mircea_popescu: But the MVP didn’t simultaneously invest in developing markets for these crops. According to Munk, “Pineapple couldn’t be exported after all, because the cost of transport was far too high. There was no market for ginger, apparently. And, despite some early interest from buyers in Japan, no one wanted banana flour.” The farmers grew the crops, but the buyers didn’t come.
mircea_popescu: So what went wrong? For one thing, the villages that Sachs picked experienced all kinds of problems – from drought to political unrest. For another, the MVP took an idealistic “Field of Dreams” approach. MVP leaders encouraged farmers to switch to a series of new crops that were in demand in richer countries, and experts on the ground did a good job of helping farmers to produce good crop yields by using fertilis
decimation: well, like any engineering project it depends on the design
decimation: they can't have a portable nuclear reactor because it would make the evrionmentalists batty
decimation: my point is that many americans and 'allies' died in Afghanistan and Iraq transporting fuel to bases
assbot: Project Iceworm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: they even put one in a snow fort in Greenland in the '50s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Iceworm
decimation: then use the energy to convert carbon via fischer-troph to synthetic fuel
mircea_popescu: decimation those aren't really something you'd want
decimation: So the US Dod in the past had a program to put a 2.5 mw generator on a truck and put it in a combat zone
assbot: Army Nuclear Power Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
asciilifeform: wine... cheese... bread... linen... steel engine << you can get them. just pay and pay.
mircea_popescu: the one exception is uruguay, where they're not. so if you manage to knock up a girl in buenos aires, you have to ship her across the river.
mircea_popescu: none of these'd be hard to do, legally.
mircea_popescu: yah, and they'll use your exchange
mircea_popescu: but it won't be free, because there's better way to extract value from the us consumer than taking 2 cents out of his 10 bux
decimation: surely the bezzleers on wall street want a place to play
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, do the math. if 100 mn us citizens spend 10 bux to buy from you over a year, out of the 0.2% you charge them you've made... 2mn
decimation: you would have to engage lawyers in 50 states and DC for sure
decimation: well, there's the issue of the usg taking 96% of your assets at a point of their choosing
mircea_popescu: it[s not that clearly profitable.
decimation: mircea I'm just amazed that there is clearly an opportunity to make a profitable exchange on US soil, yet it appears no one is trying
mircea_popescu: letters used to come with latin in a package for this reason
decimation: there's much truth to that
mircea_popescu: doesn't really matter anyway, a kid that's not bilingual is not literate anyway
decimation: mircea what portion of the youth in argentina speak english well enough to read trilema?
mircea_popescu: decimation nah, it's not that bad
decimation: it's interesting that this kind of wealth exists today in bitcoin yet no one is willing to spend it on bureaucracy
decimation: bloctoc: you might be right, but I suspect the "floor price" of buying into the entire us regulatory system is somewhere in the 10's of millions of dollars, perhaps low hundreds
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/flyers-12.jpg << this just in
bloctoc: if the answer is more than 0 they are double plus dicking around
decimation: because if the answer is 0, they are just dicking around