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asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: laters.
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform, mp_en_viaje: thanks again for the patient help.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 19:12 stjohn_piano_2: people reeeeally try though. "machine learning" (rather than "statistical sampler with paremeter adjustment").
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: yes.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 19:06 stjohn_piano_2: although, i am surprised. i had thought "driver" was one category of subordinate where you could trust that the subordinate would do the work carefully, for his own sake.
stjohn_piano_2: http://edgecase.net/articles/using_a_transaction_to_validate_a_bitcoin_address
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: there's a potential down-side tho, of this method -- addr that has never transacted is shielded by the hash (i.e. the pubkey is not available to third party yet) as well as the ecc mechanism; one that has transacted , is only shielded by the latter
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 19:14 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1914042 << bitcoin addresses have a checksum built in, last coupla chars.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 18:44 stjohn_piano_2: well, in my initial half-understanding of bitcoin, was nervous about moving bitcoin into offline address without knowing (for certain) that i could retrieve it.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje had a piece re the futility.
asciilifeform: ( and iirc so can mp_en_viaje )
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: i'll be the very last to say 'how to monetize'. the subj is re the simple matter of with what to construct machine so that you can even ~have~ money, should you come up with from where to get.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-30 19:23 asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_1.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_2.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_3.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_4.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_5.jpg
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: consider a trip to e.g. romania . ☝︎
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: you will find interesting that it is possible to build computer to last 100+ yrs.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-12 03:29 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: not only that period. i have strong suspicion that 'capacitor plague' never trooly ended, or will
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: that 'future' is now.
asciilifeform: see also mp_en_viaje's formulation .
a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 22:59 asciilifeform: here we go : 1801 schematics ; 1801 manual vol.1 1801 manual vol.2 .
a111: Logged on 2015-03-07 00:01 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and deliberately pseudo-open architecture (runs linux, sure, but with massive closed blobs required even to boot. and vendor regularly pays media mouthpieces to lie about it; also posts astroturfed comments)
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: ftr 1 of the worst possible choices of iron for anyffin safety-critical ☝︎
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2 ^ is true. but slow. e.g. mp_en_viaje and asciilifeform baked a trng in '16; one might imagine erry single serious btc user would've bought. but guess what.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:18 mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/articles/conversation_programmer_licences << what's the weird here ? a) wrt to a buncha people calling themselves x piano ; b) wrt to hand-publishing what's eminently a chatlog, as such ? why not use a logger and only publish selected snippets that need notes and such ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: aint that an infamous crap artist ? i fughet
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: where was this
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: makes sense. i don't think i'm a good choice for advertising work.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: as you have also probably found already, it is quite difficult to manufacture ~anything~ 'cheap' in ameristan.
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, aite. i guess you're fated to thicken the rows of techs then.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: the rub is, 'konsoomer' dun particularly care to spray cutting oil and aluminum swarf all over himself
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: electronic engineering ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, so what did you go to school for ?
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: i have cnc mill (for metal, not only wood, albeit slow) right here, made from scavenged materials + 1970s 'sherline'. it's a weekend's work. i.e. pretty hard to make profit selling'em, china nao ships complete kits.
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: yes, exactly
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, so mechanical engineer for factory and then software engineer for sound recording thing ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: right, it's what he did with the bag of moola. immediately politruks appeared to 'help' him 'see light' etc
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: furniture factory: i studied all the components i was given and tried to make them work together: so, camera, computer, motion controller, servomotors, wiring etc.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: pg openly admitted it was 'yahoo'-powered peripheral scam.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: did, but wasn't what he was known for, was still trade seekrit. was known for 2 schoolbooks on commonlisp.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 18:04 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, if you think about it, not only common, but forced because necessary. the human condition in postmodernism, as "lost on a raft atop sea of nonsense" kinda forces the tribe's expendable labour (ie, young males) into the "quickly search through large portions of sea"
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, ok, but what did you do for them ? accounting ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: even did have, circa 2008 or so
asciilifeform: a. stjohn_piano_2 what have you done for pay ?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:51 stjohn_piano_2: i have unfortunately worked mostly in small businesses, making me something of a "learn this thing quickly well enough to get it to do X function".
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: in the future, you'll want to do exactly same manipulation, but in privmsg w/ deedbot .
stjohn_piano_2: asciiliform, mp_en_viaje: thanks for the help
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, say !!v 224B5AF74B3FDF7674566BBBC2C7AF0E46D68F6586E03C255C2631FD34BE60DD
stjohn_piano_2: UP stjohn_piano_2
stjohn_piano_2: gpg: encrypted with 4096-bit RSA key, ID 625FF273, created 2019-04-15 "stjohn_piano_2"
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: result:
stjohn_piano_2: !!up stjohn_piano_2
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: ok. round 2 i.e. new OTP?
stjohn_piano_2: $ gpg --decrypt encrypted_otp.asc
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: also plz paste the eggog output from attempt
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, do the voicing in here
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: hey, dun have to go far for this, e.g. asciilifeform earns bread these days by 'which 11 pages of microshit docs add up to the truth re $kernelknob' etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in the case of subkeyism, he oughta then see a diff b/w the dumps, as i understand
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:58 mp_en_viaje: did you yourself do that btw ?
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: re: maturity: good point.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: seems like your pgptron still doesn't have access to the corresponding priv ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 16:52 mircea_popescu: well, there's that old "as i became a man i put the things of childhood aside". "something else", you know ? not a girl, no, but who knows what terror ?!
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, in a sense, the issue here you'll now have to transition into maturity.
asciilifeform: this sorta underscores mp_en_viaje's point -- if you have automation in the loop, it had better work and actually save time
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: got anywhere re the puzzler of why key noworky?
deedbot: stjohn_piano_2 voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!up stjohn_piano_2
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: this sorta thing is almost universal afflication of young folx. i can see why you choked on ffa tho, it has literally no 'parts that can be safely skipped'
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: thanks for feedback, by the way.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:48 mp_en_viaje: so look, and i hope you don't take this the wrong way (a hope mostly fed by your claim to have read the logs) : you're a guy with an evident humanities / non-technical background trying to get something going, start a company, all that stuff. nothing wrong with that. you are however currently beset by two prongs of problem. one is that in your quest to do something, you often do things that are getting in your own way -- there's no benefit for you f
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: soviet-era typewritten + pencilled corrections, if yer curious
asciilifeform: possibly even worse ^ , btw, than mp_en_viaje's item
a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 22:59 asciilifeform: here we go : 1801 schematics ; 1801 manual vol.1 1801 manual vol.2 .
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: if you're a serious meat-ocr, asciilifeform has a tough cookie, http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909563 , would defo pay for quality hand-entry of it ☝︎☟︎
nicoleci: mp_en_viaje, that was a long one, five hours...
asciilifeform: was gonna say. stjohn_piano_2 take a look at his input, it's the ultimate, possibly, torture test for ocrtron, 18th c. manuscript.
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: i highly doubt that edgecase can compete with slave labour.
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, to continue that line, what'd http://bimbo.club/2019/05/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-jan-febr-and-march-1716-part-v/ cost if edgecase did it ?
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: at the risk of belabouring the obv., you gotta see to it that yer custom pgp wrapper actually has access to the priv that went with the pub you regged
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: i agree. no problem, i'm used to that reaction.
stjohn_piano_2 is reading http://edgecase.net/articles/basic_gpg_commands to try to use GPG the normal way to decrypt the otp.
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: yes
mp_en_viaje: why can't i select "Plaintext renditions of books, documents, and PDF files" off http://edgecase.net/pages/edgecase_services ? you against javascript also ?
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: my name is actually StJohn Piano. my brother's name is Nicholas Piano. the company is just me.
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: the name of the company
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, so why "If Edgecase cannot answer your question, Edgecase will probably be able to suggest some potential avenues of exploration." ? wtf is an edgecase then
asciilifeform: !!gettrust stjohn_piano_2
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:34 mp_en_viaje: if soemthing you should do can be accomplished in one hand motion, you'll do it a lot easier than if you have to first curtsy and then proceed. and a curtsy can be anything -- including having to remember the name of a script.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 16:55 asciilifeform: !!rate stjohn_piano_2 1 temp voice / new blood
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913653 ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: !!key stjohn_piano_2
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:28 mp_en_viaje: umm. why the fuck would anyone. then whine about rsi ? how about not waste your time doing machine works.
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: certainly. i'm not certain that i knew about xxd at the time.
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, so do you see something wrong with having an article about a script that does |xxd ?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:27 mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/articles/displaying_hex_bytes_for_manual_copying << is this exactly what i did in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913584 ?!
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'ma guess he's trying to 'airgap' but with no slave typists
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 15:54 mp_en_viaje: in other lulz, $ echo "ϰλιρουόμος ϰλιρουομία χλιρουομια" | xxd
mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/articles/displaying_hex_bytes_for_manual_copying << is this exactly what i did in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913584 ?! ☝︎☟︎
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: yes, I've learned a lot. also distribution of risk.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:20 mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/articles/checkpoint_8 << what;s this ?
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: didja notice that output of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913740 is a eggog ? ☝︎
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: In practice it seems so. Neither the reds nor the blues have a monopoly on the mud hut deindustrialists.