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BingoBoingo: To update
the binder hole count, Uruguay is a
two hole binder country
mircea_popescu: ie, not "all
things are files", but "the only way you can access
the disk is
through
this mangled malloc"
mircea_popescu: and
the deeper issue might be
that
there is in fact no os, just a maldesigned, half-impelemented,
thoroughly buggy process emulator shoehorned into describing a disk.
mircea_popescu: right. but
this wasn't because "nobody
thought of file names like, ever". it was fucking because "nobody CAN
think of file names, because
there's a deeper issue"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform previous run into
this was with
the "what's a file's name" ambiguity i axed into "fully specified paths inclued". but
that wasn't
the problem,
that was a random symptom of
the fact nobody ever
thought about files in unix.
a111: Logged on 2013-12-22 16:56 asciilifeform: 'what people “want” is a function of what
they learn is available. e.g., do Americans want
three-ring binders, and Europeans four-ring binders? or do
they want binders and
take whatever number of holes
they come with? or do
they want something
that can help
them organize
their papers and
take whatever is available? or do
they really want a less cluttered office and ease of storage and retrieval of
the infor
mircea_popescu: just because
they all point
to
the coconut shop dun mean coconut shop is either a club or a place you'd
take
the whores.
mircea_popescu: or rather,
the item all
the locals point
to when asked about bar/club/disco/where
the fuck do you
take
the whores ?!?!?
mircea_popescu: so
the situation may actually be
that no computer system currently deployed actually has a file system.
mircea_popescu: most
terrifying part being
that i can readily review history
to
the point where
this would very much have been exactly
the implicit assumption, because fuck
tape.
bvt: it seems
that 'c strings' in ada are still controlled by ada mechanisms, i.e.
they are ada strings (with bounds checking), just with null byte in
the end
mircea_popescu: s a file system AT ALL, and
the "all
things are files" is just a
thin wraper on a
turd sausage made out of "we have no data model beyond ram and our disk doesn't actually work".
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 19:15 asciilifeform: bvt: i find it mind-boggling
that
there is not a standard , portable , machine-wide locking mechanism. but apparently
this is so.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1863091 << at present i believe
the ~entire file model~ in unix might have been subtly broken since
the very beginning, and
that breakage has in
turn informed
the way people
think about
the fs/os interface so as
to not notice it. because it's as you see, a widening breach, what started with atomic creation moved on
to permissions, and in general... in a word, it's not directly evident unix ha
☝︎ bvt: i have my own painful experience with
them
mircea_popescu: bvt you asking for a primer on
the longstanding hatred of c strings here, or found on own ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 19:11 bvt: btw, now vpatch.adb does not require Interfaces.C/Int.C.Strings for anything,
they will go away in
the revised vpatch.
bvt: yes,
these lockfiles are just a big mess.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 19:10 bvt: should set everything up
till
the end of
the week. i didn't rent a rk; but already
tested pressing mp-wp locally.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Looking superficially at
the law for it, it seems like a way
to attract crowdfund stuff
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 18:44 BingoBoingo: In new interesting
to asciilifeform mod6 and other Pizarro folks, Uruguay is about
to roll out a new
type of corporate structure. Sociedad de Acción Simplificadas, going
to look into it and see if it is at all interesting.
bvt: ave1, can you expand on getting rid of string allocations? I see a way
to get rid of it for Mode, but not for
the Path argument. i can move its c-string from heap
to stack, but
that would be it. anyhow, i will revise
this aspect.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 03:01 mircea_popescu: bvt "Ada exposes no functions
that have 'exclusive open' semantics, so I imported C
bvt: btw, now vpatch.adb does not require Interfaces.C/Int.C.Strings for anything,
they will go away in
the revised vpatch.
☟︎ bvt: that's what I
think as well
BingoBoingo: bvt: I
think when he made
that comment he confused you with
the other promising newcomer
bvt: re naming: i agree
that it clashes with Ada naming convention. will rename
to
Temporary_File.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 01:53 phf: oh i guess i see why
that would be
tricky, because of
the specialization. i don't know enough ada yet
to know how
to fix
that... perhaps just renaming it
to
Temporary_File is sufficient
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 01:42 phf: bvt: your patch has "Binary files..." at
the very end of it. i assume it wasn't made with vdiff
bvt: should set everything up
till
the end of
the week. i didn't rent a rk; but already
tested pressing mp-wp locally.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Found out it is a
thing just now
through an invitation
to be fed breakfast at an event discussing
the
thing.
BingoBoingo: In new interesting
to asciilifeform mod6 and other Pizarro folks, Uruguay is about
to roll out a new
type of corporate structure. Sociedad de Acción Simplificadas, going
to look into it and see if it is at all interesting.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> re structure --
they're rolling out ipnoje-style cars,
that brick if
they dun get keepalive from server <<
These have been a
thing in
the US for a while with
the pay by week specialist dealer/lenders
mircea_popescu: it'll be
the lulz of all
time, once
THIS groupon goes
the way of
the other, and all
these
tards are left paying
the loans. will paraguay invade us
to extract reparatios for its scaqmmed citizenry ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform item entirely exists
to get idiots
to undertake private loans
to finance corp. which orc morons ALOS do.
mircea_popescu: kinda how xtianity was built,
too. mary magdalene bigger deal
than
the other mary whore.
mircea_popescu: this rarely works, but
the fact
that it works at all...
mircea_popescu: so
they get stuck in
traffic, and she
tries on her best 12yo moves, with
the eyelids and shit, and figures out how
to
tell him later she's got a 2yo in
tow, notwithstanding she's barely 20something.
mircea_popescu: and in
the orclands, its utility is 100% as a dating site, "hey girly [working for "corporation" aka call center, nursing batshit insane delusions as
to how you're a sorta hilary and anyone gives a shit about what yo ufished out of your belly button] : would you rather walk, or would you rather save and occasionally ask for a hot young boy who owns his own car
take a half hour look at you ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno it ever had any utility or any userbase in us. 100% "high5" item, "big in pakistan!" sorta
thing.
mircea_popescu: i don't know it has any other revenue
than
these orc donations.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as far as i know, item exists 100% as orcistan
theft, because
the local morons will pay
the usg corp a chunk of
their local income.
mircea_popescu: so no, nobody in right mind would ~advertise~
they're faggots.
mircea_popescu: this idea
that pantsuitism is well regarded abroad is a very narrowly in-group wank.
mircea_popescu: they don't use
the stickers here, people beat
them up.
mircea_popescu: here,
they just
take 20% of
their revenue and send it
to washington so washington can pretend like it's a place.
mircea_popescu: yuou hand
the man at
the wheel some bills and move on. how else ?
mircea_popescu: ie, usg undergoing exact same process argentina was, back when old whore still
thought she can be president whether i say ok or not.
mircea_popescu: also -- SOMEHOW -- uber doesn't have bingoboingo's problem. for
THEM it is a-ok
to
terrorist money all over
the world.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 23:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it meanwhile dawned on me. why
the fuck would wu even be part of
this conversation.
mircea_popescu: nah, whole fuckling point is
that cab services work well in orclands, and
the orcs pay
tax already.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's not just USG. All fiat wanna be sovereigns are inclined
to capturing
tax from undocumented
traditional activities.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform uber is rather "we'll produce an alt-frontend dating site for orclands, where
the morons will pay usg
to use it". very much mercantilism desperation on usg.blue part.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Gulag inmates have
to be cool in some way, however
trivial
to end up in gulag. Legal pot smokers face no such barrier
to entry.