asciilifeform: 'we do first 1,000 phree'

asciilifeform: 'we do it cheaper!'

asciilifeform: and imho there's no particular reason there could not be 'market economy' in redditor disposal.

asciilifeform: cheap relatively to fueling the boat.

asciilifeform: and naturally you do it somewhere with cheap mains current ( the bauxiteries are helpfully situated there already )

asciilifeform: ( you still gotta dump the ash somewhere tho )

asciilifeform: the bauxite thing begins to look like a winner imho

asciilifeform: grind bones for fertilizer. iirc there was a thread.

asciilifeform: biodiesel is promising imho field.

asciilifeform: !#s noyade

asciilifeform: speaking of them barges

asciilifeform: precedent -- french did not even bother with bags

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if they simply float back, not much point in the boat, eh. may as well then stack'em as pyramid, like chingis khan

asciilifeform: it goes in the gut, where most of the gas generation.

asciilifeform: for outgas valve.

asciilifeform: ( mortician's needle )

asciilifeform: i suggest 'trocar'

asciilifeform: iirc.

asciilifeform: pop yes , but they float 2-3 wks in

asciilifeform: carcasses have annoying habit of sailing back to shore

asciilifeform: tho i suppose it depends where in the sea, from where

asciilifeform: did diesel cheapen while i slept

asciilifeform: betcha decomposition in bauxite processor ( bzzzt -- pfff ) costs fewer joules than transport to sea.

asciilifeform: at any rate i have nfi why the bag. brick, chain. feed the fishes.

asciilifeform: ( anyone seen old films of elephant carcass rotting in the sun ? eventually explodes, spectacularly )

asciilifeform: bag - prolly not

asciilifeform: bottle takes 2-3 atm

asciilifeform: needs relief valve.

asciilifeform: they'll outgas, pop

asciilifeform: ( orig item http://idlewords.com/2007/04/balloon_pirate_radio.htm )

asciilifeform: re radio thread, ancient l0gz gold , http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-18#1524348 ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( compressorless )

asciilifeform: in related lulz, http://oldschgarage.blogspot.com/2014/11/old-fram-fridge-project.html << same fram ! i had no idea that it was an adiabatic cycle thing ☟︎

asciilifeform not eaten said b00k yet

asciilifeform: i thought it sounded familiar , aha

asciilifeform: aa hm.

asciilifeform: coincidence ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'fram, ursul polar' -- the ancient ЗИЛ-like fridge in 'museum of communist konsoomer' is a 'fram' ☟︎

asciilifeform: the society of rotakus says ty

asciilifeform: oh hey hey hey lbj

asciilifeform: so possibly 'parking lot' would suffice.

asciilifeform: nao otoh you don't necessarily need all 160

asciilifeform: stationary gens have quite large radiator.

asciilifeform: on jacks, betcha will boil radiator.

asciilifeform: fan is good for parking lot

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i realized one potential headache re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733798 : normally when your merc is grunting out its 160kw, it is ~in motion~ , and air moves through radiator ☝︎

asciilifeform: ('ultrawideband' people demoed some quite impressive items, e.g. a 500 picowatt thing that was picked up 200km away, etc )

asciilifeform: *reach

asciilifeform: ( model it, say, as an ensemble of '9000' stations, where if any half dozen of which successfully read other end, you have a link )

asciilifeform: so imho it isn't necessarily the case that your station even has to give a shit re atmosphere.

asciilifeform: with sufficient lube^Hy code

asciilifeform: at any rate, i conjecture that if you smear the signal over entire sw band, day/night dun matter so much.

asciilifeform: ( supposing 2way item )

asciilifeform: on top of this station can see whether it gets answered or not.

asciilifeform: biggest q is 'where is the daylight in the path'

asciilifeform: try it with ordinary shortwave. dun pick up ~0.

asciilifeform: ( ground conducts )

asciilifeform: buried cable dun receive much.

asciilifeform: it is however moar complicated, there are mechanics of day/night ( various layers, which reflect different bands , appear and disappear with the daylight ) and season.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1733890 << somewhat counter-intuitively, best conditions are the times with ~most~ interference ( i.e. ionosphere propagation most favourable, so you get the rubbish from 10000km away ) ☝︎

asciilifeform brb

asciilifeform: 'we pretend to work, they pretend to pay us' ?

asciilifeform: ( the 'rtl' dongle sdr aficionados ~all use, started life as 'tv' )

asciilifeform: good many cellphones ship with 'digital tv' chipset which is exactly sdr

asciilifeform: fwiw there is already a wifi set in ~every isp-issued kit in usa. which is basically a sdr

asciilifeform: how often do they mandate something loudly and with fanfare.

asciilifeform: well naturally silently

asciilifeform: 'help us nail Terrorists'

asciilifeform: aha, i can easily see usg df iron being mandated in cabletv boxes or similar.

asciilifeform: triangulation nightmare.

asciilifeform: and different msec for each unit.

asciilifeform: wasn't meant to be 'kept in attics gathering dust', but simply low duty cycle - as in, e.g., 1ms per hour

asciilifeform: ( afaik same item, just diff carriages )

asciilifeform: they come in standard railroad size too

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they had one of those at 'banat fair' thing ! ( though it was plugged into mains )

asciilifeform: why suffer the loss on the crankshaft.

asciilifeform: can just as easily have linear coils on pistons

asciilifeform: other thing re 'hybrids' that asciilifeform never understood, is why to have a rotary engine at all !

asciilifeform: would go handily with the 13337 pirate sw set.

asciilifeform: metoo

asciilifeform: but theoretically even this, could be made detachable.

asciilifeform: not so heavy.

asciilifeform: this would be a spiffy thing, welders et al would buy.

asciilifeform: so no manipulations with wheels.

asciilifeform: ideally you'd have the rotor attached to the drive shaft; by default stator is disconnected. when you want to turn the auto into generator, you put the thing in neutral, undo the clutch, and put on gas (ideally has 'cruise control' throttle)

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it isn't so difficult for ignoramus to wreck an ordinary auto, either

asciilifeform: you get as much or little torque as you want, motors take pwm

asciilifeform: lolwat

asciilifeform: terrible imho way to generate current. but would work.

asciilifeform: ( not all room-sized and stationary. can get on truck bed. )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dynamometer. e.g. http://www.dynojet.com/products/dynamometers/Automotive-dynamometers.aspx

asciilifeform: and the motors scale down. but needs correct soft.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aka sov mining truck. and it works.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it is why it wasn't done. they literally cannot afford even one simple piece of correct soft.

asciilifeform: incl the porches etc

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this is tru of all plasticars

asciilifeform: actual hybrid (e.g. sov mining trucks) had motor-in-wheel.

asciilifeform: ( vs motor-per-wheel )

asciilifeform: the disgraceful thing is that they still have gearboxes

asciilifeform not tried